Don't know if it's been said, but Sol Campbell is training with us.
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Don't know if it's been said, but Sol Campbell is training with us.
That's our CB issue resolved then. His presence will be like a new signing.
Arsene must be quite serious about Jagielka....this is being reported in quite a few places....I think this one could be done by mid next week if there is any truth in it. Everton are broke and they won't get a better offer for him than this.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...-defender.html
Arsenal closing in on Phil Jagielka after submitting new bid for Everton defender.
Arsenal are attempting to clinch a deal for Everton centre-back Phil Jagielka after submitting a new bid of around £15 million. Emirates bound: Phil Jagielka could be heading for Arsenal forllowing a second, improved bid.
Arsène Wenger, the Arsenal manager, has also made it known to Barcelona president Sandro Rosell that he wants the uncertainty that has engulfed his captain, Cesc Fabregas, to be resolved by Sunday evening. Barcelona are well aware of Arsenal’s £40 million valuation and Wenger has made it clear that he will not allow the Fabregas situation to continue to overshadow his own pre-season preparations.
If Barcelona do not come up with an acceptable bid, he will expect Fabregas to commit himself to Arsenal for another season.
Arsenal hope to draw a definitive line under the saga as early as Monday and certainly before their members’ day for fans at the Emirates Stadium next Thursday.
Wenger, having launched a renewed attempt to sign Jagielka, remains hopeful that a deal can be completed within 48 hours. Arsenal had a £10 million offer for Jagielka rejected last week and it is understood that the new offer is worth some £5 million more than that.
Everton, though, are believed to value Jagielka at more like £18 million and the two clubs were still in negotiations yesterday.
Jagielka signed a four-year contract in March and is regarded by David Moyes, the Everton manager, as one of the club’s most important players.
Arsenal also failed with a £12 million bid for Jagielka last summer and, at Everton, there is a sense that the 28 year-old’s value should have risen following a season in which he has become established in the England squad.
Moyes has previously shown that he will not allow his best players to leave without a considerable fight. Manchester City eventually had to pay £22 million to sign Joleon Lescott from Everton in 2009.
However, Everton have their own financial pressures and it is thought that Moyes would largely need to fund new arrivals this summer with player sales.
Wenger’s interest in Jagielka underlines his desire to recruit a defender who is both experienced and established in the Premier League.
Other slightly younger options include Bolton’s Gary Cahill and Blackburn’s Chris Samba, but Jagielka has emerged as Wenger’s clear preference.
Cahill is understood to have a release clause of £17 million but, given that he has only year left on his contract, Arsenal would be reluctant to match that fee.
Samba said on Wednesday that he had ambitions to play in the Champions League but would not speak specifically about Arsenal.
Wenger is also keen to push through a deal for Spain winger Juan Mata, although the indications from Valencia are that they would expect Arsenal to pay an up-front fee of around £17.5 million rather than accept a lower initial price.
Arsenal also have an interest in Joel Campbell, 19, a striker who plays in Costa Rica with Saprissa, although he may be loaned back out and would very much be a signing for the longer term.
While the recruitment of a new centre-back is a priority regardless of who leaves, Wenger’s decisions over new midfielders or strikers will largely be shaped by whether Fabregas is sold to Barcelona.
For that reason, the Mata deal has emerged as less of an immediate priority than a new centre-back. Nicklas Bendtner and Emmanuel Eboué are also both likely to leave this summer. Bendtner has held talks with a number of clubs but is now close to joining Sporting Lisbon for a deal worth around £9 million while Eboué is expected to be sold to Galatasaray.
that's also true. i've thought that we'd get another cb at least, so if mata came too that would surely get a lot of people excited. an additional striker of good quality would be the icing on the cake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ach
that Wenger is pushing for Jagielka..made a 15m bid according the the telegraph, and we've bid for Mata...around 17 mill which will be accepted.
Yah, we spent 8m on Theo, 2m on Denilson, 5m on Diaby, 6m on Adebayor, 10m apiece on Rosicky and Eduardo whilst seeing Vieira and Henry go out for more money, I don't think that's indicative of building to win trophies the same season as the purchase but to develop for a few years along the line. I'm sure Wenger was trying to build the best team for the time with what funds he had but also balancing it with building a better team for the future, we wouldn't have handed back a trophy if we'd won one and similarly I'm also sure fans expectations weren't instantly dimmed but after a few hits and once you actually took a look at the stupid money being thrown around and the restrictiveness of the stadium debt you soon saw that we'd be either challenging in a few years or not at all (still debatable which way it's going to go now, and lord is it debated :d).Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
I think our transfer policy hasn't seen a major overhaul, I agree there but we're definitely spending more on wages and with much of that initial squad now either developed or gone we have, hopefully, a better mix of experience to youth than we did have and so can spend it in different areas and afford to keep top players on top wages (for us, anyway).
