Kroenke really is the archetypal scumbag. Here's how he's enjoying one of his ranches that his stake in Arsenal has helped underwrite. Not one for tradition, is he?
http://www.dallasnews.com/business/r...s-get-property
Printable View
Kroenke really is the archetypal scumbag. Here's how he's enjoying one of his ranches that his stake in Arsenal has helped underwrite. Not one for tradition, is he?
http://www.dallasnews.com/business/r...s-get-property
that season, and the season after were probably Wenger's greatest managerial performances post the stadium move.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
For me though, it was 5-1 at Anfield and 6-0 at Chelsea. I lost a lot of faith in him after those two matches. THey went on to win the FA Cup that season, but no big side should be losing like that in a season. To have it happen twice over the span of a month was incredible, especially since we went into Anfield leading the premier league that day.
Hopefully about 2 people turn up, the guy is odd, it's clearly not working with Wenger in charge and yet he's adamant he should stay, for what though to go out of the CL in the last 16 again and qualify for the CL and rinse and repeat.
Does he enjoy being us being humbled by every top side when it matters and does he think the football we play is good to watch? Does he enjoy every summer when we do nothing and then scramble around for anyone we can get?
Very strange, the Wenger support is almost like a bit of a cult.
I'm going on a march cos I want Britain to be back British.
Let's hope he hands out the Kool-Aid when his dear leader departs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
We have been fed the thin gruel of be careful what you wish for for years, we have to be frightened of dispensing with a man of 67 who is too old and too stubborn to change his ways. Some people have enjoyed that diet
See you there! :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Na-na-na-na, Na-na-na-na. Na-na-na-na, Na-na-na-na.
Wenger.
Wenger.
You're a bit of a cult.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
#typo.
I would add to this, that my understanding is that there will be no such March and Ginger Chris thinks as well as being smart and analytical he's brilliant at satire, he's mocking the anti wenger marches by suggesting a counter measure.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Extremely unlikely.Quote:
It is claimed Wenger has announced his decision to leave Arsenal to his players but not the club.
I'm glad the Express obviously holds it's readers in high esteemQuote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
"Listen, i'm going in the summer, but i've not let Stan or Ivan know....and i definitely don't want you saying anything to the press about it!"
I could just about buy it the other way round, that the club knows he's going but he hasn't told the players because the players knowing he is going would have a detrimental affect on their performances :whistle:
Is Arsene into mind games?. I very much doubt it. The gambit would be to tell the players he is leaving, but not the club. Get the players raring up to give him a grand finale. We end up 2nd and Arsene turns round and says. The club have persuaded me to stay. With a twinkle in his eye
In what world are we now going to finish above city, spurs and liverpool or even United?Quote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
Just about as polite as possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcC25r2Xk90
For me, fuck off Wenger. Please.
:lol: Chortle!!!
http://newsthump.com/2017/03/09/piss...arsene-wenger/
:lol:
Wenger In!
It's almost as if we haven't just been spanked 10-2 in the CL. Next game, next game. Forget, forget. Everything must remain the same.Quote:
Speaking ahead of the Gunners' FA Cup quarter-final with Lincoln City on Saturday, Wenger said: 'I work hard for 20 years to make fans happy. When you lose, I understand they are not.
'I don't want to judge that and will give my commitment to my work.'
Asked whether supporter opinion will be one of the main factors when he makes his decision over his future, Wenger said: 'It will influence. But it won't be the most important factor.'
Wenger said he has yet to make a decision on whether he'll be in the job next season. 'My decision is to focus on the next game and to make sure we respond. I don't focus on my future. Football games are important.'
Wenger then insisted that reports he has already told his players he is leaving this summer are false, while also saying that reports of arguments within the camp have been exaggerated. 'A lot has been said. We have a good, united and determined group.
'When you go through disappointing results, you have disagreements. We can show how united we are. On that front, I don't worry.'
Wenger doesn't feel that consistent failure will tarnish his legacy. 'I don't work for my image, I work for this club. After, how I will be judged is not my problem.
'I have shown since I have been here that I love this club and I am loyal to this club. I have made the best decisions for this club and I will continue to do that.'
This doesn't sound like a guy who is planning on going anywhere any time soon.
The fans opinion won't be the most important factor. :lol:
At every other club it is, but not Arsenal. No manager survives amongst this much discontent, except for him.
Apart from "Bye!" what is he supposed to say? Standard responses to standard questions.
How about, "I made the WRONG decisions this season and it has cost us. Again. I'm the manager, I am responsible."Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Can you even imagine Wenger saying something like that? Instead, he has made 20,000 substitutions, how many have you made? Or, how many cups did you win before he arrived? Or, the fans need to change.
Yes, it is the standard responses he's rolling out. What makes him think he can get away with that at this painfully late stage in the game? Kroenke and Gazidis I suppose. He has those two where he wants them, that'll be what he means when he says there are more important considerations than the fans.
I wouldn't expect anyone to admit that unless it was a preface to a resignation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
And that's what annoys people about his stock responses because there is no resignation forthcoming
I reckon he was a goldfish in a previous life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
That all chestnut again, you always seem to have some sort of excuse for the guy, there are literally hundreds of things he could say that would be a better response, a bit of honesty about the situatio wouldn't go amiss and might endear him a bit more to people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Precisely, all we hear (and have done for 10 years) is what is he suppose to say, other managers do the same (they don't I've seen plenty of top managers come out and accept responsibility and say when things haven't been good enough).Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Part of the reason he's lasted so long is that people have been ready to make all kinds of excuses for him rather than just accepting it wasn't good enough.
