Fixing Football

[Letters]

We'd never be in it though.

We'd have been in it 3 times under Wenger. But, and here's the point, that would make it more exciting if and when we are in it. Teams being in it year on year make it less exciting and special as it becomes routine. Plus it gives them such a big financial advantage that it makes it easier for them to stay in the top few and it can all become self perpetuating. City and Chelsea bought their way in, it's pretty hard to do it otherwise (which, grudgingly, makes Spurs achievement this season quite impressive although they've not exactly been thrifty themselves).

[Olivier's xmas twist]

We'd have been in it 3 times under Wenger. But, and here's the point, that would make it more exciting if and when we are in it. Teams being in it year on year make it less exciting and special as it becomes routine. Plus it gives them such a big financial advantage that it makes it easier for them to stay in the top few and it can all become self perpetuating. City and Chelsea bought their way in, it's pretty hard to do it otherwise (which, grudgingly, makes Spurs achievement this season quite impressive although they've not exactly been thrifty themselves).

Yep and also we not be able to settle for 2nd/3rd/4th, we'd actully have to spend money and compete to get in it, it be much better for our league tbh.

[Dog Toffee]

There are so many great teams in Europe that arent necessarily champions though. In spain every year one of Barca or Madrid wouldnt be in it. I think the way the CL is a.t.m isnt exactly boring and in some countries it is only the top one or two isnt it?

[Marc Overmars]

My old man told me that back in the day, because only champions were in the European Cup, it arguably made the Uefa Cup harder to win and it carried more prestige than it does now, because the teams who finished 2nd and 3rd were involved.

[LDG]

My old man told me that back in the day, because only champions were in the European Cup, it arguably made the Uefa Cup harder to win and it carried more prestige than it does now, because the teams who finished 2nd and 3rd were involved.

I said shit fuck boll.....

oh.

[Cripps_orig]

My old man told me that back in the day, because only champions were in the European Cup, it arguably made the Uefa Cup harder to win and it carried more prestige than it does now, because the teams who finished 2nd and 3rd were involved.

Pretty much.

Also bring the CWC back. That and the UEFA Cup in the 90s were great trophies.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

There are so many great teams in Europe that arent necessarily champions though. In spain every year one of Barca or Madrid wouldnt be in it. I think the way the CL is a.t.m isnt exactly boring and in some countries it is only the top one or two isnt it?

Thats just more way to make Uefa money tbh, they rather have madrid or barca in it even if they don't win their league their some rubbish russian or greek team who wins their league no one has heard of and its wrong.

We should be no where near the Cl just seems to be a safety blaket for us and its dangerous. We benefit from it being just champs or top 2 tbh.

[Letters]

There are so many great teams in Europe that arent necessarily champions though. In spain every year one of Barca or Madrid wouldnt be in it. I think the way the CL is a.t.m isnt exactly boring and in some countries it is only the top one or two isnt it?

If you're happy with a system where a little group of clubs at the top of each club can qualify year on year and qualifying gives them the prestige and money to stay up there (or, at least, makes it easier to) then yeah, it's fine. If you're OK with knowing from the start of a season that only one of 2 or 3 clubs can win the league. I personally think that makes things less interesting.

[LDG]

Should be the champions, for the champs league / european cup.

Then winners of the FA cup and maybe Carling Cup for the Cup Winners Cup

Then two / three for the europa.

5 places for Europe.

Seems good to me.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Get rid of Plantini and Blatter that will be a start to fixing football.