Course it's not okay to tell a fan to shut up and back greedy bastards, pointing out that those bastards might not be greedy and proposing alternative reasoning, however, is.
Wouldn't be surprised if the younger unknown brother was our main target and we're only getting Eden Hazard to convince him to comeQuote:
Arsenal are preparing a bid for both Lille playmaker Eden Hazard and his younger brother Thorgan, who plays for the French side's rivals Lens.Full story: CaughtOffside.com
are we going to sell Arshavin if we get Mata? If so, I'd be celebrating...adding to that also the offloading of Bendy and Eboue...
That said we still have to sign another LB as we can't cope with Gibbs and Traoré, another CF as Chamakh can't deputise even my granda, let alone RVP and maybe another CM as I predict Diaby will be out for most of the season and Song will be breathless after 2 months...
i dont think wenger would want to sell a player that gave us 16 assists last season
Arshavin stays. . .gets another season to prove that tubsters can play the beautiful game. . . .the only ones to leave are the ones that have already been mentioned. . .that means Diaby stays! hes such a waste, he can truly awesome in the middle when hes in the mood but it just dont happen enough which I suppose is the cancer of the current squad because they all suffer from the same sickness, not being in the mood.. . .that is what Wenger needs to soet out quick time!
Jags and maybe one more CB in will see Verms shift over because the names mentioned are all starters but I wont be surprised if its only Jags then Kos gets the nod. . .Squeezy can gtfo to domeone like Watford
keep arshavin. a bit of competition may actually force the fat cunt to start working harder.
yeah yeah yeah (cough) bullshitQuote:
Originally Posted by Sirjackofwilshere
yet more lies to keep the masses quiet at the weekend , the club are so transparent these days its a joke
seems strange all this is happening now eh, i thought we were in the waiting period
all to go quiet and none of these names signing after the emirates cack
Sound of a million people's bubbles being burst. . . . .ta for that Fats. . . .excuse while I just go outside to jump off the nearest bridgeQuote:
Originally Posted by Fats
lol dont do that fella its not worth it, we dont support spurs for feck sakeQuote:
Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over
Where did i ever say that, stop quoting what you want. never said the fans should shut up and supposrt it i said zimm should stfu r sing a diffrent tune thats all i meant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
he hates wenger fine but do we need to hear ir everyDay?.
I think you're right. If they can slink through the pre-season with their wallets locked behind their financial chastity belts and get to the season kick-off they probably assume the fans will fall in line regardless. And face it, they'll be right. They'll be in trouble if Lesbian and Cesc leave in the last few minutes of the transfer window though. Or is that the plan too? Poor loves would be left high and dry with no chance to spend the big fat fees - they'd have to bank the money instead, pay off more of the debt and suffer yet another rise in their share prices.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fats
Here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
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Thats your own problem then, why the hell would he leave or get sacked just because he ain't meeting your goals. do you think anyone in the club gives a shit what you or me think no way.
end of the day Arsene is here for 3 more seasons at least wheather we like it or not instead of moaning like a bitch every day man the fuck up or shut the fuck up and get behind the team.
If not go to hell or worse go support Chelsea.
still ain't show mean shit tbh, i said he should get behind the team nothing about the manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
at least its niceto here wew putting a bit of pressure on Barca tbh, the bolded bit seems like deja vu tbhQuote:
Arsenal chairman Peter Hill-Wood has warned Barcelona to make their minds up over Cesc Fabregas quickly or they will have no chance of signing him.
Barca's pursuit of the Gunners skipper has developed into a protracted transfer saga and Hill-Wood is keen for the matter to be resolved.
While Arsene Wengerhttp://static.lingospot.com/spot/image/spacer.gif has always made it clear he hopes to keep the Spanish midfielder, the chairman admits a deal could be struck if the European champions reach their valuation, which is thought to be £40million.
However, he insists the two clubs are still a long way apart and has told Barca they will miss out on Fabregashttp://static.lingospot.com/spot/image/spacer.gif if they do not act soon.
"They have been messing about for a year-and-a-half now and they have got to make up their minds," Hill-Wood said in the Daily Star.
"The ball is in their court. They have made one bid of around £26m and another rather tentative one.
"If they want to buy the player they are going to have to pay the right price - and when you look at what is being paid elsewhere I don't think what we are asking is at all unreasonable."
Asked whether the time was approaching when the Morth Londoners would call off talks, Hill-Wood added: "We are getting close to that."
Jagielka bid
Hill-Wood also confirmed the Gunners were actively looking to strengthen their squad and had lodged a bid with Evertonhttp://static.lingospot.com/spot/image/spacer.gif for Phil Jagielka.http://static.lingospot.com/spot/image/spacer.gif
It emerged last week that the Toffees had rejected a proposal of around £10million for the defender, with reports suggesting they want around £17million.
"We have made a bid for him but they didn't think it was enough," Hill-Wood said. "It is very busy but nothing is actually happening.
