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Originally Posted by BlindFaith_8
GB :bow:
Also...making up stuff and then getting all angry about it ftw! :lol;
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Originally Posted by BlindFaith_8
GB :bow:
Also...making up stuff and then getting all angry about it ftw! :lol;
The mirror says that citeh will be after villa to replace balotelli.
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Making up words, too!Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
thickle :bow:
Most of Newcastle's recent signings are probably not the type of players who we need, but Moussa Sissoko would have been extremely useful to us. He's strong, powerful, covers a lot of ground and is a good passer. Arteta IMO is not mobile enough to play in the defensive midfield position, while Sissoko offers qualities that are very useful especially in the Premier League. I think we missed out there.
Its a toffee like substance that goes well on top of sponge. . .describes Arsenal fans quite well TBFQuote:
Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
If that were to happen...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeebus
GW. :rose:
It would indeed be pooey
:oldboy: But there's no super super quality players to be had in January that aren't cup-tied for the CL or want to leave their clubs! How much was Sissoko? Am still gutted about Yanga-Mbiwa too be honest - but hey ho. Am sure our paper thin squad will all remain fully-fit for the entire rest of season and able to compete on all levels ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Joker
And just if my mate Grimandi's Perm pops on here...still think Cabaye wouldn't have been a good buy and that part of the reason Newcastle are where they are partly coincides with his injury? And that Joe Hart is the most over-rated of over-rated players? Caesar's save yesterday wasn't too bad either. Honestly sometimes :banghead:
I saw this and was gonna post it up, brilliant :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm
Guys, even if we miss out signing anyone this month, did you not read the rumours? We are going to be spending BIG in the summer. So if we can just look past this current transfer window and be patient I think everything will be great.
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QPR bid for Chris Samba. :lol:
Crooknapp shamelessly talking about how short they are, didn't they sign about 46 players in the summer?
QPR have signed Suk-Young. :lol:
If Man City do sign Villa and there is a good chance that may happen, ******* will come out with the usual BS that they have unlimited resources which poor ole Arsenal could not compete. It will prove we cant negotiate a deal for players which is why we are probably not signing any players. That's were David Dein was so vital, he was a wheeler dealer who could sell sand tp the A-rabs.
How is it BS? How do we compete in the transfer market with a club who can oudbid us for any player and offer the players twice what we can?Quote:
Originally Posted by BlindFaith_8
To be fair it doesn't stop us signing quality players, it's just that we're not willing to pay for them. We have enough funds and could easily if we chose to sign some players who would make a real difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
I think if Villa was looking for a final pay day, he would have sounded out clubs in Russia, China and the Middle East. My point was that if man Cit could convince the Barcelona board to let him go, it just goes to show we were to soft in negotiations, considering these catalans have a history of turning up uninvited and shopping at the Emirates for our best players with longterm contracts. That was my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Yep, let's just wait and see.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlindFaith_8
I'm as skeptical about transfer as anybody on here but we really don't know the facts yet re: Villa.
They might outbid us, and they might use their contacts now they've recruited all the ex-barca peops upstairs...but the thing that really gets me is that Arsenal are seen as a really soft touch when it comes to transfer dealings and I think a huge part of that is the way our transfer 'dealers' perform - Gazidis in particular. If I am not mistaken, we did not get the 35million from Cesc transfer in one big chunk - it will be paid out over a series of seasons (with Barca's prize money), we also didn't get the 15million for Alex song in one big chunk - in fact I don't think we've ever got paid in one big chunk - except by Man City! Which brings me to the point - Barca - are not financially secure (but will they be investigated, prob not) yet, we allow them to do deals like this with us. They probably have a good 25-30million outstanding in what they owe to us and yet they can turn around and say 'no' we are not selling Villa to you - because they are under no pressure to wipe out their debt. Who will dare to touch them? Platini? Blatter? they are barca fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
They should hand Villa over on a plate the amount of times they've screwed us and unsettled our players. But no. I honestly think they are scum.
Having said that...we've bid around 10million - I think Villa by reputation will command higher transfer fee than that esp when you think Song went for 15million. Bid 15million.
It is standard practice to be paid transfer fees over a number of years and with conditions linked to success/appearances/etc.
Getting paid in one lump sum is not the norm.
Most transfers aren't paid in "one big chunk", the vast majority are paid in instalments over a number of years. I think the most common is half now, half in a year, but it can be across a much longer period. Not to mention whenever performance bonuses are involved. The only times they aren't are when the likes of City or Madrid are involved, or like the Torres-Carroll debacle.
Unfortunately it doesn't work like that. It's business. I'll say one thing though, if Villa wants to come here which seems to be the case (as in it's widely reported) and we are offering an amount Barca see as acceptable, but they are refusing to sell him out of spite, we should put a ban on transfer between the 2 clubs. Seriously if I was Arsene I'd refuse to deal with them. They'll come knocking again for a player one day soon and we should refuse to sell the player to them irrespective of the situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10
dont want to tip you into suicide but van persie's deal is also being paid through instalments. heard its £12m up front and the rest dependent on trophies etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10
Which is fair enough - but when it's a player like Cesc - should we accept being paid over 5 years? When he will bring them instant success? I pretty sure we could be a little more heavy-handed in the transfer market.Quote:
Originally Posted by GB.
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bergkampwonderland10
I'm not condoning our conduct in the market at all.
Good grief, we're small time.
Mancini was speaking last night in the aftermath of their draw, when asked, said he didn't think they would sign anyone.
And why should they? If any side in this league does not need yet another quality forward, it's them.
Really??? 12m upfront and the rest depending on trophies??? How does that work? so if ManU fail to win anything they get RvP for 12mill? I dont think thats accurate, can anyone confirm this?Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
No, it's extremely unlikely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Newguy
based on trophies, appearances etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Newguy
just like any normal transfer in modern football. its rare that all the money is paid up front nowadays.
Fulham close to signing Urby Emanuelson on loan.
Coutinho is signed, sealed and delivered.
And it looks like Everton's fer deal is off. :pal:
Fer is done Fer, dodgy knee apparently
That's 50mill this season. How much for next?Quote:
Originally Posted by Suarez Is Boss
Is that our spending? It might go even higher if we really want Ince, but hopefully we don't. hopefully our wage bill will look a bit healthier though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
Depends on many things. Whether we bother to start putting money aside for Anfield, if we have any major players leaving and the massively unlikely chance we finish 4th. But it does put pay to the BS that FSG won't spend anymore.
apparently wenger bid £8m for david villa
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completely buries that idea you're right, they certainly back their managers and live in the real world. although i'd think a top six would be the min expected and a better start to next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suarez Is Boss
The wheeler dealer is now trying to sign Hangeland. That club is going to fall to pieces if they go down. All 'Arry is doing now is sending loads of players out on loan to leave space to satisfy his fetish.
Well I don't think they'd have been as giving had they not hesitated/blocked buying Dempsey, but I wouldn't be surprised if we had a nett spend of about £20-30m in the summer as well. And as you say, if they do then the expectations will creep higher.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
Although I do keep skipping between thinking, on paper, we have a decent team (not squad), and then thinking it's crap. So I won't say "we're not that far away" yet.
What a cheap ass. We expect top dollar for our players yet if this is true we make petty offers, is it any wonder the Barcelona board told him to fuck off.Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon