Change we need.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Like your witch hunt against the board and uncompromising stance against greed in the game? When it comes to Wenger, your approach changes and there are a few contridictions. I'm just calling it out and not asking you to do anything.

You want me to compare what Kroenke has done for Arsenal with what Wenger has done for Arsenal? Greed in the game is from top to bottom and yes I'm against it. As I said elsewhere, we are not connected to any of them any more, they are in a different world. Even so, all you are calling out is my unwillingness to condemn Wenger outright. When he fucks up on the pitch I say so. When he fucks up in the transfer market I say so. But I will not criticise him on every point regardless of the circumstances. There's a danger here of the Wenger out at all costs lobby over-cooking things and ending up with the opposite outcome.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Why do you assume the only alternative to total and outright condemnation is fellatio?

You just lost me right there.. didnt read the rest.

:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

You want me to compare what Kroenke has done for Arsenal with what Wenger has done for Arsenal? Greed in the game is from top to bottom and yes I'm against it. As I said elsewhere, we are not connected to any of them any more, they are in a different world. Even so, all you are calling out is my unwillingness to condemn Wenger outright. When he fucks up on the pitch I say so. When he fucks up in the transfer market I say so. But I will not criticise him on every point regardless of the circumstances. There's a danger here of the Wenger out at all costs lobby over-cooking things and ending up with the opposite outcome.

We have been on a wane for ages now and it was before Kronke joined the Board. But yeah, maybe you are right, I am picking on the fact that you are taking it easy on Wenger because you hold nothing back when it comes to the players and Board members. Check these quotes out from Wenger.

On the ticket price hike.

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Wenger accepts placing an extra burden on supporters in difficult financial times is far from ideal, but one of the avenues the club have to explore as they aim to stay competitive in an unbalanced market.
'We try in every single way to increase our income to fight with the other clubs, but the resources will always be down to three different incomes - media, sponsorship and gate receipts,' said Wenger, who is set to compromise the team's usual pre-season build-up by going on a lucrative overseas tour this summer.
'We tried to keep the [ticket] increase as low as possible, and we spoke about that at the board meeting. Unfortunately the expenses always go up.
'We do not master the expenses because the expenses are dictated by our opponents.
'That is why the [UEFA] financial fair play [rules] are so important because we are pushed into a situation that we do not master because if our opponents do not respect the financial fair play, our expenses will always go up and we can only reflect that as low as possible on the ticket prices.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...et-prices.html

There is no reason for him to come out and defend the ticket price hike when Gazidis was under fire from the fans. He didn't have go as far this and make excuses as to why it was necessary. Again, think about the bonuses and pay rises staff paid out this year.

On our resources.

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Gazidis claimed there was more money to spend on transfers than Wenger has chosen to use in recent summers, but the manager said: “My job is to deliver a team with the resources we have, and I have never complained about that.

"I want a club to pay players from its own resources, there is no shame in that."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...s-back-1399631

He's openly saying that he is proud and willing to stand by this model. Making out that he's being gagged and all will be revealed when he's gone is nonsense. Even if it was revealed that he wasn't getting full support, he's on record supporting the model that dupes the fans. Countless times he has backed them and he has this 'has the world gone mad' type attitude when questioned about the set up here. He speaks with conviction when questioned about our model. Far from a pawn or guy simply doing what he's told as you try to make out when explaining his actions.

And let's not forget Wenger's that jab from Wenger about 'patients being a sign of intelligent people' after the PHW 'silly people' shit storm.

I get what your saying about the dangers of what would happen if Wenger left, but that same sort of argument is presented when players leaves and you're hearing none of it. That's why I've got a problem with your defence of Wenger. He sanctions the sales of key players and backs dubious board policies openly. Thing won't get any better under his rein. Things could possibly get worse if he left, but there is a possibility that they could get better a under coach that knows how to sort a team out and has vision for this club.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Why do you assume the only alternative to total and outright condemnation is fellatio?

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Originally Posted by fakeyank

You just lost me right there.. didnt read the rest.

:rolleyes:

It means "blow job" in the US.

Try googling it if you get stuck.

men find it hard to multi task.

Want change, i vote for Obama :ninja:

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

men find it hard to multi task.

Sure, but he shouldn't need his keyboard finger.