Match reaction: Arsenal 2-1 Southampton

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Nobody mentioned his death. Until now.

It's not nearly as big as justice, that's a matter on an entirely different plane. It's much simpler than that. He's been serving up shit for years and now we are at a level where beating mid table teams has become more of an exercise in chance than planning. I guess what the "loyalists" are demanding is that we take each game as it comes and ignore the eternal sequence. Well no. This has become all about Wenger now and why is that? Because Wenger made it that way. Nobody else. Just Wenger.

His football stinks. His record stinks, unless consistently being an also-ran has suddenly become some sort of laudable achievement. Therefore, it is not unreasonable (after all this time) to point out that Wenger stinks. The odd 3 points on our way to another also-ran finish (and be honest, can you see a different outcome) makes no difference.

As you phrased it above, it's a 'decision' on your part to speak of Wenger this way. Makes it sound more calculated and perhaps suggesting you don't really believe any of this.

[topgun]

Copy and paste sadly,two attempts on target at home say's it all really.

[Maestro]

Yes, you banging on about it in virtually every post no matter what is starting to get on everyone's collective tits.

You know that's not true of course

Nor that.

leave my tits out of it, not in their name ...they don't need you speaking on their behalf

[Niall_Quinn]

As you phrased it above, it's a 'decision' on your part to speak of Wenger this way. Makes it sound more calculated and perhaps suggesting you don't really believe any of this.

Oh, you mean in the grand scheme of things? You are correct, it's unimportant at that level. If you said, don't forget you are being thrown on the street today and you also have that Wenger Out post to make, then the latter would take a back seat.

However, considering I still have an interest in Arsenal (just) and I am currently in a happy position to express that interest, my intention is to feed a small spoon of sugar to the zeitgeist. When the question, Should Wenger be Sacked?, achieves similar response to the question, "Do you think the sun is hot?", then I'll be satisfied. And when it gets to that level, and it will because nobody is making up Wenger's flaws and deficiencies, then Wenger will be sacked. Not even the board will be able to save him.

Once he's sacked, there can be a change at the club. Maybe not the massive change that is required, but any change is welcome. This is because, why? Obviously the monotony of the last decade. What's the point of sport when the outcome is entirely predictable? Some people say we could be worse off under a new manager. Well that's very difficult to believe considering who we have in charge now, but even if true - good. At least it will be different.

Which leaves the manner is which he is sacked. A few years ago I'd have said, gently. Now I don't care. If it has to be brutal then let it be brutal. That's because the man has made it very clear where he stands - in the ranks of the monied minority and against the fans. Just listen to what comes out of his mouth. He's an arrogant dickhead. I might be the same, but I don't insist on ruining the entertainment of thousands so I can have my way. Unless, of course, there are still some individuals out there who believe Wengerball is entertaining. We are over that myth now surely? Even the media is over it and they are the fools who prolonged it in the absence of a single shred of evidence.

So while I have the luxury of participating without major distraction - "Should Wenger be sacked?" Well DUH!

Wenger out!

[Niall_Quinn]

leave my tits out of it, not in their name ...they don't need you speaking on their behalf

Be careful. You might end up boring Letters too. And then he'll respond to every one of your posts, such will be his boredom.

[topgun]

Feeling much better now,Wenger say's water boils at 100 degree's and we are just 1 degree off.

[alexander]

OK, not a great performance, but we did have two new players thrown on to start. Another three points to build on. Onwards and upwards.

[alexander]

Oh, you mean in the grand scheme of things? You are correct, it's unimportant at that level. If you said, don't forget you are being thrown on the street today and you also have that Wenger Out post to make, then the latter would take a back seat.

However, considering I still have an interest in Arsenal (just) and I am currently in a happy position to express that interest, my intention is to feed a small spoon of sugar to the zeitgeist. When the question, Should Wenger be Sacked?, achieves similar response to the question, "Do you think the sun is hot?", then I'll be satisfied. And when it gets to that level, and it will because nobody is making up Wenger's flaws and deficiencies, then Wenger will be sacked. Not even the board will be able to save him.

Once he's sacked, there can be a change at the club. Maybe not the massive change that is required, but any change is welcome. This is because, why? Obviously the monotony of the last decade. What's the point of sport when the outcome is entirely predictable? Some people say we could be worse off under a new manager. Well that's very difficult to believe considering who we have in charge now, but even if true - good. At least it will be different.

Which leaves the manner is which he is sacked. A few years ago I'd have said, gently. Now I don't care. If it has to be brutal then let it be brutal. That's because the man has made it very clear where he stands - in the ranks of the monied minority and against the fans. Just listen to what comes out of his mouth. He's an arrogant dickhead. I might be the same, but I don't insist on ruining the entertainment of thousands so I can have my way. Unless, of course, there are still some individuals out there who believe Wengerball is entertaining. We are over that myth now surely? Even the media is over it and they are the fools who prolonged it in the absence of a single shred of evidence.

So while I have the luxury of participating without major distraction - "Should Wenger be sacked?" Well DUH!

Wenger out!

I get it, you want Wenger out, Im all for change too, but its not happening now. From media I read, it does feel that there is more `feeling` that he `may` go at the end of the season.

But, personally, your continual negativity on almost every page of every thread gets a bit much.

[Power n Glory]

Cazorla .

Cech .

Koscielny .

Wenger .

Ox and Ozil were woeful. How long can you keep playing Ox in the hope he comes good? Everytime he does something decent, he ruins it with a shocking pass or cross. He's a liability and should only play if Alexis, Iwobi, Walcott, Welbz, Ramsey or The Jeff are unavailable.

Kos with a bicycle kick goal on his birthday! Mustafi looks decent too.

I thought Ox and Ozil were poor and we should have brought on Xhaka for Coquelin.

Perez didn't really get onto the game but looks like he has hustle and will work for it.

[Niall_Quinn]

I get it, you want Wenger out, Im all for change too, but its not happening now. From media I read, it does feel that there is more `feeling` that he `may` go at the end of the season.

But, personally, your continual negativity on almost every page of every thread gets a bit much.

There is a mindless optimism thread if you need an escape from the reality Wenger has created.