Wasn't as bad as last season but bad none the less. Wenger out.
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Wasn't as bad as last season but bad none the less. Wenger out.
Wenger out
Moyes In
Wenger out
Atkinson just had to make the right first decision once in his measly life and we mght have had a chance.
As it is we got well and truly WUMgered.
Well past his sell by date. It must be so soul destroying, as a player to have Wenger as your manager. Unless your name is Diaby.
I've wanted him gone since 2008. He is dead to me. Just have to wait it out. Only 2 more years now
Nothing to say.
We have good players. There comes a point when you have to realise that there are too many class players to blame them.
It's the fcuking manager.
Clueless and brainless. We will never go anywhere with Wenger in charge. You'd have hoped after winning the FA cup he'd have discovered the hunger again and addressed our glaring weaknesses. He didn't. Our competitors strengthened. And he played a direct part in that.
Fabregas would walk into any team in the world and can play in any midfield position. He's keeping Arteta and let Cesc go.
It's not the team or the players. It's the manager.
3 more years of this shit. Never going to change.
I admired him. Last season it became indifference. And now it genuinely saddens me to see Arsenal with Wenger in charge. Especially given we have great players just stagnating and going backwards.
Don't know how to change it other than we go out of the CL places.
Not as suicidal as last year but just lacking in quality up front thanks to a simple but effective approach from Chelsea - cede possession to us, cut off the supply line and pick your moments on the counter. It was essentially a lightweight poking jabs at a heavyweight who barely flinched, then delivered a KO in one quick move.
Oh so predictable, I'm not sure even Mourinho can believe how easy it is for him against a Wenger team.
2 wins from 7 games. :lol:
Lame.
Wenger lost it in the same way he has lost all the others. And the next time we play them he'll do exactly the same. And the time after, and the time after that. Played right into their hands, played the exact game they would have expected and planned for. Chavs didn't even have to play, they just sat back and let us do that tippy tappy shit for 90 mins, then hit us on the break. AS USUAL. Nothing learned, nothing changed, nothing different, same outcome.
SUBS WERE A FUCKING JOKE.
Cazorla's face when he was subbed painted a picture.Quote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
I cleverly saved 2 hours of my life by not watching it, as I knew we'd lose.
That's the depressing thing. There's no disgrace losing there but it's depressing going there believing we have no chance of getting anything and, sure enough, it pans out exactly as expected. With the players we have we should be going into these games feeling we have some chance.
Will we ever beat a top club in the league?
It's quite impressive really how we all could have predicted how this match would pan out. Right down to the fine details.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Wenger could get a cold and have to stay in bed for matchday. It could happen. But that's about the only chance we have.Quote:
Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
With Wenger in charge, never and I hope it stays that way because I hope the humiliation will get to him and he'll leave.
Cock.
Horrible way to go into the break.
2 wins out of 7 is not acceptable.
There's no point in sky actually showing these matches live anymore, just save your money and play a recording from any one of the last few seasons.
Guys got a thick skin like a rhino. He will just keep collecting his measly 8 million pounds a year pay check and work hard to 'improve' our club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darknight02
I've got to the point to saying that I just can't blame Ozil for these performances. I mean you have a player who's confidence is shot anyway. He plays a super performance in his best position in a game and then is shunted immediately to his weakest.
Which manager does that? We all know. The specialist in failure.
Mourinho is the most spiteful prick in football. But amongst ourselves, do any of us disagree?
Easy for Chelsea: Cesc shines; Ozil struggles. What a surprise.
Nice one wenger, you utter, utter clown.
That's what pisses me off. Wenger is actually mercenary. I'll be so happy the day he leaves.Quote:
Originally Posted by fakeyank
He's become a cancer at the club.
And I used to be one of his biggest fans.
Predictable. He's a complete bufoon for leaving Ozil on and taking off our three hardest working players.
Also, when are we going to give up the ghost on Ozil? It's been over a year now and he's not getting any better.
Welbeck had another one of those games where I though we'd have been better off playing Giroud or Sango! He needs to get more involved with our play.
Na, Ozil can do one as well. He's a pro footballer on mega money. Just because he's managed by the nutty professor, doesn't mean he can get away with strolling around and not giving a flying fuck?Quote:
Originally Posted by Darknight02
Chelsea = manager who's a winner, winners mentality and plays Cesc in his best position and gives him the players and formation around him to shineQuote:
Originally Posted by RomfordPele
Arsenal = manager who's a loser, lost the fight and will to win long ago, plays a rolls Royce player put of position, without the players to support him and kills a players heart and career in the process, how long before Alexis iron will and heart die out.
