FUCK OFF NOW WENGER! YOU'RE A JOKE MAN.

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Originally Posted by Grebbo

People wanting Arsene to spend money ask yourself this:

Do you really want him to spend money when he has just spunked £50MILIION on this lot??

Podolski, Gervinho, Santos, Giroud, Merts

Three of them are decent enough players but wouldn't get into the top three's teams. The other two are absolute shite. This has been Wenger's transfer patern for the past few years.

Money is not the problem, the quality of player being bought is the problem.

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No I don't want him to spend any money I just want him gone really!

To me it doesn't matter who he buys he can't do the job anymore.

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Originally Posted by fakeyank

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...eve-Bould.html

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...enal-star.html

Nothing we didnt know.. the donkey (Wenger) has to leave asap! He is like a cancer to the club now.

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i fucking hate stewart robson. bitter little ****.

http://www.skysports.com/skysportsne...328434,00.html

Video of this Robson bloke.

Makes quite a few valid points regardless.

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

i fucking hate stewart robson. bitter little ****.

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He was a useless footballer too. Bloody awful.

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Originally Posted by gooners

"Lots of people have asked me whether Arsene Wenger should go," added Payton.

"He certainly needs to change and improve, spend the money he's got, strengthen the set-up around him and the results will be the judge."

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This really fucks me off!

It's the same thing that's been said for the last 4 or 5 years.

That's all we ever hear, at the end of every media article, story, meeting etc, its always the same 'he shouldn't be sacked yet, it's not time for him to leave yet'

Just when exactly is his time up?!?

When are they going to realise that wenger will not change anything!

It's just fucking retarded :mad:

Regardless of who Robson is, he is absolutely spot bollock on.

It's been theorised that wenger was in control of everything by plenty of people on here and recent events have gone some way to proving that theory.

The man is poisoning the team with his despotic ways.

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Originally Posted by NoeLDG

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He was a useless footballer too. Bloody awful.

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it is only because of his time at arsenal as a complete non entity that he is even given a chance to open his tired fucking mouth but he spends it laying into the club any chance he gets. ****.

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Originally Posted by Jeebus

Regardless of who Robson is, he is absolutely spot bollock on.

It's been theorised that wenger was in control of everything by plenty of people on here and recent events have gone some way to proving that theory.

The man is poisoning the team with his despotic ways.

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Look dude. Wenger has lost the plot, no doubt about it. He has lost the players, and he doesn't look like being able to turn it around. He's had enough chances, and he has remained stubborn, jaw-droppingly stupid and downright wrong for a while now. It's time to change it up.

BUT. the reason why twats like Robson, and all the other media whores should be defficated on from a great height, is that they are so blinkered, that they don't see that removing the manager is only 50% of solution.

There is no media voice hacking away at the owners of the club. Nobody. Not even that Payton geezer.

This club needs shaking up, top to bottom. Those laying the blame soley at Wengers feet, without also apportioning a large part of the blame on Kronke, Gazidis and the other stooges raking in the piles of cash, are fucking annoying, and fucking stupid.

AND, btw, though Wenger needs to be replaced, it should never be with disrespect toward a man who has done so much for us fans, and the club as a whole. He needs to go, but he certainly deserves to be applauded and lauded for all the work he has done for us. Not slagged off by fans who sound more like Stoke fans every day.

Root and branch change is needed. The gap between what we claim our ambitions to be and what we actually see on and off the pitch has become embarrassing. Words and semantics can no longer hide our shame. Wenger out.

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

it is only because of his time at arsenal as a complete non entity that he is even given a chance to open his tired fucking mouth but he spends it laying into the club any chance he gets. ****.

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More sounds like he's sticking it to Wenger than trying to lay into the club. Well, at least in the piece I just read ie.

I'm not surprised one bit though when folks who call out Wenger for the massive fuck up he is, are seen as attacking the club.

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Originally Posted by NoeLDG

Look dude. Wenger has lost the plot, no doubt about it. He has lost the players, and he doesn't look like being able to turn it around. He's had enough chances, and he has remained stubborn, jaw-droppingly stupid and downright wrong for a while now. It's time to change it up.

