Mikel Arteta Thread

I can't really think of any DMs who do that.

Where he used to play, or how some think he should play isn't relevant. The only thing that's relevant is the position he's playing for us now, and he's been outstanding in the role.

In a more grown up gooner forum I read, you won't believe the praise that Arteta and Ramsey get. I don't think anyone is under any illusions on that side; Arteta is not a world class player, he's too slow to cover enough ground and although he's excellent at reading the game and making interceptions, he's not quite Gilberto level either. He has however been the main reason for our improved defensive record because he's the most selfless player on our side; his job has been to clean up everyone else's mess, take a booking, cover their positions while Cazorla, Wilshere, Ramsey, Gibbs have little idea how to limit opposition attacks.

We have been relying on him too much and I'd love to see a more athletic player with arteta's attitude and discipline to shut down opponents. Ramsey has done very well in the last 10-15 games too but again even with him we're lacking some physical presence in the centre. I'm not sure Fellaini's the answer. Seems to be another jack of all trades type. Rather spend the big money on a specialist DM that ticks all the boxes required. Need a Flamini type of player as the holding mid. Wouldn't mind cayabe.

Arteta. :haha:

We've really lost hope; consigned to mediocrity and averageness.

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Originally Posted by Josh_Gooner

Arteta. :haha:

We've really lost hope; consigned to mediocrity and averageness.

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Yeah but enough about your posts and face haha lol

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Originally Posted by Syn

In a more grown up gooner forum I read, you won't believe the praise that Arteta and Ramsey get. I don't think anyone is under any illusions on that side; Arteta is not a world class player, he's too slow to cover enough ground and although he's excellent at reading the game and making interceptions, he's not quite Gilberto level either. He has however been the main reason for our improved defensive record because he's the most selfless player on our side; his job has been to clean up everyone else's mess, take a booking, cover their positions while Cazorla, Wilshere, Ramsey, Gibbs have little idea how to limit opposition attacks.

We have been relying on him too much and I'd love to see a more athletic player with arteta's attitude and discipline to shut down opponents. Ramsey has done very well in the last 10-15 games too but again even with him we're lacking some physical presence in the centre. I'm not sure Fellaini's the answer. Seems to be another jack of all trades type. Rather spend the big money on a specialist DM that ticks all the boxes required. Need a Flamini type of player as the holding mid. Wouldn't mind cayabe.

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Most Definitely....

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Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm

Yeah but enough about your posts and face haha lol

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Arteta/10.

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Syn

In a more grown up gooner forum I read, you won't believe the praise that Arteta and Ramsey get.

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I've never heard anything but praise for Arteta from media pundits and analysts too.

But irregardless of which side of the fence you fall, the side that rates him or the side where all the mongs live, the fact is that his old knee injury and age are catching up with him. Succession planning needs to begin this summer if possible.

Gonalons and Illarramendi I reckon are unlikely and I would not be surprised if another leftfield solution happened here.

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I've never heard anything but praise for Arteta from media pundits and analysts too.

But irregardless of which side of the fence you fall, the side that rates him or the side where all the mongs live, the fact is that his old knee injury and age are catching up with him. Succession planning needs to begin this summer if possible.

Gonalons and Illarramendi I reckon are unlikely and I would not be surprised if another leftfield solution happened here.

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:haha:

Oh sweet irony.

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Originally Posted by Josh_Gooner

:haha:

Oh sweet irony.

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mong face

There's no-one better
Than Mikel Arteta

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Originally Posted by Letters

There's no-one better
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mong face

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Artekkers :bow:

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

El Statinho.

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Exactly

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Originally Posted by Josh_Gooner

Arteta. :haha:

We've really lost hope; consigned to mediocrity and averageness.

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best post in here tbh

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:haha:

Oh sweet irony.

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Irregardless is a word, just not commonly used. :doh:

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Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...

Irregardless is a word, just not commonly used. :doh:

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:lol:

Ok.

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Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...

Irregardless is a word, just not commonly used. :doh:

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In fairness, it's not commonly used because it's commonly assumed to be wrong, seeing as it's a mispronunciation/bastardisation of "irrespective" or "regardless". However, I agree with that original poster's point so I'm gonna say he can use which ever words he likes.