"We are trying to buy a few players but it isn't going to happen overnight."
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...066519,00.html
"it is very busy but nothing is actually happening"
I find that statement very odd, surely nothing is going to happen unless we stop fucking about and be decisive with our business dealings?
He was talking about all the civil servants reading this web site.Quote:
Originally Posted by Save me Jeebus!
Then they can use the old "we didnt have time to buy replacements" these clowns have lied so much in the past it will take a hell of a lot of work to make me believe them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I would love them to prove me wrong, in fact I would beg them so but for the last 4-5 seasons they havent so no need to hold our breath.
We will all be pleased to see us spend on quality(and not just for the sake of it, although I dont quite understand what that means)and give the squad the depth and ability to push forward in the later stages of the season.
But Zimm wasn’t criticising the team, just Wenger and his policies. He wasn’t talking about the team or specific players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
Anyway, you’ve cleared up your point, you’re tired of the negativity. Fine. But the ‘sit down and shut up’ and ‘go support another team’ type posts get on my nerves and you made out as if the fans should just accept the BS. I know that’s not your stance, but that’s how it came across with your first post. We’re all Gooners here.
On a brighter note, I hope we’re serious about signing these players. It better not be a stunt for the Emirates. If we lose Cesc and Nasri in one window it would all be forgotten if we signed three major players. Heck, I’d even be willing to give Wenger more time to get this team settled and ready for the title challenge. Going into the season as we are wouldn’t be acceptable. Losing Cesc or/and Nasri definitely isn’t acceptable.
Spot on dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
People keep having a pop at Zimm for saying the same thing but dont we all.
We all have our points but just because others feel its negative so bloody what. The team is negative and nothing positive has happened for seasons so deal with it. We all have frustrations that need to be vented.
Wenger has spouted the same shite for years anyhoo
I for one agree with Zimm on most things and can see his point because mine is the same. A few fans see this coming a long long time ago. I said a while back that we have not won anything since every player he inherated has left. Coincidence?? maybe, but maybe not. Sell by date has passed and we desperately need to move on.
Agree and Zim is entitled to his view tbh, i agree with both of you on AW id rather he left too, but he is not so all i can do is get behind him while he is in charge of the club and hope for the best(don't mean i'm happy with it.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fats
Agreed, no more bullshit from those at the top lets see some action for once.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
No. We don't. What would be the point of saying the same thing over again? Post count?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fats
If Arsene Wenger and Arsenal keep producing the same shit over and over again every season then things will be repeated tbh.
Credit to the club though for trying to fuck up differently last season and succeeding in it. Gave us something different to talk about
Biglia would cost us £7m and Dharmesh Sheths sources have said we are very interested in him and he wants to come to the Premiership
Dharmesh Sheth. :lol:
I'm still waiting on us to sign Matuidi.
Biglia :bow:
A Must Get™.
NQ will be ecstatic.
We're signing him, just have to wait for the waiting period to be over.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
We're not.Quote:
Originally Posted by ItsMe
Because he's already signed for PSG.
Yay.
Meh, it's a smokescreen....that's just being reported so someone doesn't nab him when they find out Wenger is afer him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
Damn, that smokescreens getting good.
We even persuaded Aguero to go to Manchester in order to put everyone off his imminent signing in a swap deal with Squillaci.
What is Wenger waiting for ffs? If we miss out on Mata, Wenger should just fuck off.I repeat, who the hell is McCarthy? Aint he the one Rooney elbowed? Other than that, has he ever done anything on the pitch?PHW better be right. Those 3 would be greatQuote:
Tottenham have tabled a bid of around £22m for Arsenal target Juan Mata. The Valencia winger is open to a move to the Premier League and Gunners boss Arsene Wenger is a fan of the 23-year-old but he is yet to make a formal offer.Full story: Daily MirrorLiverpool are watching midfielder James McCarthy's contract talks at Wigan closely and will move for him if they go badly and the Latics show any inclination of wanting to sell. McCarthy has also been linked with Arsenal and Chelsea. Full story: Daily MirrorArsenal chairman Peter Hill-Wood has confirmed the club are working on deals to bring in 'a few' new players with Phil Jagielka (Everton), Juan Mata (Valencia), and Christopher Samba (Blackburn) believed to be their top priorities.Full story: Metro
Nah Mata should be ours 2 reasonsQuote:
Originally Posted by Ach
1 he wants cl footie
2 where would he play for the spuds since they have modric and vdv.
Mata deal should be done soon you feel even our chairman said it mostly
1) Haven't seen him say that, have you got a quote where he says it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner
2) He's a winger and neither Modric nor VDV play there, plus it won't stop Spurs signing him...they seem to have money to burn.
The price tag will be an issue for us, 20 million for a player can't see us spending that kind of cash, hope I'm wrong.
£15m for McCarthy? :lol:
Christ that's expensive.... done deal then.