BUT. the reason why twats like Robson, and all the other media whores should be defficated on from a great height, is that they are so blinkered, that they don't see that removing the manager is only 50% of solution.

There is no media voice hacking away at the owners of the club. Nobody. Not even that Payton geezer.

This club needs shaking up, top to bottom. Those laying the blame soley at Wengers feet, without also apportioning a large part of the blame on Kronke, Gazidis and the other stooges raking in the piles of cash, are fucking annoying, and fucking stupid.

AND, btw, though Wenger needs to be replaced, it should never be with disrespect toward a man who has done so much for us fans, and the club as a whole. He needs to go, but he certainly deserves to be applauded and lauded for all the work he has done for us. Not slagged off by fans who sound more like Stoke fans every day.

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No-el, noel, no-el, noel :bow:

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Originally Posted by JoshGooner

I'm not surprised one bit though when folks who call out Wenger for the massive fuck up he is, are seen as attacking the club.

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exactly. i love wenger. i wish he would stay another ten years at least. he's amazing. and there are no problems at all.

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Originally Posted by NoeLDG

Look dude. Wenger has lost the plot, no doubt about it. He has lost the players, and he doesn't look like being able to turn it around. He's had enough chances, and he has remained stubborn, jaw-droppingly stupid and downright wrong for a while now. It's time to change it up.

BUT. the reason why twats like Robson, and all the other media whores should be defficated on from a great height, is that they are so blinkered, that they don't see that removing the manager is only 50% of solution.

There is no media voice hacking away at the owners of the club. Nobody. Not even that Payton geezer.

This club needs shaking up, top to bottom. Those laying the blame soley at Wengers feet, without also apportioning a large part of the blame on Kronke, Gazidis and the other stooges raking in the piles of cash, are fucking annoying, and fucking stupid.

AND, btw, though Wenger needs to be replaced, it should never be with disrespect toward a man who has done so much for us fans, and the club as a whole. He needs to go, but he certainly deserves to be applauded and lauded for all the work he has done for us. Not slagged off by fans who sound more like Stoke fans every day.

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Robsons a **** and a racist, but he does make sense.

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

exactly. i love wenger. i wish he would stay another ten years at least. he's amazing. and there are no problems at all.

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At least you're still in the majority. :lol:

for some reason my work has blocked paged 14 on this thread. ha ha i know.

so if anyone responded to me, stick it on the next page if you can.

cheers, thanx, bai.

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Originally Posted by NoeLDG

Look dude. Wenger has lost the plot, no doubt about it. He has lost the players, and he doesn't look like being able to turn it around. He's had enough chances, and he has remained stubborn, jaw-droppingly stupid and downright wrong for a while now. It's time to change it up.

BUT. the reason why twats like Robson, and all the other media whores should be defficated on from a great height, is that they are so blinkered, that they don't see that removing the manager is only 50% of solution.

There is no media voice hacking away at the owners of the club. Nobody. Not even that Payton geezer.

This club needs shaking up, top to bottom. Those laying the blame soley at Wengers feet, without also apportioning a large part of the blame on Kronke, Gazidis and the other stooges raking in the piles of cash, are fucking annoying, and fucking stupid.

AND, btw, though Wenger needs to be replaced, it should never be with disrespect toward a man who has done so much for us fans, and the club as a whole. He needs to go, but he certainly deserves to be applauded and lauded for all the work he has done for us. Not slagged off by fans who sound more like Stoke fans every day.

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So how do you gently ease out an octopus that has eight tentacles wrapped around every part of the club and does not have the decency to accept that he is doing the club more harm by staying than by leaving. Wenger is like a huge ship that has become stranded at a particular port because he refused to leave at the high tide. He is afraid now that the only place left for him if he leaves is the knackers yard., As they say "Those who make peaceful change impossible, make violent change inevitable" He should leave now and we will name the North stand after him, if he leaves us w/o even qualifying for the Europa cup, I will name my toilet after him.

BTW if you check the Poll in the Guardian. I am sure it is the opposition club fans who want him to stay. Bradford fans just love Vinger to bits right now.

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Originally Posted by NoeLDG

Look dude. Wenger has lost the plot, no doubt about it. He has lost the players, and he doesn't look like being able to turn it around. He's had enough chances, and he has remained stubborn, jaw-droppingly stupid and downright wrong for a while now. It's time to change it up.

