Van Persie the fraud

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Originally Posted by BoringBoringArsenal

Ok then. But the stadium isn't exactly being filled these, huh? It's obvious we're on a crash course should we continue down this path. Let's see how much longer we'll be finishing top four, and let's so how many more players of worth we're going to have to sell for profit.

Also, it would be interesting to see some credible figures on how our shirt sales have been trending over a few years now.

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You're preaching to the choir, fella, but you asked why he's still here - that's the answer.
There is a clear downward trend in terms of attendance but it's not half full. There's still enough money rolling in to justify the policy from a business point of view.

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Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga

The injuries weren't his fault to be fair and it was our choice to offer him new contract, I personally the motive was to stop us needing to buy anyone else (just as we do with the likes of Diaby, Rosicky etc).

In the end he got to 28/29 and was looking at his final contract, we basically told him we're 2% away from domination and have the best group of players and that transfers are always the answer and he realised there's no hope of anything changing and then decided to leave.

By staying he would basically be sacrificing his career to a club who have no ambition, that might be OK to some players but very few top players will want to settle for that only to look back at their career and think what could have been.

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I think you misunderstand me, Zimm. I think everyone can understand why he left, but its ridiculous to think in terms of the club 'letting RVP down' when the reality is that it did anything but.

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Originally Posted by Letters

You're preaching to the choir, fella, but you asked why he's still here - that's the answer.
There is a clear downward trend in terms of attendance but it's not half full. There's still enough money rolling in to justify the policy from a business point of view.

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Agreed - but for how long? What's beginning to really worry me is that the owners of the club know all about building for long - term business success in their own areas, but are just not doing so at Arsenal. Thus they are either incompetent, or they are only there to exploit the club short term.

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Originally Posted by BoringBoringArsenal

Ok then. But the stadium isn't exactly being filled these, huh? It's obvious we're on a crash course should we continue down this path. Let's see how much longer we'll be finishing top four, and let's so how many more players of worth we're going to have to sell for profit.

Also, it would be interesting to see some credible figures on how our shirt sales have been trending over a few years now.

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http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2012/...t-sale-charts/

people become fans because we're a big club. simple as that.

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Originally Posted by IBK

Agreed - but for how long? What's beginning to really worry me is that the owners of the club know all about building for long - term business success in their own areas, but are just not doing so at Arsenal. Thus they are either incompetent, or they are only there to exploit the club short term.

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I've said this before that our model, which has become too pronounced of late, is a lazy one, aimed at guaranteeing short term returns on whatever whoever the fuck invested.

I really despair for the Club's future if there isn't a shift in how from our current model.

If we were to win a couple of trophies, maybe even a league title in the next 2/3 seasons, would judas count face still have been vindicated in leaving a year or two early?


(And don't reply with what's the point, we won't win anything ever again in the history of the world, it's a hypothetical question)

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Originally Posted by Letters

You're preaching to the choir, fella, but you asked why he's still here - that's the answer.
There is a clear downward trend in terms of attendance but it's not half full. There's still enough money rolling in to justify the policy from a business point of view.

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A choir is seldom allowed to sing on it's own. It needs constant direction, and also, the preacher's job never becomes redundant for the simple fact that the flock must always be reminded of the 'word'. :lol:

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Originally Posted by BoringBoringArsenal

I've said this before that our model, which has become too pronounced of late, is a lazy one, aimed at guaranteeing short term returns whatever whoever the fuck invested.

I really despair for the Club's future if there isn't a shift in how from our current model.

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It certainly seems that way. With an economist for a manager and a billionaire for an owner - you would have thought that someone could see the link between football and commercial success - but instead we seem to be running on past reputation rather than buildign for the future. And the likes of Citeh and Chelsea are hardly standing still, either.

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

If we were to win a couple of trophies, maybe even a league title in the next 2/3 seasons, would judas count face still have been vindicated in leaving a year or two early?


(And don't reply with what's the point, we won't win anything ever again in the history of the world, it's a hypothetical question)

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'twould probably depend upon what Manure win in the same period.

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

If we were to win a couple of trophies, maybe even a league title in the next 2/3 seasons, would judas count face still have been vindicated in leaving a year or two early?


(And don't reply with what's the point, we won't win anything ever again in the history of the world, it's a hypothetical question)

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If we win the league or CL (:haha:) then we'll get one over him depending on what United do in that time.

Also, count face. :bow: