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Phew!
Good to beat those shits for what seems like a long time.
Three points is three points. We need to step it up though when, we play the likes of Chelsea.
The more things seem to change, The more they stay the same.
S`hampton a bog average team and we were completely bereft of ideas how to beat them.
Wenger Out!
It's simply amazing how this fuck up has got away with performances like this for so long.
We have some good players, and Cazorla really is very underrated. Little genius of a player. Get somebody in who can re-motivate Ozil and use Alexis properly and will make the tough calls when it comes to ditching the dross and chasing top talent and we could break the cycle and go places.
Right now though, everyone (including those who will defend the man to the last for some reason) knows what the #1 problem at this club is.
Planned to perfection by Wenger.
Deserves a new contract.
It was almost like Koeman was still their manager. Everton is our acid test (depending on whether or not we decide to go up to Goodison Park with a midfield!)Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
LOL. Is that all you've got?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano
Wonderful
Wenger :bow:
That would be quite funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
If you weren't being serious. You aren't fooling anybody.
We have so much in common then :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Don't worry, with this post he'll be sacked by the end of the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
That's not bad for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
What I find interesting is that my decision to criticise Wenger at every opportunity has been met with hostility, whereas your decision to defend him at every opportunity is allowed a pass, well at least until very recently when everyone finally got bored with it.
Yes, I know, every defence is suffixed with... but I think he should be sacked.
Oh really?
No, not with this post. But maybe with 1 million more like it. And they will come. Because Wenger can't keep getting away with this.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
You'll serve justice eventually, even if it's by default with his death.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Yes, you banging on about it in virtually every post no matter what is starting to get on everyone's collective tits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
You know that's not true of courseQuote:
whereas your decision to defend him at every opportunity
Nor that.Quote:
is allowed a pass
:tiphat:
Nobody mentioned his death. Until now.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
It's not nearly as big as justice, that's a matter on an entirely different plane. It's much simpler than that. He's been serving up shit for years and now we are at a level where beating mid table teams has become more of an exercise in chance than planning. I guess what the "loyalists" are demanding is that we take each game as it comes and ignore the eternal sequence. Well no. This has become all about Wenger now and why is that? Because Wenger made it that way. Nobody else. Just Wenger.
His football stinks. His record stinks, unless consistently being an also-ran has suddenly become some sort of laudable achievement. Therefore, it is not unreasonable (after all this time) to point out that Wenger stinks. The odd 3 points on our way to another also-ran finish (and be honest, can you see a different outcome) makes no difference.
Cazorla :bow:.
Cech :bow:.
Koscielny :bow:.
Wenger :bow:.
Ox and Ozil were woeful. How long can you keep playing Ox in the hope he comes good? Everytime he does something decent, he ruins it with a shocking pass or cross. He's a liability and should only play if Alexis, Iwobi, Walcott, Welbz, Ramsey or The Jeff are unavailable.
It's a poor argument when you resort to telling people what they think. And you do it all the time. But of course, when you have no intention of considering the facts and instead wnat to play with conclusions alone then it makes perfect sense for you to behave this way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Meanwhile (and get used to this, not just from me but by more and more people) - Wenger Out!
As you phrased it above, it's a 'decision' on your part to speak of Wenger this way. Makes it sound more calculated and perhaps suggesting you don't really believe any of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Copy and paste sadly,two attempts on target at home say's it all really.
leave my tits out of it, not in their name ...they don't need you speaking on their behalfQuote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Oh, you mean in the grand scheme of things? You are correct, it's unimportant at that level. If you said, don't forget you are being thrown on the street today and you also have that Wenger Out post to make, then the latter would take a back seat.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
However, considering I still have an interest in Arsenal (just) and I am currently in a happy position to express that interest, my intention is to feed a small spoon of sugar to the zeitgeist. When the question, Should Wenger be Sacked?, achieves similar response to the question, "Do you think the sun is hot?", then I'll be satisfied. And when it gets to that level, and it will because nobody is making up Wenger's flaws and deficiencies, then Wenger will be sacked. Not even the board will be able to save him.
Once he's sacked, there can be a change at the club. Maybe not the massive change that is required, but any change is welcome. This is because, why? Obviously the monotony of the last decade. What's the point of sport when the outcome is entirely predictable? Some people say we could be worse off under a new manager. Well that's very difficult to believe considering who we have in charge now, but even if true - good. At least it will be different.
Which leaves the manner is which he is sacked. A few years ago I'd have said, gently. Now I don't care. If it has to be brutal then let it be brutal. That's because the man has made it very clear where he stands - in the ranks of the monied minority and against the fans. Just listen to what comes out of his mouth. He's an arrogant dickhead. I might be the same, but I don't insist on ruining the entertainment of thousands so I can have my way. Unless, of course, there are still some individuals out there who believe Wengerball is entertaining. We are over that myth now surely? Even the media is over it and they are the fools who prolonged it in the absence of a single shred of evidence.
So while I have the luxury of participating without major distraction - "Should Wenger be sacked?" Well DUH!
Wenger out!
Be careful. You might end up boring Letters too. And then he'll respond to every one of your posts, such will be his boredom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maestro
Feeling much better now,Wenger say's water boils at 100 degree's and we are just 1 degree off.
OK, not a great performance, but we did have two new players thrown on to start. Another three points to build on. Onwards and upwards.
I get it, you want Wenger out, Im all for change too, but its not happening now. From media I read, it does feel that there is more `feeling` that he `may` go at the end of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
But, personally, your continual negativity on almost every page of every thread gets a bit much.
Kos with a bicycle kick goal on his birthday! Mustafi looks decent too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
I thought Ox and Ozil were poor and we should have brought on Xhaka for Coquelin.
Perez didn't really get onto the game but looks like he has hustle and will work for it.
There is a mindless optimism thread if you need an escape from the reality Wenger has created.Quote:
Originally Posted by alexander
The lack of chances we're creating is worrying. We played with pace up front with Ox, Perez and Walcott but we didn't cause Southampton much problems. Even when switching to Iwobi and Sanchez, we didn't do much damage.
Chelsea next week..
on the plus side how many times do we play as abysmally as that and get three points?Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
everyone seemed to spend the game miscuing and not being able to read what the other person is doing
the performance was a bit like staying in a hotel and going down for breakfast where you've just woken up and circling the same buffet area two or three times because it hasn't registered with your sleep deprived mind what you want to eat.
God help us. We will bottle it as usual. I enjoyed the legends match last week better than this shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
Not worth judging Lucas in a game like this, playing with some second-stringers in a game where we had no flow and created little.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
If WUMger drops him for the next game after one stint up front as he has done with Podolski, Alexis, Theo and others, then we're just back to square one. If he does nothing for the next month or so, then fair enough, but if he's dropped for the conservative Giroud safety net, his purchase will be almost as pointless as Park's.
Bif will remain number one for the time being. He'll lead the line against PSG I reckon. Chelsea? I'm not so sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
It's the stick or twist question. Perez will need time to find his rhythm in the team but whether Wenger gives it time is another question. He was too eager to get Bif on and that was a worry. You're right, we will be back a square one soon if Bif scores coming off the bench. I don't even think Perez will have long up front and will probably find himself playing on the wing if that happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Splinter
I don't understand the furore over the penalty. In the Stoke v Man City game two penalties were awarded that would have been deemed 'soft' last season yet, crucially, they were correct decisions. Mike Dean gets a blooming medal for it.
When it happens to Arsenal, we're condemned for being lucky
Two weeks, we have Hull away next.Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
I don't think creating chances was the issue, shots on target when we have created the opportunities is though.
That's often been the case at home for a while now. It's become a right slog playing at the Emirates.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
It's both. The chances we create are few and far between. It was a really slow first half and we only started to put the pressure on after we conceded. The fans really got behind the team when we started pushing for the goal and once we scored, the team went back to business as usual.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
We didn't create much for our attackers. After the subs and after a draw looked likely, we upped the intensity a little. A chance fell to Bellerin which he hit wide past the post, Santi had a good chance that picked up a deflection, Giroud and Sanchez had the best chances but they came late on and weren't clear cut like Southampton's chances. Long really should have scored two. We coasted through most of that game.