BUT. the reason why twats like Robson, and all the other media whores should be defficated on from a great height, is that they are so blinkered, that they don't see that removing the manager is only 50% of solution.

There is no media voice hacking away at the owners of the club. Nobody. Not even that Payton geezer.

This club needs shaking up, top to bottom. Those laying the blame soley at Wengers feet, without also apportioning a large part of the blame on Kronke, Gazidis and the other stooges raking in the piles of cash, are fucking annoying, and fucking stupid.

AND, btw, though Wenger needs to be replaced, it should never be with disrespect toward a man who has done so much for us fans, and the club as a whole. He needs to go, but he certainly deserves to be applauded and lauded for all the work he has done for us. Not slagged off by fans who sound more like Stoke fans every day.

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Doesn't matter who is on the board, they will only ever be interested in money.

Wenger is the man in charge of what happens on the pitch and its not good enough. It's time for him to be replaced, end of.

But thanks for calling me a fucking annoying, fucking stupid, stoke fan. I'm sure it was completely warranted :good:

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Originally Posted by Jeebus

Doesn't matter who is on the board, they will only ever be interested in money.

Wenger is the man in charge of what happens on the pitch and its not good enough. It's time for him to be replaced, end of.

But thanks for calling me a fucking annoying, fucking stupid, stoke fan. I'm sure it was completely warranted :good:

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Dont let it get you down man. For the AKB`s asking Wenger to leave now is like having their wisdom teeth removed without anaesthetic. For them its Ok to call the Queen names but plese dont insult Mr Wenger. Like I said above Stoke fans et al....They WANT Wenger to stay. Those who love this club, rather than love Wenger KNOW its time for him to leave, gracefully or not.

Come on guys, lets not let the club bring us down and turn on each other. We are all gooners and we all want the same thing. All this fighting its just not worth it, not when nobody at the club gives a feck about us.

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Originally Posted by Globalgunner

Dont let it get you down man. For the AKB`s asking Wenger to leave now is like having their wisdom teeth removed without anaesthetic. For them its Ok to call the Queen names but plese dont insult Mr Wenger. Like I said above Stoke fans et al....They WANT Wenger to stay. Those who love this club, rather than love Wenger KNOW its time for him to leave, gracefully or not.

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:hug:

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Originally Posted by GB.

What a ghay post.

Really really ghay.

Edit: sorry, my bad, we are hugging now.

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Yeah i know, So is worshipping a 62 year old man whose clearly lost his marbles.

oh no. who's worshiping now?

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Originally Posted by Globalgunner

Yeah i know, So is worshipping a 62 year old man whose clearly lost his marbles.

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No.

Almost everyone here worships the Club.

Those who reduce opinions to AKBs or the opposite are ghay ghay ghay.

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

oh no. who's worshiping now?

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Quo Vadim?

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Originally Posted by GB.

No.

Almost everyone here worships the Club.

Those who reduce opinions to AKBs or the opposite are ghay ghay ghay.

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Spoken like a true 15 yr old. Its said that those who worry about gays are more likely gay themselves

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Originally Posted by Globalgunner

Yeah i know, So is worshipping a 62 year old man whose clearly lost his marbles.

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Yeah but what has that got to do with Wenger, he's 63.

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Originally Posted by Globalgunner

Quo Vadim?

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is that latin for gay? i don't geddit.

In other news. Guardiola says Arsenal are his 1st choice. Make it so......
Wenger:rose:

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Originally Posted by NoeLDG

Look dude. Wenger has lost the plot, no doubt about it. He has lost the players, and he doesn't look like being able to turn it around. He's had enough chances, and he has remained stubborn, jaw-droppingly stupid and downright wrong for a while now. It's time to change it up.

BUT. the reason why twats like Robson, and all the other media whores should be defficated on from a great height, is that they are so blinkered, that they don't see that removing the manager is only 50% of solution.

There is no media voice hacking away at the owners of the club. Nobody. Not even that Payton geezer.

