Maybe the original mistake was giving him the captaincy...
I have to say that Gallas' feelings look a bit more justified now.
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Maybe the original mistake was giving him the captaincy...
I have to say that Gallas' feelings look a bit more justified now.
Under Gallas' captaincy, we came the closest to winning the title since we last won it.
For all of his shenanigans after that Brum game, it was after the game and didnt cost us that match. Clichy and inept officiating did.
But the same problems we had that season is the same problems we have now.
We have made no improvements in the 3 years and in fact imo we are worse.
Wenger needs to go
hence i said a top notch one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
:rose: Arsenal captain curse strikes again
to be fair Gallas isn't the worst captain we've had......neither is he the grumpiest
gallas needed to be kicked out and thank god he was. he played for a team with a worse defence than ours so hes not shown any improvement and reason for us to regret it
Gallas did become a bit of a broken record but I always felt we needed more people with his attitude. Instead he was alienated because he wasn't a Wengerbot and had a voice of his own.
Having said that, his antics at the end of the Birmingham game (why the fuck is it always them, eh?) were very embarrassing and he dug his own grave from there on.
their is a fine line between a winning attitude and having an attitude which gallas certainly has. in a team full of cunts like chelsea he had other super cunts to supersede him. whether captain or not at arsenal he was one of the few senior players in the team, a rare chance to really show what a mature man he may have been. but he wasn't, he was just a knob in decline
not easy to do, when the team is full of overpaid youngsters who have won nothing to prove themselves except the pampering of a deluded manager. Henry's body language on the pitch in his last years is also testament to that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
henry was a moody twat even when the team were at the top, being the main man only let him dwell in it. he continued as usual at barca but wasn't indulged as he was in a winning team again.
if you are mature enough then you wont look for excuses from others to explain your own failings. it's not easy to have the pressure mostly on your shoulders but whether you can carry it or not is a mark of your character. we see gallas' loud and clear.
henry was never moody with his teammates in the invincible team -- why? because they were winners whether or not he was captain. At barcelona it was understandable that a player of his billing would get annoyed when he was being underused and being subtituted into matches with just minutes to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
and, gallas's record prior to joining us was almost impeccable (at chelsea he only took issue with mourihno thinking he could play him as fullback on a regular basis). I remember when we signed him it was deemed a major coup in almost all of football circles.
henry was very moody, it just was on show less because of other big personalties. at chelsea and france gallas looked great with makelele in front of him....then we all saw a big difference in both teams when he retired. he was a good player and is ok now but nothing more. people were quick to say we got the better end of the deal because they were so desperate to be rid of cole. most football fans are fickle idiots but you're not allowed to criticise fans. it only works one way.
Could you describe this moodiness of henry back then? And while we are at it, we could also say messi is good because he has xavi and iniesta behind him, after all he does not perform the same way for his country. I am sure that will sound ridiculous but that's also influenced by one's degree of subjectivity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
his posturing and arrogance. both elements that made him such an amazing player but also his faults, as is much the same with many of the game's greats. no real problem with that, it's just part and parcel of who he was, no one is perfect right?
if messi leaves or stays and the midfield behind him changes, then we can judge him every week and until then you're right, it is a ridiculous comparison.
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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
I am afraid you are the one making ridiculous comparisons and assertions. I was drawing a parallel between henry's frustrated and beleagured figure in his last few years with us in similar circumstances as gallas found himself.
You got this discussion to where it is now with questionably spurious lines of 'logic'. You are essentially hinging gallas's entire cv on makelele's presence in teams he's played in.
Dennis Bergkamp was perfect! :angry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
@budes
if that's how you read it fair enough it's not important enough to keep banging on about it
and so is messi :angry: considering the kicks the poor guy takes in a single match. If a small guy like that got kicked that much anywhere else outside football, the perpetrators would be in danger of charges of aggravated assault lolQuote:
Originally Posted by GB.
Messi is a pygmy cunt.
i don't know, to me, he is the greatest ambassador for the game today -- his talent and mercurial ability, combined with his honest but palpable earnestness and enthusiam for what he does makes him a joy to watch. He is special and evrything that every footballer should aspire to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by vpgreg
Thats probably your best post on here tbhQuote:
Originally Posted by vpgreg
In fact if you include all the posts on the old GW, its better than all of those as well
There may be hope for you yet
Im not as good as footballer as he and never will be but i believe i can dive, hold my face and roll around just as good as himQuote:
Originally Posted by budesonide
in fact he is one of the few players you cannot tar wuth that brush. He is one of the most honest players playing today -- that may not be saying much, but for what he does with the ball on the pitch it is a miracle he is not known mainly for the dark arts of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
Youre kidding, right?
Does it most games and ive always said hes everything that is wrong with football today and its a shame cos he is a talented player
Oops, think you made an error there. Messi, as we know, is a fucking horrible slimy piece if vermin shit filth cunt stain, but you mistakenly implied he was perfect.Quote:
Originally Posted by budesonide
He's not as bad as Biscuits, but I've seen Messi roll around feigning injury plenty. Maybe he gets tackled a lot and is angry about that, but he's still a cheating cunt.
Plenty is an anagram of pelanty if it had an 'a' in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by vpgreg
Thats the thing while he is bad for it he's not the worst at Barca so it get overlooked.Quote:
Originally Posted by vpgreg
If there's one player on their books who needs a kick in his skanky little cheating face it's Trani Alves.
Then Pusquets, the Prique, then Pusquests again. :good: