Match Reaction Vs Norwich

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Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...

You'll have married life to keep you calm soon.

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Fucking irresponsible comment that one! Heartless. The poor **** is already on the deck.

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Originally Posted by LDG

That's the rub of it though innit. It's not just one shit game.

It's happened too often, year after year. I can accept defeat. It's enevitable sometimes....I wasn't happy about Chelsea game, but I could just about stomach it...even though I thought we should have won the game (they were there for the taking IMO).

I can't take watching shit like we saw yesterday though. I'm still fuming at it. It was possibly in the top ten of the worst performances I've watched since I started supporting the team.

No desire. No quality. No thought.

We were a shambles at half time. The whole team should have been kicked up the arse. But we got 45 minutes of exactly the same...possibly worse.

Utterly disgusted with the lot of them.

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I am not embellishing when I say I thought it was the most lacklustre and disinterested performance I've seen in years. We were behind by a single goal against the worst team in the league and I knew there was no prospect of us coming back or even stepping up a gear.

I couldn't stomach watching anymore so after the umpteenth pathetic corner by Cazorla in the 67th minute, I switched over and didn't even bother to switch back during adverts to see what was happening.

I can't remember being so fed up before and doing that. I even considered sending my brother in Oz a text telling him he would get more enjoyment from setting fire to his pvr and sticking rusty knives in his eyes.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Fucking irresponsible comment that one! Heartless. The poor **** is already on the deck.

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70k a week. Dream on - more like 70k a day. He's on a lot more that 3.5 million quid a year im certain of that.

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Originally Posted by milla

As long has he gets his 70k every week, he couldn't give a flyin fuck. :coffee:

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I though Redknapp hit the nail on the head on MOTD when he ripped shit out of the idea that we are a more balanced team without RVP.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Letting RvC go to Utd has damaged this club in several major and fundamental ways. The message that sent won't be shaken off easily. You couple that with a string of false dawns and even a good run won't shake the doubts. The atmosphere around this club stinks. For the past 3-4 years anyone who has been paying attention could have predicted the outcome of each season in advance - same goes for this season. So it must eventually get difficult to muster enthusiasm for the inevitable.

In fact why not do this.

Whew! We got 4th. Thank fuck for that, thought we were going to be caught and we would have been if the season went two games longer. So then, does anyone think Cazorla will stay? He says he loves the club - I think (hope) he'll stay. Word is Messi is coming, don't think it will happen but you never know. Roll on 2014.

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Originally Posted by Gervinho's Forehead

It's not like you to be so defeatist after one shit game, don't blame you though. :(

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When LDG is pissed of you know its bad.

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Originally Posted by jelgoon

Was it me or did Wenger not even seem pissed off when he was inteviewed on the box. Maybe he doesnt really give a toss anymore.

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Did not see the interview, but whats the point in seeming pissed off if it will only happen again season after season.
Not bothered about that i want to see him take action not just to angry words in an interview.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

Everything won't be ok until Gazidis and WUMger And PhW and Stan fuck off into the sunset.

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Originally Posted by selassie

Wenger is delivering the goods so to speak. To make the club profit and achieve top 4 football. That's the reality. I mean when was the last time you heard anybody from within the club confidently speak about the club challenging for the title?

We've given up, we won't and can't compete with the "financially doped" clubs so instead of trying to do as much as we can to bridge the gap we sell them our best players.

If they don't care why should we?

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Bang on the money.

The only Bs they come out with is how we can compete and how we have the money and all that crap. You can see for years now even Wenger don't believe half the shit he spouts. The **** is just a proud man who won't admit his mistakes.

Wenger Out :coffee: and take all those ****s with you.

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Originally Posted by GB.

I'm giving Wenger one more season, if he doesn't sort it out, then it might be time for him to go.

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Why. Nah people on here no how much i supported the guy, but enough is enough. For me he can go Ill be sad in a way but time for freshness. Not that it will make much diffrence with Ivan and ****s still around. Least we may see decent tactics.

Wenger will not be going unless he chooses to go. He is absolutely perfect for this club. No other manager could manage the priorities of the board so efficiently.

1. Make them richer.
2. Get us into Europe to keep cash flowing.
3. Other stuff connected to the finances of the club.
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993. Give the fans a equitable return on their investment.
994. Entertain.

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Originally Posted by GB.

I want is to win every match we play and that will always be my mindset ahead of games. However, I feel the only escape from this rut will come from a failure to qualify for the ECL or the real prospect of doing so ahead of negotiation of commercial deals.

There will be no impetus on the money men to do anything while the cash rolls in.

It is depressing to think our hope of reform lies in how the Board views the potential value of assets and income

Wouldn't it be nice to have a Club run by those who want to win on the pitch instead of the balance sheet?