This club needs shaking up, top to bottom. Those laying the blame soley at Wengers feet, without also apportioning a large part of the blame on Kronke, Gazidis and the other stooges raking in the piles of cash, are fucking annoying, and fucking stupid.

AND, btw, though Wenger needs to be replaced, it should never be with disrespect toward a man who has done so much for us fans, and the club as a whole. He needs to go, but he certainly deserves to be applauded and lauded for all the work he has done for us. Not slagged off by fans who sound more like Stoke fans every day.

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The media has been backing Wenger for a long time and this is the only time pundits have really dug into him and put him at fault for what’s happening on the pitch. Before, they placed a lot of blame on the Board saying he needs help and more resources. But when you lose to Bradford, Norwich and Swansea, it’s very hard to push that sort of story because those are teams on way smaller budgets but still out fox us. We could play Bradford at home next week and we’d probably still struggle. Swansea and Norwich were hard games for us last season and they’ve done us over this year.

The leadership at the top is an issue but it’s unlikely we’ll see a major change in that area unless we bring in Usamov and we change the very core of the clubs traditions. Most people are against such a model and blast Chelsea and Man City for the way they are run but that’s the only real alternative. We’ll never be able to outspend them so we’ll need a coach that is smarter and is able to out fox the wealthy clubs with good tactics and smart purchases. We’re just not getting that from Wenger. That’s why it’s time for him to move on. He hasn’t got the tools to deal with the task ahead of him. It’s looking real hopeless with him in charge and he can’t be trusted to build a new squad because this current lot is what he’s bought. He looks incapable of getting them to play together and if he can’t see that Gervinho isn’t a striker, Ramsey isn’t a winger and Podoski can’t play on the left wing for us, then throwing money at the situation won’t make a blind bit of difference.

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Originally Posted by Jeebus

Doesn't matter who is on the board, they will only ever be interested in money.

Wenger is the man in charge of what happens on the pitch and its not good enough. It's time for him to be replaced, end of.

But thanks for calling me a fucking annoying, fucking stupid, stoke fan. I'm sure it was completely warranted :good:

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:lol:

Chill out tinkerbell.

I wasn't calling you that :lol:

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

The media has been backing Wenger for a long time and this is the only time pundits have really dug into him and put him at fault for what’s happening on the pitch. Before, they placed a lot of blame on the Board saying he needs help and more resources. But when you lose to Bradford, Norwich and Swansea, it’s very hard to push that sort of story because those are teams on way smaller budgets but still out fox us. We could play Bradford at home next week and we’d probably still struggle. Swansea and Norwich were hard games for us last season and they’ve done us over this year.

The leadership at the top is an issue but it’s unlikely we’ll see a major change in that area unless we bring in Usamov and we change the very core of the clubs traditions. Most people are against such a model and blast Chelsea and Man City for the way they are run but that’s the only real alternative. We’ll never be able to outspend them so we’ll need a coach that is smarter and is able to out fox the wealthy clubs with good tactics and smart purchases. We’re just not getting that from Wenger. That’s why it’s time for him to move on. He hasn’t got the tools to deal with the task ahead of him. It’s looking real hopeless with him in charge and he can’t be trusted to build a new squad because this current lot is what he’s bought. He looks incapable of getting them to play together and if he can’t see that Gervinho isn’t a striker, Ramsey isn’t a winger and Podoski can’t play on the left wing for us, then throwing money at the situation won’t make a blind bit of difference.

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I know we won't see change at the top. That's not my point. My point was directed towards the media, and the fact that they don't ever highlight those very important issues. Even though Wenger is in charge of the football, and rightly should be moved on, he is not the only problem.

I just don't like seeing the board getting a free ride, whilst a man (who is clearly past his sell by date) gets all the flack from media and fans alike.

I know Wenger is infuriating. I know he's fucked it all up. And I know it's time to part company. I just think we a) could afford him a bit more respect in the way in which we "sack the ****" and b) not lose sight of the fact that it all stinks. Not just him.

He's not an Arsenal man LDG. Lost that respect the day he sold Van Persie to Man Utd. And if his employers were putting a gun to his head, walk. He can expose everyone and not stand by while our club is sinking. He has to have some pride and walk. If Gazidis and Kroenke are ****s, so is Arsene. I don't feel good about saying that but that's the way it is. He likes the silly money more than Arsenal.

