Arsenal AGM 3rd June 2016 - Gazidis "Wenger is going nowhere"

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Originally Posted by Özim

So Wenger will be offered a new contract after another season where he hasn't delivered, he really does have a job whatever happens.

This guy has the easiest most stable job in football, no wonder he was scared to move to bigger clubs, he knew he wouldn't last a year and would never be guaranteed a job and big money for years on end anywhere else.

Shameful to be honest that the club dare to come out with sh*t like this after what was a very poor season where a team with few resources left us trailing in their wake, this after more than a decade of underperforming, but then with some of the fans we have who basically will accept anything it's no big surprise.

I'd say we probably have the some of the most delusional fans in football.

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I agree that he had and still has the most stable job in football. But the easiest? For the bulk of his career that has clearly not been the case. If anything he has had the most difficult of jobs in world football. The pressure in the lead up and follow up to the move had to be immense. And for that period he was incredibly effective. And we were lucky to have him and the legacy he has left us from that will benefit us for generations.

However, he has failed to make the transition to the current situation and is now holding this club back from the latent capability this Club has as a result of his body of work. For everybody's sake he should be out the door, preferably voluntarily but forced out if necessary. We know however that neither is going to happen so we are stuck in this purgatory until he goes.

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Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw

I agree that he had and still has the most stable job in football. But the easiest? For the bulk of his career that has clearly not been the case. If anything he has had the most difficult of jobs in world football. The pressure in the lead up and follow up to the move had to be immense. And for that period he was incredibly effective. And we were lucky to have him and the legacy he has left us from that will benefit us for generations.

However, he has failed to make the transition to the current situation and is now holding this club back from the latent capability this Club has as a result of his body of work. For everybody's sake he should be out the door, preferably voluntarily but forced out if necessary. We know however that neither is going to happen so we are stuck in this purgatory until he goes.

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I saw easiest because there's no pressure for him to deliver from his bosses, he has full control to do whatever he wants however he wants and compared to what most manager have to put up with that's easy.

But yes it's clear he won't be leaving and shockingly it looks like a new contract is in the offing and this there's no end to the nightmare in sight. People can say he's here till the end of his contract and there's nothing we can do, but for him to get another contract is just shameful really and just shows what the club think about what fans feel (some of them at least).

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Really? You're mislead by those headlines?

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Not personally, I tend to know before I read that the article headline will tend to at best only fleetingly reflect the subject matter of the article and what is said by the person concerned.

A nothing story when there's little else to talk about and says nothing new at all.-

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

To answer that last part, I’m looking a little beyond Wenger on this one. This one is more about the Board’s mentality. It's a worry.

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I think it's hard to ascertain what the boards attitude will be like post Wenger.

We know for definite that Gazidis has zero leverage over Wenger, we can but hope that as he will ultimately be responsible for hiring the new man that he will be able to hold him to account more.

But who knows, the attitude of the board has always stunk, this was the case before Wenger and it will be the case after him. Will Gazidis be more assertive like Dein or will he be every inch the Kroenke puppet. Time will tell.

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Originally Posted by Kano

A nothing story when there's little else to talk about and says nothing new at all.-

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Exactly

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Originally Posted by Özim

Based on the fans who go to matches, you saw at the end of the season their views, I wish the majority wanted him out, it doesn't seem that way however.

Fact is on the whole Arsenal fans live in fear, they're scared to lose their precious 4th place which in real football teams in pretty meaningless for a club like us in any way but the financial sense, because let's face it we'll never get anywhere in the CL.

It's embarrassing that people are so attached to being 4th, a non achievement.

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So fans who have gone to see the team play this season and who have endured a thoroughly miserable season, are deluded because they have tried to derive some joy in finishing above Spurs rather than choosing to wallow in more misery?.

Interesting

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Originally Posted by Kano

A nothing story when there's little else to talk about and says nothing new at all.-

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Pretty much this.

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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie

So fans who have gone to see the team play this season and who have endured a thoroughly miserable season, are deluded because they have tried to derive some joy in finishing above Spurs rather than choosing to wallow in more misery?.

Interesting

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No fans are deluded because they support Wenger.

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Originally Posted by Özim

No fans are deluded because they support Wenger.

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This is my point they don't necessarily, if you want to believe the people singing one arsene wenger in the stands is representative of the majority of arsenal fans you can believe that if you like.....but one i don't think they are, and two i think there is a difference between wanting him gone and wanting him sacked.

The thing to take away from that fixture is that we aren't a club whose fans want to protest, especially not during a game.

But i think if you talk to enough Arsenal fans and ask them if they think Wenger is doing a good job and he should be allowed to stay as long as he wants, no i don't think you will find that a majority view at all.

But you are also not in the majority of views, as you've expressed to me that you sometimes wonder if it would have been better if Wenger had never joined the club.....and you aren't going to find many Arsenal fans in accordance with that. And frankly i think that's more deluded than the unsubstantial charge you make against our fanbase.