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:gp: Can't fault that.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Wenger will not be going unless he chooses to go. He is absolutely perfect for this club. No other manager could manage the priorities of the board so efficiently.

1. Make them richer.
2. Get us into Europe to keep cash flowing.
3. Other stuff connected to the finances of the club.
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993. Give the fans a equitable return on their investment.
994. Entertain.

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Yeah well. So's your face :coffee:

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

Why. Nah people on here no how much i supported the guy, but enough is enough. For me he can go Ill be sad in a way but time for freshness. Not that it will make much diffrence with Ivan and ****s still around. Least we may see decent tactics.

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I wanted Wenger gone a few seasons back. He's had enough chances and has failed miserably. This new policy of selling our stars to our rivals is lunacy. I really do not understand what's going on at the club and I don't understand why we can't spend what we recoup on Transfers...are we really that broke?

Everything about what we do is reactive both on and off the field.

We pride ourselves on being different.

Well tbf Fergie did sell us Silvestor a few years back sp we did owe then one :unsure:

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Originally Posted by selassie

I wanted Wenger gone a few seasons back. He's had enough chances and has failed miserably. This new policy of selling our stars to our rivals is lunacy. I really do not understand what's going on at the club and I don't understand why we can't spend what we recoup on Transfers...are we really that broke?

Everything about what we do is reactive both on and off the field.

We pride ourselves on being different.

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Yeo happy being best of the rest tbh. You have the top 3 then you have the rest and were the best of the rest (he says loosely)

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I really do not understand what's going on at the club

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A few already wealthy individuals are using it (have used it) to further enrich themselves. They are riding on the back of what this club has achieved in the past for as long as it will carry them. That's the entire club in a nutshell, everything else is shop dressing to conceal the primary objective.

The thing as we all know why it happening whilst Arsenal are gettig the revenue from 60,000 fans per week the board don't really care if we win anything or not, regular fans could say well I won't go for a while but then fans that haven't been able to see Arsenal would snap them up so there would be no difference.
The board know this...

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Letting RvC go to Utd has damaged this club in several major and fundamental ways. The message that sent won't be shaken off easily. You couple that with a string of false dawns and even a good run won't shake the doubts. The atmosphere around this club stinks. For the past 3-4 years anyone who has been paying attention could have predicted the outcome of each season in advance - same goes for this season. So it must eventually get difficult to muster enthusiasm for the inevitable.

In fact why not do this.

Whew! We got 4th. Thank fuck for that, thought we were going to be caught and we would have been if the season went two games longer. So then, does anyone think Cazorla will stay? He says he loves the club - I think (hope) he'll stay. Word is Messi is coming, don't think it will happen but you never know. Roll on 2014.

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spot fucking on.

lets not forget our board have put money aside in the pot in case we dont make the top 4 and miss out on champions league revenue- it isnt a case of 'we're gonna invest in the squad and go for the premier league or european cup to ensure champions league revenue', its a case of 'we wont invest in the squad and if we dont make the top 4 it doesnt matter because we have money aside in the pot'.

that attitude stinks. its a sub-standard, defeatist attitude you'd expect at a club like marseille.

And also would the board please go and :ilt: themselves :good:

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

Yeah well. So's your face :coffee:

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Very very fucking immature, and so is your face.

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Originally Posted by dazthegooner

And also would the board please go and :ilt: themselves :good:

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Yes, I think the board killing themselves or being murdered, either is just as good, is fundamental to the progress of the club. I suspect it will have to be murder because it seems to me they think they are doing an amazing job. They boast about their failures enough, that's for sure.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Very very fucking immature, and so is your face.

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:hug:

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Originally Posted by milla

As long has he gets his 70k every week, he couldn't give a flyin fuck. :coffee:

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Correction 135k a week.

I don't think there is a question now the Wenger now has to go. The board should be making every effort to get guidiola and let Wenger retire.

Well it wouldnt take much to finish Hill Wood off. Just ply him with brandy and make him run round the pitch. He'd collapse in two seconds and probably explode

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Yes, I think the board killing themselves or being murdered, either is just as good, is fundamental to the progress of the club. I suspect it will have to be murder because it seems to me they think they are doing an amazing job. They boast about their failures enough, that's for sure.

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I think you'll find there's more chance of finding life on Mars than the board getting rid of Wenger forGardiola. The only Wenger is going anywhere is 1) he decides that he is too crap and doesnt renew his contract or 2) Usamanov makes a mad bid which Kroenke accepts (not entirely out of the question) and then Usmanov gets rid of Wenger

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Originally Posted by Fats

I don't think there is a question now the Wenger now has to go. The board should be making every effort to get guidiola and let Wenger retire.

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Exactly - probably even more. I dont know where Milla got her figure from. With his achievements on the pitch over the last 8 years, Wenger deserves every penny of the 7 million quid annual salary

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Originally Posted by ItsMe

Correction 135k a week.