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Originally Posted by Synti Claus

He's not an Arsenal man LDG. Lost that respect the day he sold Van Persie to Man Utd. And if his employers were putting a gun to his head, walk. He can expose everyone and not stand by while our club is sinking. He has to have some pride and walk. If Gazidis and Kroenke are ****s, so is Arsene. I don't feel good about saying that but that's the way it is. He likes the silly money more than Arsenal.

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not sure i completely agree but whether that is true or not, he has left himself open to those sort of accusations with some of his actions over the past few seasons. very sad.

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

not sure i completely agree but whether that is true or not, he has left himself open to those sort of accusations with some of his actions over the past few seasons. very sad.

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Yep.

You gotta feel a bit for Wenger, well I do anyway, because the team he'd built just a couple of seasons ago that went toe to toe with Barca looked like it was almost ready to do something big. You had Fab, Nasri, RVP, an on form Arshavin and wonder kid Wilshere on the scene. Those were exciting times IMO.

Obviously what has happened since has been a catastrophe and in such a short space of time.

If Wenger had walked after they were sold we'd all give the new manager a couple or three seasons to rebuild. We're not giving Wenger that same patience as he's been around for so long and we're tired of him. But he is building from scratch.

I don't think he's the right man for the job as I think all managers have a shelf life. But he has had a very good team, that he built, completely gutted.

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Originally Posted by NoeLDG

I know we won't see change at the top. That's not my point. My point was directed towards the media, and the fact that they don't ever highlight those very important issues. Even though Wenger is in charge of the football, and rightly should be moved on, he is not the only problem.

I just don't like seeing the board getting a free ride, whilst a man (who is clearly past his sell by date) gets all the flack from media and fans alike.

I know Wenger is infuriating. I know he's fucked it all up. And I know it's time to part company. I just think we a) could afford him a bit more respect in the way in which we "sack the ****" and b) not lose sight of the fact that it all stinks. Not just him.

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The media have protected him for years and have always speculated about how much money he has to spend and if he's getting the proper support. He's been sheilded from much of the blame because of his legacy. But he stands up for the Board when the media take shots at the way we're run. He redicules them for it.

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Originally Posted by Grebbo

You gotta feel a bit for Wenger, well I do anyway, because the team he'd built just a couple of seasons ago that went toe to toe with Barca looked like it was almost ready to do something big. You had Fab, Nasri, RVP, an on form Arshavin and wonder kid Wilshere on the scene. Those were exciting times IMO.

Obviously what has happened since has been a catastrophe and in such a short space of time.

If Wenger had walked after they were sold we'd all give the new manager a couple or three seasons to rebuild. We're not giving Wenger that same patience as he's been around for so long and we're tired of him. But he is building from scratch.

I don't think he's the right man for the job as I think all managers have a shelf life. But he has had a very good team, that he built, completely gutted.

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Still a team full of bottlers back then, but they actually got far enough in things to bottle it. Arsene's teams post 05 were all full of bottlers and I think alot of that comes down to his management.

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Originally Posted by Grebbo

You gotta feel a bit for Wenger, well I do anyway, because the team he'd built just a couple of seasons ago that went toe to toe with Barca looked like it was almost ready to do something big. You had Fab, Nasri, RVP, an on form Arshavin and wonder kid Wilshere on the scene. Those were exciting times IMO.

Obviously what has happened since has been a catastrophe and in such a short space of time.

If Wenger had walked after they were sold we'd all give the new manager a couple or three seasons to rebuild. We're not giving Wenger that same patience as he's been around for so long and we're tired of him. But he is building from scratch.

I don't think he's the right man for the job as I think all managers have a shelf life. But he has had a very good team, that he built, completely gutted.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

The media have protected him for years and have always speculated about how much money he has to spend and if he's getting the proper support. He's been sheilded from much of the blame because of his legacy. But he stands up for the Board when the media take shots at the way we're run. He redicules them for it.

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I still see articles saying there will be a much longer trophy drought if arsene goes and that fans should keep faith in him, personally I just think the people writing this crap are just fans of other clubs and are enjoying watching us suffer.