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Not trying to nit-pick at all here....but who do you think would be better at the role?

Quite clearly there are more talented players out there, but in that role, and with the game we play? There can only be a handful of players able to sustain that level of consistency accross a whole season.....

We're talking about a position where the player has to be pretty exceptional. It demands touch, eye for a pass (long, short, sideways, forwards), ability to read the game, tackle, set the tempo, workrate.....it is the hardest position on the pitch to play.

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I thought Song was exceptional when he sat back and kept it simple. Diaby has had some decent games playing deep as well. I remember a few where he and Song were just dominant in the middle but obviously that combo would never last. It’s not an expensive problem especially if we’ve been able to play Arteta back there. It’s not his natural role. At the moment, we’re really light in the middle and rarely boss the park like we used to with our passing. Nobody in the middle is setting the tempo. Rosicky is the only player that seems to be able to do it and when he’s on his game, will work his socks off to close down an opponent. It’s not all down to Arteta but something has to change in the middle next season. Either a dramatic personal improvement or we look to the transfer window to solve the problem. For me, Arteta, Ramsey and Wilshere will have to push on next season.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...ting-time.html

spoken like a true captain

Arteta :bow:
Arteta's hair :bow:

Great player.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...for-Spain.html

Surprised he didn't get a call up back when he was decent at Everton.

No chance now though as he himself admits

Yes me too, best chance he had when he was at Everton, was a pretty decent creative player. Not so suited to his current role and will never get a call up as he doesn't stand out in that role.

Even as a creative player he wouldn't have had a hope in hell of getting picked.

When at Everton he did, Spain weren't as good back then and he was very good, never happened though. Won't happen now, particularly not in the position he plays now where let's face it he's understandably not been that great.

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When at Everton he did, Spain weren't as good back then and he was very good, never happened though. Won't happen now, particularly not in the position he plays now where let's face it he's understandably not been that great.

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He's a great player tbh....:haha:

No, he wouldn't. Spain have always had mass amounts of talent in midfield, even when they haven't been winning tournaments - when he moved to Everton, Xavi and Iniesta were heavily involved (Iniesta's first big season in his case) for Barcelona then.

Personally, I really don't understand the enmity Arteta seems to get, for where he plays now.

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No, he wouldn't. Spain have always had mass amounts of talent in midfield, even when they haven't been winning tournaments - when he moved to Everton, Xavi and Iniesta were heavily involved (Iniesta's first big season in his case) for Barcelona then.

Personally, I really don't understand the enmity Arteta seems to get, for where he plays now.

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its called wumming :good:

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

its called wumming :good:

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Pretty much.

He's put in two consistently good seasons for us. One of the first names on the teamsheet.

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Originally Posted by ollie the optimist

its called wumming :good:

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Not really, it's called not being that good when played out of position :good:

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Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga

Not really, it's called not being that good when played out of position :good:

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He's WUMming.

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He's WUMming.

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Pretty much.

He's been very average for two seasons and if not for the fact we have noone else to play there because Wenger doesn't want to sign a DM he wouldn't be playing there.

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Pretty much.

He's been very average for two seasons and if not for the fact we have noone else to play there because Wenger doesn't want to sign a DM he wouldn't be playing there.

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Depends how you measure it. Statistically he's been way above average, one of the very best in Europe. Creatively he's been below average. But he plays in a pretty dire team of course.

while arteta was playing as dm, our defence improved to become the second best defence in the league. thats not average

We were awful defensively the season before last, he played then. Guess it wasn't his fault.

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We were awful defensively the season before last, he played then. Guess it wasn't his fault.

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you mean the one with alex song playing as dm? yeah thanks for proving my point

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you mean the one with alex song playing as dm? yeah thanks for proving my point

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He still played and from memory he didn't offer anything coming forward so he must have been helping his fellow defenders.

Stupid decision the play him as DM, what next play Walcott in goal?

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you mean the one with alex song playing as dm? yeah thanks for proving my point

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:lol:

Boom.

2-0 Giroud. But he seriously lucked out there. He should have been in the box for the first cross. Rebounds out and he whacks it. Good finish but awful positional play again.

EDIT; And before anyone says I have posted this in the wrong thread, not so, I meant to post it here for reasons I'll keep to myself.