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By the way it's hilarious how players like Denilson and Bendtner are not wanted by other clubs. That should take them down a peg or two. Bendtner especially behaves like a big time Charlie, even though his actual talent is a small fraction of the size of ego. Then there's Denilson, who thinks tracking midfield runners is beneath him. Hope we stick the two in the reserves if we can't flog them, they'd deserve it.
I'm sorry mate, but you're not making much sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
On the one hand you're saying we're letting top players contracts run down.
On the other you're saying we're paying out stupid money to players that don't deserve big wage hikes.
Now, out of the players you have mentioned, Nasri seems like the "toppest" player, and surely the player that you were initially thinking of, because this wouldn't have come up otherwise.
Tell me what Nasri had done to deserve an improved deal last summer, that, BTW, we did offer. All 90k of it??
Furthermore, Nasri's value last year would have been nothing compared to now. Especially coming off the back of NIL return, having been injured for much of his SECOND season with us, and many fans on here baying for blood because he wasn't good enough.
Yet. He comes out at the beginning of last year, and proves he is one of our TOP players, and that perhaps AW was right to offer him a new deal, and have faith in his ability.
I don't get where you are coming from. Because for all I can see, you're twisting what is a situation we've tried to resolve with a more than reasonable offer, at the right time, into something you can beat Wenger with.
Waiting to see who it is having a medical today,for us.
Still not like United...Champions, strengthening, no one leaving..Young, De Gea and Jones in the bag....NO FUSS!
With Scholes retiring they have an even bigger hole in midfield to fix now though, let them buy in wingers who aren't much better than what they've got, if they don't deal with their ailing midfield their transfer window will be a failure imo.
I think they're on the lookout for a midfielder next (which explains why they're linked with Nasri) With Ferguson he doesn't waste time, making sure he gets the necessary recruitments in early.
They have it solved...he's called Samir NasriQuote:
Originally Posted by Darth Vela
Why, is there rumour that someone is?? Or is this press conf. 7pm kthx stuff....?Quote:
Originally Posted by Elche
That's next season though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elche
It is pretty funny, especially the statement from Shakthar 'they offered us Denilson, we are not interested in him at all', if it forced them to change their attitude it might work out nicely if they don't leave this year, doubt it would though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker
At 8am this morning several Journalists,and AST Members all started communicating about a medical today happening as we speak...Player unknown...It's been rife on Twitter all morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
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Originally Posted by Elche
Gervinho then I guess.
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Elche
They wish.
I thought this had been posted about the medical, as the info has been circulating for hours.
We're a bit slow this morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elche
Let's dig around a bit.....:woohoo:
Yeah, I'm sure they are looking to get one in but they need a real class act so I'd guess they're gonna take their time over it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker
http://news.arseblog.com/index.php/2...tied-up-today/Quote:
Another day, another report in the French media claiming Arsenal are closing in on Lille attacker Gervinho.
This morning L’Equipe claims that the Gunners have tabled a final €12 million offer for the Ivorian, which the Ligue 1 champions will accept. The 24-year-old has also reportedly agreed a four year contract at the Emirates and could undertake the formality of a medical this afternoon.
Jones and Young can both play CM innit.
And so can Eboue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boss
They should buy Eboue for 20m instead.
Of such things, dreams are made. :cloud9:Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Vela
True, it could be an incentive for them to change their mindset, but their previous actions suggest otherwise unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Vela
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker
http://blogs.soccernet.com/onthemove/Quote:
11.01: Marca says Barcelona and Arsenal have expressed an interest in signing Juan Mata to the player’s agent, and now Tottenham have joined the race for his services. Valencia are demanding €25 million for the Spain Under-21 star.
my money is on a CB - getting excited! - CahillQuote:
Originally Posted by LDG
:pray: that is not the club (sorry company) forgetting to give Jenkinson his
just read LDG's later mail -:getcoat:
Ok what I meant is we shouldn't pay kids who have never achieved anything (and were bought young for next to nothing) big money.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
Nasri is slightly different, we bought him for a fair whack thus offering him a new contract makes sense if only to get back most of what we paid out, by letting him run down his contract we're losing money, that was my point.
I'm not saying Nasri was worth a new contract just that we spent a lot on him. Clichy I agree with he had been poor and maybe we'd have been stuck with him had he been on a longer contract.
I couldn't remember the figure to be honest, but yeah he's on way too much either way IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Vela
I only want us to renegotiate contracts for players we paid out big money for, simply to protect our investment or for players who perform brilliantly
In your eyes or in my eyes or the eyes to most on GW, but helping the club reach its aim of beeing a top 4 club means the players have achevied success in AW and the baords eye's.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
so they were "reawaded" for it. My only problem is the stupid long contracts not the pay as such.
just extend then my 2 years/3 years max none of this 5/6 year extenstion nonsense we have been doing.
Fair enough, I think the important thing is balance between that and not being taken for mugs to the point whereby everyone's demanding wages anyway, we're usually pretty close to the right balance imo which is why we've only lost one guy in the last 6 years, despite being pretty skint compared to our rivals but you're never going to hit it perfectly.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
To be honest not sure Denilson or Bendtner helped much with that, nor Eboue, Diaby or Rosicky.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
If they'd performed well then fair enough, they just haven't though. We give out big money before a player has done anything, in a sense it's a demotivator as they have no motivation to improve in some cases and don't feel they have anything to prove.
It's not helped by Wenger's constant praise either, with the money they earn and the praise they get they must think they're playing like Messi, is it any wonder they have big ego's when the manager does this?
Actually, on our run of tight defensive play and letting Arshavin do all the creative work in order to salvage 4th place, Denilson and Diaby were instrumental in keeping us tight in midfield. I know no-one will believe that ever actually happened, memories tend not to stretch that far on the internet but it happened.
Denilson sucks donkey dick.
Wouldnt want Lloris here as hes shit. As for the other nobody, no thanks. We need a world class keeperQuote:
INTER MILAN keeper Emiliano Viviano is an £8million target for Arsenal.
Gunners boss Arsene Wenger will make his move as soon as he finally offloads Emirates misfit Manuel Almunia.
Inter have only just paid Bologna £3.8m to acquire the full rights for Viviano, 25, who had been co-owned by the two clubs.
But the 6ft 5in Italian would welcome a move to Arsenal to battle Wojcech Szczesny for the No 1 spot rarther than be Julio Cesar's understudy at the San Siro.
Almunia lost his place at Arsenal after a series of blunders last season and fans demanded Wenger bring in an experienced stopper this summer.
But targeting Viviano suggests Wenger is not prepared to break the bank with a £20m swoop for Lyon's France No 1 Hugo Lloris.
Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...#ixzz1QfOBHy4B
We ain't getting loris when we have FlappyhandskiQuote:
Originally Posted by Ach
We're not getting a keeper for 10 years now.
/keeper rumours
Just as Fabregas never plays a crappy pass or interception, never misses a shot or a tackle; so Denilson and Diaby never do anything right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Vela
We can always get De Gea. Wenger is great at targeting young talent before anoyone else.
Oh I forgot he´s just signed for someone else.
:sleep:
funniest rumour so far this summer?
AC milan are interested in Denilson
:lol:
Well, they did sign that other Arsenal superstar, Flamini.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Punchinello Beezo
yeah but he was free and at least he triedQuote:
Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner
He is, that's why we've got Szczesny and he didn't cost £20 million.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elreactor
Does the fact De Gea is 40 million times better than our Polish clown not come in to it though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter