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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Predictable. He's a complete bufoon for leaving Ozil on and taking off our three hardest working players.

    Also, when are we going to give up the ghost on Ozil? It's been over a year now and he's not getting any better.

    Welbeck had another one of those games where I though we'd have been better off playing Giroud or Sango! He needs to get more involved with our play.
    Or we could play a ball he could run on to and use his pace against slower defenders.

    As for Ozil - I don;t care if it is him, Wenger or a combination of the two - he has been utter garbage, the biggest disappointment signing I can remember.

    We need to get rid - just the sight of him depresses me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve French View Post
    Or we could play a ball he could run on to and use his pace against slower defenders.

    As for Ozil - I don;t care if it is him, Wenger or a combination of the two - he has been utter garbage, the biggest disappointment signing I can remember.

    We need to get rid - just the sight of him depresses me.
    I have to wholly disagree with you mate.

    Our two best performances this season have ironically coincided with Ozil in the middle.

    What Wenger is unwilling to do is sacrifice players for the correct team balance and shape.

    Play proper wingers on the wing, play aggressive ball winners in the middle and play your best creative player up top off the striker.

    Having Carzola, Ozil, Wilshire, Ramsey, Arteta, Flamini all practically on the pitch at the same time is utterly pointless.

    All you get is pointless passing, no runs into the box, and slow slow breaks.

    This aint rocket science, but unfortunalty we have a uterlly clueless manager who rufuses to atcually take the time to balance his team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnerrrrr View Post
    I have to wholly disagree with you mate.

    Our two best performances this season have ironically coincided with Ozil in the middle.

    What Wenger is unwilling to do is sacrifice players for the correct team balance and shape.

    Play proper wingers on the wing, play aggressive ball winners in the middle and play your best creative player up top off the striker.

    Having Carzola, Ozil, Wilshire, Ramsey, Arteta, Flamini all practically on the pitch at the same time is utterly pointless.

    All you get is pointless passing, no runs into the box, and slow slow breaks.

    This aint rocket science, but unfortunalty we have a uterlly clueless manager who rufuses to atcually take the time to balance his team.
    Do you think we couldn't get the same from Cazorla playing in middle instead of shunted out wide or further back as a CM? His two best performances for us doesn't come close to what it's like when Santi is on form and that's the problem for me.

    But I agree with a lot of what you've said. We've had the same problems in the past when he'd play Diaby or Eboue on the wings. He's even played Cesc and Denilson out wide just to try and fit all of his preferred players on the pitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnerrrrr View Post
    I have to wholly disagree with you mate.

    Our two best performances this season have ironically coincided with Ozil in the middle.

    What Wenger is unwilling to do is sacrifice players for the correct team balance and shape.

    Play proper wingers on the wing, play aggressive ball winners in the middle and play your best creative player up top off the striker.

    Having Carzola, Ozil, Wilshire, Ramsey, Arteta, Flamini all practically on the pitch at the same time is utterly pointless.

    All you get is pointless passing, no runs into the box, and slow slow breaks.

    This aint rocket science, but unfortunalty we have a uterlly clueless manager who rufuses to atcually take the time to balance his team.
    Agree with you about the clusterfuck that is our midfield. But those Ozil performances you mentioned weren't anything out of the ordinary. Any semi competent midfielder could have pulled them off.

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    Wenger's gameplan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve French View Post
    Or we could play a ball he could run on to and use his pace against slower defenders.

    As for Ozil - I don;t care if it is him, Wenger or a combination of the two - he has been utter garbage, the biggest disappointment signing I can remember.

    We need to get rid - just the sight of him depresses me.
    It's at that point. He's turning into our Veron/Torres. There gets to point where you have to cut ties. He hasn't got what it takes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    It's at that point. He's turning into our Veron/Torres. There gets to point where you have to cut ties. He hasn't got what it takes.
    Total nonsense. The bloke's a star player and world cup winner for the Germans. He was a great player for Madrid. Hasn't got what it takes? Utter bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Total nonsense. The bloke's a star player and world cup winner for the Germans. He was a great player for Madrid. Hasn't got what it takes? Utter bullshit.
    Then where are the performances to back that up, NQ? Where?

    He's not setting the world on fire for the German's either and their fans have quickly turned on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Then where are the performances to back that up, NQ? Where?

    He's not setting the world on fire for the German's either and their fans have quickly turned on him.
    No they haven't quickly turned on him - that was media bullshit.

    He's put in plenty of decent performances, two in the last few weeks when played centrally. Plenty more before that but this media hype has stuck and now the myth is cited as fact.

    But he hasn't had as much influence on games as he ought to have had, that's true enough. Being stuck wide hasn't helped. He's the ultimate luxury player, the guy who adds the icing to the cake if everything else is set up properly around him (like at Madrid).

    But you;re claiming he's garbage and not up to it - plainly that's bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    No they haven't quickly turned on him - that was media bullshit.

    He's put in plenty of decent performances, two in the last few weeks when played centrally. Plenty more before that but this media hype has stuck and now the myth is cited as fact.

    But he hasn't had as much influence on games as he ought to have had, that's true enough. Being stuck wide hasn't helped. He's the ultimate luxury player, the guy who adds the icing to the cake if everything else is set up properly around him (like at Madrid).

    But you;re claiming he's garbage and not up to it - plainly that's bullshit.
    Believe what you want on the German fan thing. I won't debate that.

    Decent performances aren't great performances and let's not even get into performances against top opposition even when played in his best position.

    Yes, am saying he's garbage because that's how he's playing. If he's up to the task, he'll prove me wrong. But how long does he need to get his act together?

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