Winter Transfer Speculation and Shit.

To be fair to Bender, I always think that watching the snooker.

I even thought it a couple of times at the Olympics ffs.

Seen some clips of Costa.

Definitely faster and more agile than Giroud. Looks an absolute unit too.

I'd be happy with him.

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Originally Posted by JonasTC

No, i like to go into debates without knowing anything about the subject :sarcy:

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Who knows! If you've seen him play, how do you think he'll fit into our system and will be differ from what we've seen before or currently have? I've only seen a few clips and I'm skeptical but want to hear what others have to say who have seen him play.

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Originally Posted by Özim

Get me something credible cos that's stuff isn't.

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*looks up 'credible' inthe Oxford English Zimmtionary*

"Something that agrees with whatever I've already decided to be true"

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Who knows! If you've seen him play, how do you think he'll fit into our system and will be differ from what we've seen before or currently have? I've only seen a few clips and I'm skeptical but want to hear what others have to say who have seen him play.

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I think he's a complete striker, his strongest site are definitely his ability to find space, he's fast enough to get behind the defenders and strong enough to hold them off, with all our creative midfielders he'll be getting fed all day in good positions, the way we cant do with Giroud. My only worries tho, is that he doesnt give a fuck on the field, he'll dive, he'll get into the refs face, start trouble with whoever, but it seems its getting better this season in that area.

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Originally Posted by Özim

Yeah noone believes he will be better than Falcoa, well 1 person does but noone else.

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Are we getting his name wrong? Why do you keep calling him Falcoa? Isn't it Falcao? Are we actually speaking about different players.....? lol

You have kind of ignored Jonas' point about his scoring record actually looking quite good last season and the season before relative to the number of games he played.

Before RvP had his first fully fit season with us, if you'd looked at his season before you'd have seen a decent scoring record. A scoring record is not to be dismissed just because a player didn't play every game that season.

I confess, I haven't comprehensively seen him play or even noticed him until recently but I do think he is an interesting proposition (as I've clearly stated). I suspect acquiring a top class forward is going to be neither cheap or straight forward so I just think we are going to have to show some street savvy to get a player in of that quality. Unless we sign a young player who has that type of potential....in which case he will be a few years off, or we try to sign another Real cast off from a big club, the player is not going to cost less than 30 odd million. Even Higuain's price eventually exceeded 30 million.

I also don't really get the logic in a stop gap. We will be stuck with the stop gap for the foreseeable future and not just till summer. If he is no better than Bendtner, Podolski or Walcott up front, what's the point? If he is a loan signing, he probably won't have the type of quality we are all really hoping for....or may be way beyond his best ala Henry (much as I love him).

What kind of stop gap is significantly better than Bendtner, available and not going to cost us a significant amount of money?

Ironically, part of the reason that Julio 'The Beast' Baptista (Costa reference/comparison in my head) didn't work out was the fact that he was actually more concerned with pulling off individual pieces of skill than actually......beasting past people and scoring. So I do find it quite ironically that we would be overly concerned about Costa's apparent lack of technical ability.

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Originally Posted by Letters To Santa

*looks up 'credible' inthe Oxford English Zimmtionary*

"Something that agrees with whatever I've already decided to be true"

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Well no, but having quotes that actually say he's better would be a start (preferably from people without specific agenda's).

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Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice

Are we getting his name wrong? Why do you keep calling him Falcoa? Isn't it Falcao? Are we actually speaking about different players.....? lol

You have kind of ignored Jonas' point about his scoring record actually looking quite good last season and the season before relative to the number of games he played.

Before RvP had his first fully fit season with us, if you'd looked at his season before you'd have seen a decent scoring record. A scoring record is not to be dismissed just because a player didn't play every game that season.

I confess, I haven't comprehensively seen him play or even noticed him until recently but I do think he is an interesting proposition (as I've clearly stated). I suspect acquiring a top class forward is going to be neither cheap or straight forward so I just think we are going to have to show some street savvy to get a player in of that quality. Unless we sign a young player who has that type of potential....in which case he will be a few years off, or we try to sign another Real cast off from a big club, the player is not going to cost less than 30 odd million. Even Higuain's price eventually exceeded 30 million.

I also don't really get the logic in a stop gap. We will be stuck with the stop gap for the foreseeable future and not just till summer. If he is no better than Bendtner, Podolski or Walcott up front, what's the point? If he is a loan signing, he probably won't have the type of quality we are all really hoping for....or may be way beyond his best ala Henry (much as I love him).

What kind of stop gap is significantly better than Bendtner, available and not going to cost us a significant amount of money?

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JonasTC said people said he's better than Falcoa.

It's not bad yes, one in every 2 or so, but I saw him a number of times last season and wasn't really that impressed to be honest.

Before last season his record was poor as well. RVP was different, like Torres and Aguero he has much more to his game, his ability was there to see at 20, not the case with Costa.

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Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice

Ironically, part of the reason that Julio 'The Beast' Baptista (Costa reference/comparison in my head) didn't work out was the fact that he was actually more concerned with pulling off individual pieces of skill than actually......beasting past people and scoring. So I do find it quite ironically that we would be overly concerned about Costa's apparent lack of technical ability.

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I'd say he didn't work out because he not very good in the the end, he's not done anything of note since those goals, his finishing is very average, but he was unproven as well.