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Thread: FUCK OFF NOW WENGER! YOU'RE A JOKE MAN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    Doesn't matter who is on the board, they will only ever be interested in money.

    Wenger is the man in charge of what happens on the pitch and its not good enough. It's time for him to be replaced, end of.

    But thanks for calling me a fucking annoying, fucking stupid, stoke fan. I'm sure it was completely warranted


    Chill out tinkerbell.

    I wasn't calling you that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    The media has been backing Wenger for a long time and this is the only time pundits have really dug into him and put him at fault for what’s happening on the pitch. Before, they placed a lot of blame on the Board saying he needs help and more resources. But when you lose to Bradford, Norwich and Swansea, it’s very hard to push that sort of story because those are teams on way smaller budgets but still out fox us. We could play Bradford at home next week and we’d probably still struggle. Swansea and Norwich were hard games for us last season and they’ve done us over this year.

    The leadership at the top is an issue but it’s unlikely we’ll see a major change in that area unless we bring in Usamov and we change the very core of the clubs traditions. Most people are against such a model and blast Chelsea and Man City for the way they are run but that’s the only real alternative. We’ll never be able to outspend them so we’ll need a coach that is smarter and is able to out fox the wealthy clubs with good tactics and smart purchases. We’re just not getting that from Wenger. That’s why it’s time for him to move on. He hasn’t got the tools to deal with the task ahead of him. It’s looking real hopeless with him in charge and he can’t be trusted to build a new squad because this current lot is what he’s bought. He looks incapable of getting them to play together and if he can’t see that Gervinho isn’t a striker, Ramsey isn’t a winger and Podoski can’t play on the left wing for us, then throwing money at the situation won’t make a blind bit of difference.
    I know we won't see change at the top. That's not my point. My point was directed towards the media, and the fact that they don't ever highlight those very important issues. Even though Wenger is in charge of the football, and rightly should be moved on, he is not the only problem.

    I just don't like seeing the board getting a free ride, whilst a man (who is clearly past his sell by date) gets all the flack from media and fans alike.

    I know Wenger is infuriating. I know he's fucked it all up. And I know it's time to part company. I just think we a) could afford him a bit more respect in the way in which we "sack the ****" and b) not lose sight of the fact that it all stinks. Not just him.
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    He's not an Arsenal man LDG. Lost that respect the day he sold Van Persie to Man Utd. And if his employers were putting a gun to his head, walk. He can expose everyone and not stand by while our club is sinking. He has to have some pride and walk. If Gazidis and Kroenke are ****s, so is Arsene. I don't feel good about saying that but that's the way it is. He likes the silly money more than Arsenal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synti Claus View Post
    He's not an Arsenal man LDG. Lost that respect the day he sold Van Persie to Man Utd. And if his employers were putting a gun to his head, walk. He can expose everyone and not stand by while our club is sinking. He has to have some pride and walk. If Gazidis and Kroenke are ****s, so is Arsene. I don't feel good about saying that but that's the way it is. He likes the silly money more than Arsenal.
    not sure i completely agree but whether that is true or not, he has left himself open to those sort of accusations with some of his actions over the past few seasons. very sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz View Post
    not sure i completely agree but whether that is true or not, he has left himself open to those sort of accusations with some of his actions over the past few seasons. very sad.
    Yep.
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    You gotta feel a bit for Wenger, well I do anyway, because the team he'd built just a couple of seasons ago that went toe to toe with Barca looked like it was almost ready to do something big. You had Fab, Nasri, RVP, an on form Arshavin and wonder kid Wilshere on the scene. Those were exciting times IMO.

    Obviously what has happened since has been a catastrophe and in such a short space of time.

    If Wenger had walked after they were sold we'd all give the new manager a couple or three seasons to rebuild. We're not giving Wenger that same patience as he's been around for so long and we're tired of him. But he is building from scratch.

    I don't think he's the right man for the job as I think all managers have a shelf life. But he has had a very good team, that he built, completely gutted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoeLDG View Post
    I know we won't see change at the top. That's not my point. My point was directed towards the media, and the fact that they don't ever highlight those very important issues. Even though Wenger is in charge of the football, and rightly should be moved on, he is not the only problem.

    I just don't like seeing the board getting a free ride, whilst a man (who is clearly past his sell by date) gets all the flack from media and fans alike.

    I know Wenger is infuriating. I know he's fucked it all up. And I know it's time to part company. I just think we a) could afford him a bit more respect in the way in which we "sack the ****" and b) not lose sight of the fact that it all stinks. Not just him.
    The media have protected him for years and have always speculated about how much money he has to spend and if he's getting the proper support. He's been sheilded from much of the blame because of his legacy. But he stands up for the Board when the media take shots at the way we're run. He redicules them for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grebbo View Post
    You gotta feel a bit for Wenger, well I do anyway, because the team he'd built just a couple of seasons ago that went toe to toe with Barca looked like it was almost ready to do something big. You had Fab, Nasri, RVP, an on form Arshavin and wonder kid Wilshere on the scene. Those were exciting times IMO.

    Obviously what has happened since has been a catastrophe and in such a short space of time.

    If Wenger had walked after they were sold we'd all give the new manager a couple or three seasons to rebuild. We're not giving Wenger that same patience as he's been around for so long and we're tired of him. But he is building from scratch.

    I don't think he's the right man for the job as I think all managers have a shelf life. But he has had a very good team, that he built, completely gutted.
    Still a team full of bottlers back then, but they actually got far enough in things to bottle it. Arsene's teams post 05 were all full of bottlers and I think alot of that comes down to his management.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grebbo View Post
    You gotta feel a bit for Wenger, well I do anyway, because the team he'd built just a couple of seasons ago that went toe to toe with Barca looked like it was almost ready to do something big. You had Fab, Nasri, RVP, an on form Arshavin and wonder kid Wilshere on the scene. Those were exciting times IMO.

    Obviously what has happened since has been a catastrophe and in such a short space of time.

    If Wenger had walked after they were sold we'd all give the new manager a couple or three seasons to rebuild. We're not giving Wenger that same patience as he's been around for so long and we're tired of him. But he is building from scratch.

    I don't think he's the right man for the job as I think all managers have a shelf life. But he has had a very good team, that he built, completely gutted.
    "I really like Arsenal. Do you really like Arsenal, or only Arsenal with trophies?" - Dennis Bergkamp.
    "Which Arsenal do they want back, the one Arsene created?" - Tony Adams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    The media have protected him for years and have always speculated about how much money he has to spend and if he's getting the proper support. He's been sheilded from much of the blame because of his legacy. But he stands up for the Board when the media take shots at the way we're run. He redicules them for it.
    I still see articles saying there will be a much longer trophy drought if arsene goes and that fans should keep faith in him, personally I just think the people writing this crap are just fans of other clubs and are enjoying watching us suffer.

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