Very few people got banned from here. You pretty much have to be a twat of epic proportions to manage it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
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Very few people got banned from here. You pretty much have to be a twat of epic proportions to manage it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Which does beg an obvious question....Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw
Because I'm one of the mods.Quote:
Originally Posted by LDG
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Zim you were the original standard bearer for the anti-Wenger argument. So who were you paying off to avoid being banned?Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
Maybe there should be a confessions page for the first time we started saying Wenger should go.
I've always been pretty fluid, I don't think it's unreasonable to state that fans are fickle and when we are going through a good spell I don't think about him slinging his hook that much.
Think the first time I remember saying I wanted him to go was about five years ago, coincided with the home defeat to Spurs and him shifting around on his seat in his sleeping bag jacket like he had a tape worm.
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Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
A couple of seasons back, when we won the first FA Cup. I thought that was a good time for him to go out on a high, and maintain the respect that he deserves for his services to the club.
There is a difference between me thinking he's a "cunt", and what I think is best for the club, however.
I still hold no ill will toward him. I just think it's time for something new, especially as the same mistakes keep getting made. I would like nothing more than for him to prove me wrong and win us the title. I would put my hands up, say I got it wrong, and celebrate it. Will that happen? Unlikely, because I just think we'll make the same mistakes again....it might be next week, it might be after an eight game winning streak, but my money is on us blowing it, when we have it in our hands to win the thing. All previous evidence points to that being the likely outcome....
Well at least we can say with a degree of certainty that it won't be next week but for me your post expresses how I feel.
I have no confidence that Wenger can deliver us the big prizes nor do I think he is doing everything in his power t do it. It is that which annoys me most. He is an exceptionally gifted man but his Achilles heel is his stubbornness in persisting with a philosophy that is repeatedly failing him and the Club. He desperately needs to surround himself with a strong and capable team that can effectively challenge him and support him, particularly in areas where he has weaknesses. The buck would still stop with him and that is what great leaders do, but we know he never will.
He will never become a hate figure for me no matter how much I want him to go because I simply can never forget what he did for this club for the first three quarters of his tenure.
I think it was the back end of 10/11 that I really felt Wenger was losing it and I personally thought it would be best to make a change. We lost the League Cup final and bombed out of the title race only winning something like 2 of our last 10 games. That summer we lost Fabregas and Nasri and started the season with a depleted squad and sunk to an all time low with the 8-2 loss. Then we went on that mad trolley dash and I thought Wenger didn't really have a grasp of things anymore.
I love the bloke and I would happily feast on humble pie should we win the league again under him. I don't see it but I live in hope.
Any yet you're still here :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
As Gary said: bullshit. Cripps was acually rapidly pro-Wenger for much of the time he was on here and was repeatedly banned for twattery. Our mistake was to keep letting him back. We learned our lesson in the end when we realised he wasn't going to learn his.
The Birmingham League Cup Final, think that was the first time I really snapped with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Like you, my position about him is fairly fluid and I don't think that's fickle - it is if it's just based on one off games but over time you get a different feel about the team.
Right now after two Cups I think he's earned the right to be our manager this season at least. If we don't properly challenge this year then I think he should go.