Wenger Out?

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

problem is it will never happen die hard fans will always show up to watch this team regardless. We have those who said they would to the bin bag protest, seem to bottle that (unless it was media shite). All booing does is effect the team nothing else. Even protests won't do much as long as the money is coming in they won't care if we make arses or ourselves chanting Wenger out repeatedly.

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sadly i think you are right.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

If Wenger was managing in Spain, Italy or Germany, I think he'd have been sacked by now.

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Possibly - but to suggest ANY other Club which is what the post is in reply to is different from cherry picking from the elite teams in the elite Leagues which is what I presume you are doing.

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Originally Posted by GB.

It doesn't prove your point at all - in fact it makes your point pointless as there is no criteria to support your 'point'.

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Most coaches don't have such long careers as Wenger and Fergie because two or three years of failure often results in the sack. If this were another club, he wouldn't have made it to 15+ years.

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Originally Posted by Joker

He doesn't mean it like that, what he's saying is that Wenger's a football man at the end of the day, not an accountant, so his obsession with the financial "bottom line" is unhealthy from a football point of view.

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I get that but as a manager his Job is to manage the team, and make sure all team affairs are looked after. IMO its the coach who should be motivating the team or what is he here for.

Look at the clubs in Europe all have Coach's same with rugby and Us sports. The way AW has managed the team imo has been fine the wayhe has coach them as been Awful and that's the difference.

He's a good manager but a poor coach.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Most coaches don't have such long careers as Wenger and Fergie because two or three years of failure often results in the sack. If this were another club, he wouldn't have made it to 15+ years.

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OK, name the Clubs in England that would have sacked him.

My list:

Manchester United
Chelsea

That is all.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

If Wenger was managing in Spain, Italy or Germany, I think he'd have been sacked by now.

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Because in Europe you have to be a good coach not manager thats the diffrence.

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Originally Posted by GB.

Possibly - but to suggest ANY other Club which is what the post is in reply to is different from cherry picking from the elite teams in the elite Leagues which is what I presume you are doing.

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I think any other team at our level would have sacked Wenger.
But the boards of most other clubs at our level judge success by trophy count, not bank balance.
With Wenger it's a maddening combination for me of being impressed with how year after year he's kept us up there (and I think some people underestimate how hard that is, how many other clubs have consistently? Only ManYoo and they have the best manager around), but we've failed to finish the job when trophies have been within reach.
I've always felt we're more likely to get worse post-Wenger than better, at times this season there didn't seem much to lose but right now I'm feeling good about the team again so I think we have something worth keeping. Another poor run and I'll change my mind again. It's been one of those seasons.

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Originally Posted by GB.

Possibly - but to suggest ANY other Club which is what the post is in reply to is different from cherry picking from the elite teams in the elite Leagues which is what I presume you are doing.

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I made it clear from the start that I was talking about the top elite clubs. Makes no sense comparing us to anything else.

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Originally Posted by GB.

OK, name the Clubs in England that would have sacked him.

My list:

Manchester United
Chelsea

That is all.

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What is it about top four your not getting here? I'm not talking about West Brom and Sunderland here. I'm talking about teams that are in the hunt for silverware every year or have realistic ambitions of winning silverware. Come on now, why you acting silly and tetchy for?

You can put Liverpool on that list as well.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

I made it clear from the start that I was talking about the top elite clubs. Makes no sense comparing us to anything else.

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You quoted my post where I was clearly responding to Joker.