Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

its still a mindset of wanting the club to fail to start with. you complain that wenger only wants top four yet are happy to want the club to fail to start with to go for an "easier" competition. tad hypocritical no?

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No because it's his fault we think like this, with him in charge we have no "hope", that's what he's taken away from us. We're as predictable as they come, our season is like a pre-written script.

Top 4, out of the cups by February/March, last 16 of CL. That's our season.


Transfers are the same, 1 or 2 players of super super quality (which turn out to be a handful of average joe's most of the time) in the summer, nothing in January except once again we'll try and bringing in 1 player if we can find one etc etc.

Ollie: "baah, baah, baah, baah, baah, baah, baah."

This is exactly what I mean when I say Wenger has become a cult leader. His sheep like following have forsaken rationality and much prefer to spout deluded drivel with scant regard to how asinine it makes them sound - even in light of the glaring obvious.

I await to see after we this window closes and the tight wad penny pinches his way to once again assembling a squad he thinks is good enough to catapult us towards the coveted trophy, if he'll be offered any reprieve by even the staunchest of worshipping disciples.

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Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga

No because it's his fault we think like this, with him in charge we have no "hope", that's what he's taken away from us. We're as predictable as they come, our season is like a pre-written script.

Top 4, out of the cups by February/March, last 16 of CL. That's our season.


Transfers are the same, 1 or 2 players of super super quality (which turn out to be a handful of average joe's most of the time) in the summer, nothing in January except once again we'll try and bringing in 1 player if we can find one etc etc.

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you cant moan about the club being happy with top four, not showing ambition, not competing in the big compeitions and then want them to fail in champions league, drop into an "easier" competition and attempt to win that. thats not showing ambition, thats not competing, thats failing. your argument is so hpyocritical here

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

fourth is an acheviement, however for us, it should be the minimum achviement.

the europa league is fair enough what you said, however when one of our fans wants us to go into it because we have more of a chance of wnining instead of getting into last 16 of champions leauge, that too sends out wrong message.

using the teacher analogy, and im going to put it at the time of the quote about it being first trophy. if a kid, a few weeks before his exams, takes some mock exams and gets e's and is devestated because he feels he is a failure, you dont go up to him and shout YOU DIDNT GET AN A, YOU'RE A FUCKING FAILURE, you take him aside, and say if you can get a C from here, you should be really proud, work hard until then, get that C and thats an acheveiment.

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So Wenger has been achieving the bare minimum for almost 9 years now? That doesn't sound like a winner to me.

If the kid came to the school expecting top grades, regardless of how you try to whitewash it, he knows and you know that he's underachieved with those poor grades. It's not even a C grade we're talking here. Wenger is trying to set a new bench mark with this 4th place trophy shit when it's always been Gold, Silver, Bronze, or 1st, 2nd, 3rd is what gets you on the podium. This 4th place achievement talk is like a polished turd. Not matter how we try to dress it up, the players aren't satisfied and know it's bullshit.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

So Wenger has been achieving the bare minimum for almost 9 years now? That doesn't sound like a winner to me.

If the kid came to the school expecting top grades, regardless of how you try to whitewash it, he knows and you know that he's underachieved with those poor grades. It's not even a C grade we're talking here. Wenger is trying to set a new bench mark with this 4th place trophy shit when it's always been Gold, Silver, Bronze, or 1st, 2nd, 3rd is what gets you on the podium. This 4th place achievement talk is like a polished turd. Not matter how we try to dress it up, the players aren't satisfied and know it's bullshit.

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yes he has to an extent we should be in the champions league every season, that is our level. when you look at how much money others have thrown to get it and failed (mostly spurs. spurs :pal: ) and given the fact he has worked off a limited budget, its bordering of miraclous how he has done it for 8 years.

we should have won some cups along the way, he has made serious mistakes in those games, ive never denied that, however the board havnt helped him and while for a club like us, 4th is what we have to acheive as a minimum, i dont think he has been supported in helping get us to title challengers.

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

you cant moan about the club being happy with top four, not showing ambition, not competing in the big compeitions and then want them to fail in champions league, drop into an "easier" competition and attempt to win that. thats not showing ambition, thats not competing, thats failing. your argument is so hpyocritical here

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Yes, yes I can I can do what I like.

As I said he's the reason we do achieve anything and he's the reason the Europa League makes more sense to me. So there's no hypocrisy there, if he left my opinion would change.

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

yes he has to an extent we should be in the champions league every season, that is our level. when you look at how much money others have thrown to get it and failed (mostly spurs. spurs :pal: ) and given the fact he has worked off a limited budget, its bordering of miraclous how he has done it for 8 years.

we should have won some cups along the way, he has made serious mistakes in those games, ive never denied that, however the board havnt helped him and while for a club like us, 4th is what we have to acheive as a minimum, i dont think he has been supported in helping get us to title challengers.

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The board have nothing to do with the complacent mentality Wenger has installed in his players and can't tell him how to spend his money, e.g buy a top class striker for £20m, £150k wages, instead of buying two average strikers for £10m a piece. If he told them it's time to go for broke and really go for the title, I doubt they'd tell him to pipe down. The sad thing is, all this noise about going for silverware this year seems to be coming from Gazidis because he knows the fans are growing restless. Wenger should have set the bar higher ages if he felt like he was being short changed.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

The board have nothing to do with the complacent mentality Wenger has installed in his players and can't tell him how to spend his money, e.g buy a top class striker for £20m, £150k wages, instead of buying two average strikers for £10m a piece. If he told them it's time to go for broke and really go for the title, I doubt they'd tell him to pipe down. The sad thing is, all this noise about going for silverware this year seems to be coming from Gazidis because he knows the fans are growing restless. Wenger should have set the bar higher ages if he felt like he was being short changed.

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the board to have a part in this, if they have given wenger no money, then what is he supposed to do? and given recent interviews by arteta and jack saying they want to win adn telling the club to spend hardly helps the idea that he has installed a top four is greatest acheievement ever mentality in his players.

there is a lot of noise coming from gazidas not wenger, thats true, i hate that, gazadias should shut the fuck up really and do his talking with getting signings in. also gazidas says he wants world class players, whats stopping him telling wenger that he isnt in charge of prices, he has identified suarez as a target, leave it to me arsene ill go get him.

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

the board to have a part in this, if they have given wenger no money, then what is he supposed to do? and given recent interviews by arteta and jack saying they want to win adn telling the club to spend hardly helps the idea that he has installed a top four is greatest acheievement ever mentality in his players.

there is a lot of noise coming from gazidas not wenger, thats true, i hate that, gazadias should shut the fuck up really and do his talking with getting signings in. also gazidas says he wants world class players, whats stopping him telling wenger that he isnt in charge of prices, he has identified suarez as a target, leave it to me arsene ill go get him.

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Back to that point again, there was nothing stopping Wenger from signing a £20m - £25m striker last season on wages of up to £150k.