He needs to make a decision, even if he signs the deal then fine, we'll have some closure for the time being. I'll personally check myself out of anything to do with the club, as will others, but at least for the team they won't be stuck in limbo.
Chips has spoken.
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...senal-chairmanQuote:
Arsenal chairman Sir Chips Keswick says:
“We are fully aware of the attention currently focused on the club and understand the debate. We respect that fans are entitled to their different individual opinions but we will always run this great football club with its best long-term interests at heart.
"Arsčne has a contract until the end of the season. Any decisions will be made by us mutually and communicated at the right time in the right way.”
Read more at http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...pjk2oy52FJL.99
At least coming out with a statement shows they're aware of the ill feeling.
If a person admits to being a loser that's pretty much it for them. We know also that Journalists ask stupid questions and then they are answered with short, arrogant answers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Do I think Wenger is wrong for blaming the fans the way he has done in the past? Yes i think that's contemptible. But let's be fair you seem to be wanting him to acknowledge failure as a preface to him going, that's not unreasonable but it's unrealistic because he isn't going to announce he will resign at the moment...i wish he would but he won't.
Journalists don't ask proper questions they ask questions to try and bait "ah gotcha" responses, I know myself that Wenger is failing as a manager and his failure this season seems to be even more apparent, it doesn't require him to acknowledge it to make it any more real.
Yeah but that statement kinda just says yes we know what the fans are saying but we're going to make the decision, seems to me it's as if they're saying fans don't have a clue about what's good for the long term?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Maybe, it's more saying you might think we are a bunch of money grabbing vampires, and although we are a bunch of money grabbing vampires that's not our agreed PR position.
That's not really what I want at all, I want him to accept responsibility and criticise the team when it's appropriate like most of the managers out there (I've heard them do it many times). His method is to pretend it's all OK but that it's something else causing the issues, I have no time for someone who washes their hands of the problems they have caused to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
I disagree, he does need to acknowledge his errors, it would certainly endear him much more to me and to the fans and might buy him more leeway IMO, his arrogance does the opposite, he basically see's himself as above everyone else.
Criticism and ackowledging your errors is human, all humans make mistakes but to blame everyone else and wash your hands of them is arrogant.
Maybe, I actually think this club has no real understanding or connection with the fans, most of them aren't even football fans on the board, they come from wealthy backgrounds and really have no emotional attachment to what happens on the pitch, they care about what comes into the bank. I think this has been the problem for a while, even PHW use to come out with some outrageous stuff belittling the fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
I know other clubs owners/boards come are wealthy too, but at least some of them are interested in football, our lot don't really seem to care and it shows because if they did there would surely be repercussions for the kinda displays we've put out in the last few years.
We are talking about high profile positions, if a football manager or a politician admits to serious errors than the next question he/she gets is "are you going to resign and if not why not"
To admit to being fallible is not a tenable position for anyone looking to staying in the job it just isn't
In terms of press conferences a manager in this day and age does have to present himself as being above everyone else, and the day he doesn't is the day he goes.
Arsenal Football Club as clubs tend to do has a press office, this statement would have been passed through the press office....this is an official statement not Chips Keswick having a microphone pointed at him as he's getting out of his chauffeur driven Bentley.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
The fact that any statement has been made at all is an acknowledgement that there is fans unrest, and it's saying "well despite what you think we do care about this club as much as you do" it's a lie of course but it's a properly manafactured one.
It's not just today we're talking about it's everytime we lose, everytime we get thrashed, there's never any acknowledgment that we've done anything wrong, like I said other managers acknowledge players underperforming, poor team performances and errors sometimes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Wenger is quite the opposite, not only does he not acknowledge any mistakes or his players being to blame, when something fails he's carries on with it as if he wants to prove people wrong, that's the reason 10 years down the line we still have the same problems, no acknowledgment anything is wrong.
Yes you're right, the problem is that statement comes across as a bit patronising, basically "we've heard the fans, but they don't have a clue about the long term health of the club, so we're going to decide because we do".Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Personally I think a softer stance gievn the situation, acknowledging the concern of the fans and acknowledging the fans are a very important part of Arsenal would have been far better. Story of Arseal these days though, everything can be done better than it is.
"we lacked a little bit sharpness"Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
"we played without belief"
"we played little bit with the handbrake on"
No it's not the acknowledgement of what a total disaster it is, but that realistically isn't going to happen
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
In fact I'll go one step further, if you look at Wenger's comments on Arsenal.com after the Bayern defeat he is flat out speaking as if nothing is wrong. He basically blamed the ref for the defeat the other night and said we competed with Bayern for 45 minutes. Is this what it has come to? We should be grateful for competing with them for a quarter of the tie? What about the other three quarters of the tie where they ripped us to shreads? Are we supposed to just forget that and move on AGAIN....?
I don't want Wenger to apologise after every defeat but i do want him to show some humility and be honest with himself and the fans, we are the laughing stock in football right now, we have been humiliated over the past few weeks yet Wenger is talking as if it's business usual...nothing wrong here, just an overreaction!
There is plenty WRONG and it's been WRONG for a while now!!!