Transfer News, Rumours and Bollocks Thread

[Syn]

It's not Wenger's so called "socialism" that's the problem, it's his free market fundamentalist ideas that has got us into this predicament, combined with the old fashioned ideas of our board members, who are simply old Etonian dinosaurs.

[Boss]

11.01: Marca says Barcelona and Arsenal have expressed an interest in signing Juan Mata to the player’s agent, and now Tottenham have joined the race for his services. Valencia are demanding €25 million for the Spain Under-21 star.

http://blogs.soccernet.com/onthemove/

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Gervinho then I guess.

my money is on a CB - getting excited! - Cahill

that is not the club (sorry company) forgetting to give Jenkinson his


just read LDG's later mail -

[Özim]

I'm sorry mate, but you're not making much sense.

On the one hand you're saying we're letting top players contracts run down.

On the other you're saying we're paying out stupid money to players that don't deserve big wage hikes.

Now, out of the players you have mentioned, Nasri seems like the "toppest" player, and surely the player that you were initially thinking of, because this wouldn't have come up otherwise.

Tell me what Nasri had done to deserve an improved deal last summer, that, BTW, we did offer. All 90k of it??

Furthermore, Nasri's value last year would have been nothing compared to now. Especially coming off the back of NIL return, having been injured for much of his SECOND season with us, and many fans on here baying for blood because he wasn't good enough.

Yet. He comes out at the beginning of last year, and proves he is one of our TOP players, and that perhaps AW was right to offer him a new deal, and have faith in his ability.

I don't get where you are coming from. Because for all I can see, you're twisting what is a situation we've tried to resolve with a more than reasonable offer, at the right time, into something you can beat Wenger with.

Ok what I meant is we shouldn't pay kids who have never achieved anything (and were bought young for next to nothing) big money.

Nasri is slightly different, we bought him for a fair whack thus offering him a new contract makes sense if only to get back most of what we paid out, by letting him run down his contract we're losing money, that was my point.

I'm not saying Nasri was worth a new contract just that we spent a lot on him. Clichy I agree with he had been poor and maybe we'd have been stuck with him had he been on a longer contract.

[Özim]

Chamakh on 50k? After signing him for free? I'd be surprised if it's under 65k at the very least.

I have no doubt our young players are on more than at other clubs, them being first team regulars and all but I'm not entirely sure what your point is. You want us to negotiate contracts earlier just in case players get good later but you don't want us to pay young players more as they haven't proven themselves yet? That seems kinda contradictory to me.

I couldn't remember the figure to be honest, but yeah he's on way too much either way IMO.

I only want us to renegotiate contracts for players we paid out big money for, simply to protect our investment or for players who perform brilliantly

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Ok what I meant is we shouldn't pay kids who have never achieved anything (and were bought young for next to nothing) big money.

Nasri is slightly different, we bought him for a fair whack thus offering him a new contract makes sense if only to get back most of what we paid out, by letting him run down his contract we're losing money, that was my point.

I'm not saying Nasri was worth a new contract just that we spent a lot on him. Clichy I agree with he had been poor and maybe we'd have been stuck with him had he been on a longer contract.

In your eyes or in my eyes or the eyes to most on GW, but helping the club reach its aim of beeing a top 4 club means the players have achevied success in AW and the baords eye's.

so they were "reawaded" for it. My only problem is the stupid long contracts not the pay as such.

just extend then my 2 years/3 years max none of this 5/6 year extenstion nonsense we have been doing.

[Darth Vela]

I couldn't remember the figure to be honest, but yeah he's on way too much either way IMO.

I only want us to renegotiate contracts for players we paid out big money for, simply to protect our investment or for players who perform brilliantly

Fair enough, I think the important thing is balance between that and not being taken for mugs to the point whereby everyone's demanding wages anyway, we're usually pretty close to the right balance imo which is why we've only lost one guy in the last 6 years, despite being pretty skint compared to our rivals but you're never going to hit it perfectly.

[Özim]

In your eyes or in my eyes or the eyes to most on GW, but helping the club reach its aim of beeing a top 4 club means the players have achevied success in AW and the baords eye's.

so they were "reawaded" for it. My only problem is the stupid long contracts not the pay as such.

just extend then my 2 years/3 years max none of this 5/6 year extenstion nonsense we have been doing.

To be honest not sure Denilson or Bendtner helped much with that, nor Eboue, Diaby or Rosicky.

If they'd performed well then fair enough, they just haven't though. We give out big money before a player has done anything, in a sense it's a demotivator as they have no motivation to improve in some cases and don't feel they have anything to prove.

It's not helped by Wenger's constant praise either, with the money they earn and the praise they get they must think they're playing like Messi, is it any wonder they have big ego's when the manager does this?

[Darth Vela]

Actually, on our run of tight defensive play and letting Arshavin do all the creative work in order to salvage 4th place, Denilson and Diaby were instrumental in keeping us tight in midfield. I know no-one will believe that ever actually happened, memories tend not to stretch that far on the internet but it happened.

[Marc Overmars]

Denilson sucks donkey dick.