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Originally Posted by Fats

I don't think there is a question now the Wenger now has to go. The board should be making every effort to get guidiola and let Wenger retire.

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Still pissed off today, what a fucking shambles we were Saturday night. I really really hate saf, but do you think any of his teams would put in a performance like that? Of course not! Would they even dare!? So many of united's players are very average yet that doesn't stop them from putting in a shift giving it their all.

The more I reflect AW is a very big problem that needs addressing. We saw a promising start with a clear influence from Steve Bould, but after a couple of months working with as #2 to seems AW has eroded that.

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Originally Posted by Gervinho's Forehead

Still pissed off today, what a fucking shambles we were Saturday night. I really really hate saf, but do you think any of his teams would put in a performance like that? Of course not! Would they even dare!? So many of united's players are very average yet that doesn't stop them from putting in a shift giving it their all.

The more I reflect AW is a very big problem that needs addressing. We saw a promising start with a clear influence from Steve Bould, but after a couple of months working with as #2 to seems AW has eroded that.

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Did we, all that happend was we defendedd well for a few games still leaking stupid goals which Bould is supposed to have cleaned up. Think its unfair to say Wenger has made bould poor its only been 8 games or so.

I think our defence is appalling. Bould has made absolutely no difference because Wenger is so arrogant he probably gives him two minutes with the defence at the end of training. The rest of the time the defence is probably learning to play tappy-tappy shit with the rest of the team

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

Did we, all that happend was we defendedd well for a few games still leaking stupid goals which Bould is supposed to have cleaned up. Think its unfair to say Wenger has made bould poor its only been 8 games or so.

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Originally Posted by jelgoon

I think our defence is appalling. Bould has made absolutely no difference because Wenger is so arrogant he probably gives him two minutes with the defence at the end of training. The rest of the time the defence is probably learning to play tappy-tappy shit with the rest of the team

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TBF to bould he is not working with the best of defenders or keepers. Yeah Jenks/Gibbs/Merts have been awesome this season but our GK's have been terrible. like SWAYR said you can't coach shit out of shit tbh it is what it is. Mannone will never been world class and true to fact a quality GK should have been brought in.

It don't help TV5 seems to bomb up the pitch instead of staying in place. but like you say its more of less they are learning tippy tappy. Some need to learn the basics though.

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Originally Posted by jelgoon

I think our defence is appalling. Bould has made absolutely no difference because Wenger is so arrogant he probably gives him two minutes with the defence at the end of training. The rest of the time the defence is probably learning to play tappy-tappy shit with the rest of the team

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that's not right. the shape of the team is far better than previous seasons but individual mistakes keeping popping up, which is down to individual concentration. plus, years of haphazardness back there won't be rectified in 8 games.

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

that's not right. the shape of the team is far better than previous seasons but individual mistakes keeping popping up, which is down to individual concentration. plus, years of haphazardness back there won't be rectified in 8 games.

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Agreed, it looks a lot more organised but there's always a critical weakness somewhere. Right now it's a disaster of a keeper who has zero command over his box and whose decision making is comedy strip material. You want a back five, a back four isn't good enough. Arteta is doing his job in front of the defence, Merts and Jenks and even Gibbs for most part have been doing an okay job (because let's not get carried away). Vermaelen has been undisciplined though, just as he assumes the captaincy. It's so Arsenal, topsy turvy.

It's little bit objective but I would put a lot of the goals down to individual errors rather than systemic failure.

I think the goals v Olympiakos and West Ham were poorly defended, but most of the others involved some kind of error in judgement or handling.

Wouldn't have gotten us more than a point anyway. Pod has been much quieter of late, and I wonder whether he struggling to work off of Giroud. Gervinho on the right is like a different player, a shit one.

I think some things can be over analysed.

Sometimes a good goal is just that. The West Ham goal wasn't necessarily bad defending OR an individual error.

Every team in the league will say that any goal conceded could be avoided. But that's what it's all about.

Our problem is getting the basics right consistently, and not repeating the same mistakes over and over.

Problem wasn't defending on Saturday....it was just another gaff by a Keeper who is not good enough for this level. Szcehevehjkey on form, is decent enough....but when he's not, we have no adequate back up.

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Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm

I think some things can be over analysed.

Sometimes a good goal is just that. The West Ham goal wasn't necessarily bad defending OR an individual error.

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True, sometimes goals are unavoidable, and Diame's finish was excellent. If I were was Ramsey though, I would have been pretty disappointed with that.

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Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann

True, sometimes goals are unavoidable, and Diame's finish was excellent. If I were was Ramsey though, I would have been pretty disappointed with that.

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IF you were Aaron Ramsey, what part of your game wouldn't you be disappointed with?

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