I agree. I'm far from giving Ozil an easy ride.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gooner23
But you give him to Mourinho and I guarantee he'll find a way to make him shine.
We are at a position now where new players actually won't improve us with who we have in charge. That's worrying.
Shit game. Shit ref. Shit approach, as ever. Oh, and shit subs.
Decided by two moments of excellent play, but we didn't lay a punch on them really.
If Wenger has no confidence in his own players, what's the point. No momentum or continued pressure on the opposition can be created with a conservative formation which allows none of the players to excel.
And absolutely no flexibility once again to see Ozil is playing poorly and should be hauled off. It's decided that Ozil will always play wherever, whenever so players playing well will be taken off to continue the status quo. Ox must also be sacrificed for senior players despite being an unpredictable threat. It required injuries for Wenger to play a game suited to our players on Wednesday. It will take the right 11 players left standing for him to stumble upon a correct shape again.
Gibbs, Cazorla and Sanchez did quite well. Even Flamini was OK, up against Atkinson.
Boring boring Arsenal. Only Sanogo can save us now.
We've been there a long time. It started with Arshavin . Another player ruined by WumgerQuote:
Originally Posted by Darknight02
The manager doesn't know what he's doing. Two superior number 10's on the field compared to Jack and shunts one in a deeper midfield position and the other to the right. Ozil won't play well under Wenger. It's been over a year and when a new signing has this long to adjust and nothing is ticking, they just fade out. If it weren't for his price tag, he'd end up like Gervinho or Pod at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darknight02
Just another five more losses against Chelsea in the league until Wenger is gone.
More often than not he's always one of the first candidates to be subbed but inexplicably ends up lasting the 90, it's just baffling. He's not effective in the slightest, I don't understand what Wenger sees in him to elevate him to his level of perceived importance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
A shell of a player, thanks to WUMger.
That part in bold is on the money. He was fortunate to discover the Kos and Merts partnership. It will take the same again for him to stop playing square pegs in round holes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
I do think Maureen would get more out of him. But Ozil's basic application was just not good enough today. Not wanting to scapegoat one player but we do need more from him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darknight02
The biggest problem with the club right now is Wenger though. How sad it has come to that.
Ozil has been played in the centre, with two busy wide man either side and Welbeck up top. It has worked a treat on both occasions. He's been played left where it has never worked.
Conclusion (if you are a stubborn old goat who can never, ever admit when he is wrong). Play him on the left.
Welbeck comes off a blinder against the Turks. Wenger isolates him against the most effective pair in the league and kills him completely by banning passes over 2 yards and insisting everything is played to feet. Not Welbeck's fault - has he suddenly decided not to try? Manager's fault 100%. Wenger has a habit of killing our momentum, whether it's throwing a minor cup game or inviting a loss in the CL once we've secured the runner-up spot.
Cazorla is the best player on the pitch, playing in his natural role for a change. Subbed. Rightly pissed. Another player's morale sunk. Cazorla also often looks like a lazy non-entity when isolated out on the flanks.
I'm just surprised Wenger plays Ches in goal - surely he could play DM? The result might be shit but try it 1,000 times and you never know.
We got Wengered and the chavs were there to pick up the easy 3 points.
Already signs of it with welbeck today, looking for the backwards pass when he should be driving forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
Probably got bollocked by wenger for putting the ball in the net three times on Wednesday - gifts the opposition possession from the kick off after all. (Gotta watch those possession stats, lad.)
Or we could play a ball he could run on to and use his pace against slower defenders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
As for Ozil - I don;t care if it is him, Wenger or a combination of the two - he has been utter garbage, the biggest disappointment signing I can remember.
We need to get rid - just the sight of him depresses me.
I have yet to see Ozil make an awesome game changer of a pass like the one Cesc delivered today. There hasn't been one moment of brilliance that justifies him staying on for the full 90+. I haven't seen a single pass from him that I think no one else on our team can produce. It's all basic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
The guy is garbage.
Hey! :angry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve French
We might scrape a draw in a couple of the home games.
I'm not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
I have to wholly disagree with you mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve French
Our two best performances this season have ironically coincided with Ozil in the middle.
What Wenger is unwilling to do is sacrifice players for the correct team balance and shape.
Play proper wingers on the wing, play aggressive ball winners in the middle and play your best creative player up top off the striker.
Having Carzola, Ozil, Wilshire, Ramsey, Arteta, Flamini all practically on the pitch at the same time is utterly pointless.
All you get is pointless passing, no runs into the box, and slow slow breaks.
This aint rocket science, but unfortunalty we have a uterlly clueless manager who rufuses to atcually take the time to balance his team.