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However one of the main problems we have with Wenger is that the football is terrible to watch, and i don't see any reason to replace him with someone who gets his teams playing even more turgid football than we do. I have no doubt he is a good tactician and a good motivator, but the football is awful.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
We missed the trick by not bringing in Klopp, i think we want someone as similar as possible to him.
My thoughts too. We need the culture at the club to change, we need someone who is pragmatic, who values the results of the team and winning above everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
This is not to say we need someone like Mourinho who is a complete c*nt, but we do need someone who is a lot more pragmatic and less principled than Wenger.
I think whoever we hire will not be given the same freedom or time as Wenger so they will and should be judged on a "results" only basis.
I can't believe we let Liverpool get Klopp. Conte seems decent too. But I wouldn't mind Simeone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
I think Wenger will probably go upstairs when he calls it a day as manager. Someone of his experience and knowledge of the club will be let go easily by the board. Its common knowledge that the board lack football men and i think they will hire him as a director of football.
Good grief no! It would be totally hypercritical of Wenger to accept such a role. He's been against such roles in the past and wouldn't accept the same working conditions for himself.
dont get me wrong i want him gona full stop but i get the feeling that the board rely on him too much to ab able to get rid of him after 20 odd years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
That would be my worst fear. He'd be a nightmare. Contract talks and transfers would drag on for ages.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFC Leveller
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...e-Souness.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Ernesto
I think he has a point. Especially that last part.Quote:
"It amazes me that you never hear of his former players criticising him [Wenger].
"It's impossible to be a manager and not fall out with players, for the simple reason that they are young men with enormous egos. Maybe his players don't have a bad word to say about him because he never falls out with them.
"If you can sit on the bench, as manager of Arsenal, and allow Danny Welbeck to be as positionally indisicplined as he was on Wednesday [against Monaco], you either don't see it or you are not prepared to stand up and shout: 'Get out here'."
Well a broken clock is right twice a day and using that same logic, over a long enough timescale Souness must say enough things that one of them will make sense.
Although going to add a massive caveat, although i agree with Souness and there is plenty of evidence to suggest that Wenger is totally non-confrontational with his players....1) there are players who have played under Wenger who aren't exactly flattering about him like Gervinho (although in his case that was to do with Wenger's mystifying lack of faith in him :lol:) 2) To date i am unaware of any players who have played under Mourinho going public about having fallen out with him, in fact a lot of players are very complimentary of the little sociopath and we know that he has no such qualms about giving stick to his under performing players
So basically whilst i agree with Souness' conclusion, i think the logic he has based his conclusion on is something of a fallacy.
Mourinho has fallen out with plenty of players and some have gone public.
I don't recall many players falling out with Wenger but I recall Dennis saying they'd argue a lot about the amount of games played when he was edging to retirement. Wenger would produce stats all the time about the amount of ground he covered to show he was slowing down and that would drive Bergkamp mental. He'd reply back by asking if the stats show the key passes he made during the game.