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That's what Mancini has done, and they were accused of being boring, but finished ahead of us and won a trophy. You need solidarity before you can play the pretty stuff, its common sense, but Wenger is too far up his own backside and thinks endless attacking play will always win out.Quote:
Originally Posted by BOBN
What use is attractive football if you can't even defend set pieces, bread and butter stuff or be organized well enough to defend as a team all over the pitch?
If he finishes first in the PFA awards then hes better than Nasri.Quote:
Originally Posted by BOBN
combined goals and assists.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
deal?
agreed. the medias tears for mark hughes hadnt even dried yet and he already had the defence conceeding half the number of goals. literally took weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tipsychubbs
but our wenger doesnt do defence.
I'm not sure a direct comparison between Gervinho and Nasri is really the thing. The one would not be, I hope, a direct replacement for the other. If there's a comparison it should be with Walcott and that's more or less the role Gervinho would play. Nasri isn't really a winger-striker type player but more of a central attacking midfielder played out wide from time to time. If Nasri (and Cesc) go we'd need to replace them with a simialr type player - although the emergence of Wilshere already helps. And if the said replacement is moderately durable you could replace both Cesc and Nasri with a single player.
That's what I mean. Wenger can't sort out the defence and he coaches pass pass pass which kills a dribblers game. Nasri can actually dribble. Hleb could also dribble when he arrived. Some how it gets coached out of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by BOBN
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...012219,00.htmlQuote:
Reports may suggest that Cesc Fabregas, Samir Nasri and Gael Clichy are set to leave Arsenal this summer, but Tomas Rosicky wants to stay at Emirates Stadium.
Great.
Rosicky. :haha:
They are infected with WengeritisQuote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
I dont blame Nasri or Cesc for wanting to leave one bit. Who would want to resign another contract when they know that Arsene will throw their asses out of the club as soon as they are 29?? Everyone wants our players to be loyal but I dunno how they can possibly do that when we have such absurd policies in place.
If Nasri and Cesc stay and the club invests in 1 or 2 big signings this team would walk the league. I dont understand why a club whose as big as ours fails to see this.
I won't forget the way this club treated Dennis Bergkamp in his last few years. One summer he didn't know whether to return to Holland or stay in London. He didn't know if he had played his last game in the Arsenal shirt. Shameful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Lahey
agreed especially when it comes to players who gave the club everything they had....Bergie, Bobby, Freddie etc...Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
If we sell 2 of our best 3 players this summer and we bring in the likes of Gervihno, Alvarez and Jagielka than I will not tune into one match next year. Thats how fed up I am with whats going on at the club.
The club is really pushing it. I feel the same way. Was looking forwards to going to the Emirates until today. Feels like these guys are taking the piss.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...hy-samir-nasri
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• £7m fee agreed with Arsenal for Gaël Clichy
• No high-level talks concerning Samir Nasri
250 pages in this transfer bollocks thread. One player signed for 1mil. Pretty sad tbh
I'll happily wave Clichy & Denilson out the door.
Cesc - His back heel against Barcelona and I can't remember anything later in the season. It's time for him to go.
Nasri - I think will stay and play the Cesc role.
It really isn't hard to do what mancini and fergie does against us... 3DM's? Or 7 Defenders?
Difference between them and us is that they know how to quickly turn defence into attack, there wing play is better and there strikers are more potent. Less stupid mistakes? Not really. Seen Evra, Vidic and Kompany have shockers. Think, when did we ever go from 2 nill down to come back? Could you ever rely on Chamakh and co to tip tap it into the goal?
People always talk about mental toughness this, and defence that - but when you know that don't need your entire midfield, wingbacks and maybe a center back on the edge of the box to score it makes a big fucking difference.
This could end up being a hideous summer - I can see it now:
Cesc, Nasri and Clichy go
Denilson, Rosicky, Bendy all stay with Gibbs promoted to LB :shudders:
Rosicky is the one that really irks me - he may be a nice bloke, but we owe him no favours. The occasional times he makes it onto the pitch he is useless, and is undoubtedly on high wages.
Why aren't we moving shite like this on?!
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Originally Posted by Ach
Two different type of players, but in general Nasri pisses all over Gervinho.
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Originally Posted by milla
And with Nasri moving to a club with some proper coaching and Gervinho coming to us, this gap will only increase.
Because they're shite and nobody, apart from Wenger, wants them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaron Wilshere
But Wenger has such an eye for young talent, surely someone must want them? :coffee:
the reason I dont rate nasri is hes not even good at the tippy-tappy stuff. just does a bunch of unimaginative, cowardly back passes, he has no vision whatsover with his passing frankly. so if he cant be that be direct in taking players on...no, cant do that, too weak. score and assist then....nopey.
now hleb was a player who was good at the link play. absolutely superb. we'll look back one day on the hleb-flamini-cesc-rosicky and realise they were the only wenger side that could be mistaken for barcelona in the way they used the ball
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IghPkGt77Q0
hleeeeeb :crying:
this is the team taht when played the top four put then men behind the goaline both home and away and accepted a draw if they got it? oh and spent a gabillion quid. they deserve fuck all credit for finishing above us. if scum didnt fuck, if we didnt, and liverpool actaully played like they should then they would be not even playing europa leagueQuote:
Originally Posted by Tipsychubbs
Too right..that midfield was the best midfield we've ever had imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by BOBN
As for the transfers...FFS all our top class are pissing off and the dog shit pieces of wanking crap are stuck on the undersole of our club, obstinante and refusing to fuck off.
@ollie
That's a lot of ifs
We were incredibly good for the first half of that season. Easily the best and most consistent football we've played since the Invincibles.Quote:
Originally Posted by BOBN
But naturally of course we fucked it up as usual and lost half of that midfield in the summer, then we were back to square one. :(
true but lets face it, we fucked up gifting citeh third. they deserve no credit for third. cunts of a clubQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
This has nothing to do with Nasri. Rozza, Cesc, Hleb, Flamini, RVP and The whore were much more balance combination/dynamic than our current front six. :coffee:Quote:
Originally Posted by BOBN
I love you.Quote:
Originally Posted by BOBN
(no homo)
We lost Rozza and RVP on the 2nd half of the season, Eboue took over the right flank and the rest was history.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
We should get Hleb back for a laugh tbh.
Here, this should male you all feel better
:lol:
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/tran...cle754696.html
wouldnt be that bad. not as first choice of course but underrated imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
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Originally Posted by AKBapologist
Seems pretty much done and dusted then.Quote:
Originally Posted by AKBapologist
Gezza. :bow:
Thank fuck we aren't getting the barcunt nobodyQuote:
This summer, the Catalan club have turned down "substantial" offers from England for midfield starlet Thiago Alcantara, says his father, who is also his agent. Arsenal, Manchester United and Bolton were all understood to be interested in signing the Spain Under-21 ace this summer.
Full story: talkSPORT
Arsenal are lining up a club record bid for Anderlecht's highly-rated teenage striker Romelu Lukaku.
Full story: caughtoffside.com
The Gunners remain keen on Bolton defender Gary Cahill. Wanderers want £17m for the player but Arsenal may offer Henri Lansbury or Ignasi Miguel in part exchange.
Full story: Daily Mirror
Would love Lukaku here
Cahills shit
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Originally Posted by Ach
good player not at that price though