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Thread: Arsenal AGM 3rd June 2016 - Gazidis "Wenger is going nowhere"

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    And in the same press conference you cite he made it abundantly clear that he hadn't made his mind up whether next season would be his last or not, and implied heavily it was dependent on results.

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    Is it depressing that Wenger is the only one who can decide his future? Yes of course but we've had this discussion before and you have already said you don't believe Wenger would want to stay beyond 2017 if the atmosphere at the Emirates is as bad as it was at times last season.
    To answer that last part, I’m looking a little beyond Wenger on this one. This one is more about the Board’s mentality. It's a worry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    And in the same press conference you cite he made it abundantly clear that he hadn't made his mind up whether next season would be his last or not, and implied heavily it was dependent on results.
    Again, this isn't about what Wenger will or won't do when that time comes. That's for another debate. It's an indication of where the Board think we are and how Wenger fits into their plans. The article is about the Board's perspective on Wenger. I'm not trying to gauge where Wenger's mindset is based on words from Gazidis where he doesn't mention any private conversations he's had with the manager. He's not offering any insight into what Wenger is thinking on this and that's not his purpose.

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    No but my point is the headline "Wenger going nowhere" implies that he will be here beyond the end of next season and that's why in my opinion it's misleading.

    The board saying anything other than "Wenger is our man" would just never happen.

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    Nah. This is football. See plenty of the same sort of headlines with a manager or Board declaring player A is staying at their club. Do you ever assume a new contract has been signed when such declarations are made? This language isn't new.

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    So Wenger will be offered a new contract after another season where he hasn't delivered, he really does have a job whatever happens.

    This guy has the easiest most stable job in football, no wonder he was scared to move to bigger clubs, he knew he wouldn't last a year and would never be guaranteed a job and big money for years on end anywhere else.

    Shameful to be honest that the club dare to come out with sh*t like this after what was a very poor season where a team with few resources left us trailing in their wake, this after more than a decade of underperforming, but then with some of the fans we have who basically will accept anything it's no big surprise.

    I'd say we probably have the some of the most delusional fans in football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Nah. This is football. See plenty of the same sort of headlines with a manager or Board declaring player A is staying at their club. Do you ever assume a new contract has been signed when such declarations are made? This language isn't new.
    Yeah and the headlines are equally misleading in these cases.

    It happens a lot with Arsenal, article headlines that are non attributable to anything said by the individual

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    I'd say we probably have the some of the most delusional fans in football.
    Based on what exactly?.

    The deference to Wenger is something that is held by a small minority. The vast majority I imagine want a new manager, the difference is the extent to which they are prepared to make their feelings known on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Yeah and the headlines are equally misleading in these cases.

    It happens a lot with Arsenal, article headlines that are non attributable to anything said by the individual
    Really? You're mislead by those headlines?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Based on what exactly?.

    The deference to Wenger is something that is held by a small minority. The vast majority I imagine want a new manager, the difference is the extent to which they are prepared to make their feelings known on this.
    Based on the fans who go to matches, you saw at the end of the season their views, I wish the majority wanted him out, it doesn't seem that way however.

    Fact is on the whole Arsenal fans live in fear, they're scared to lose their precious 4th place which in real football teams in pretty meaningless for a club like us in any way but the financial sense, because let's face it we'll never get anywhere in the CL.

    It's embarrassing that people are so attached to being 4th, a non achievement.

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