Cesc

[fakeyank]

dont care

just pointing out your figures are wrong for net spending

34248923849 titles or whatever it is now, equals a lot of money to spend. utd have never been shy to spend

They spent more than us but that does not mean they have spent a lot! I guess you did not get that point. Even Villa spent more than us. Does not mean they are the money bags of football. And circling back, thats what I was saying.. Utd spend according to what looks very realistic for a club of our size yet we DONT! Why!?

[LDG]

Thank you for that! You made it easier. All this talk of "we cant compete with the money power of Utd/City" is absolute bollocks then! Liverpool and spurs have spent more than Utd yet Utd know how to spend wisely and be at the top! Last 10 seasons, they have spent 17 million quid a season. Surely we can spend 10 million quid a season? Or are we worse than that? Why have we not strengthened? Arsene Wenger! He thinks he is going to win everything with Diaby, Vela, Denilson, Benayoun, Scillaci and co.

Add 25million per season on satdium repayments each year for four years, and see what figure that takes us up to. Oh yeah. About the same as Utd.

And we're still third.

[Joker]

yep because the papers and Aw tell the truth fact is we don't and never will know if we ever had the money simples.

Obvioulsy we had some money as we spent some in september, but i doubt we had loads as you suggest.

If we did we don't know how much the board released but that a topic for another thread this one has gone of course for too long now.

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...unds-to-invest

There is money available, we have chosen not to spend it. Moreover, even with the little that we have spent, it could have been used to sign better players. For example, instead of Gervinho, Squillaci, Park, Chamakh we could have got in Cisse, Cabaye, Parker. Spending money on the later three instead of the former 4 wouldn't have cost the earth.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I thought Fabregas was really poor in his final season and I lost a bit of respect for him the way he didn't seem bothered, but us laughing at him for failing with Barca this season (and the vitriol aimed towards Nasri) is OTT in my opinion, and I think is done simply to cover up our own deficiencies and avoid asking the question of why we've lost so many top players in the recent past (although I don't think either Nasri or Cesc are absolute top quality tbh) We have lost so many players because we lack ambition, and seem content with champions league qualification and treating the club as a business. Sure, people will counter that by saying Nasri moved for greed and Cesc wanted to return to his boyhood club, but money wasn't the only factor motivating Nasri and Cesc himself has admitted he became disillusioned at the club. This wouldn't happen at a club like Man Utd. PnG is correct to say it's just sour grapes and bitterness from some fans, especially those who think everything's rosy in the Arsenal garden

[Olivier's xmas twist]

[QUOTE=fakeyank;129216]They spent more than us but that does not mean they have spent a lot! I guess you did not get that point. Even Villa spent more than us. Does not mean they are the money bags of football. And circling back, thats what I was saying.. Utd spend according to what looks very realistic for a club of our size yet we DONT! Why!?[/QUOTE]
Because we had a staduim to repay off all the other club never simples.

You go on like we had money with no debt in the last 7 years at leas add that in your agrument instead of being so one sided is tedious tbh.

[fakeyank]

So you believe we can chuck the same amount of money on a player that city and UTD can more fool you if you beileve that.

Yes, we can. Why cant we!? We got 25 million quid for Nasri and Adebayor. Between 30-40 million for Cesc. Of course we can spend 30 million quid at players. Something Utd can do. IMO, everything Utd can do monetarily on a player, we can do match at least 70% of that.

[Xhaka Can’t]

What is this resources that thing you talk about? Utd and Barca pretty much have the same resources as us! Utd have an owner who is openly raping them but they have a manager who stands up and says "I am a football manager and I am here to win football games". Barca is broke but they spend when they see quality! AW does not even spend the money we make off of transfers!

As for Utd having the best manager. Of course they do! What I fail to understand is how AW has fallen behind SAF. AW was just as good as him till 06. Not only is he coming 2nd best, he is consistently coming 4th best these days!! To me, its clear... SAF realized football has changed and he needs to adapt accordingly. Wenger has failed and not adapted.. he still has no Plan B in matches, still has no defensive stability. The only thing AW has got better at over the last 6 years is the ability to talk absolute gob about team spirit and mental strength.



I think he is busy lining his pockets and that is why I despise him as an Arsenal manager. Its very simple to me..

- Either the board is denying him funds and meddling with football matters and not letting him sign players. In this case he should resign just like how any other top football manager would. A winner like him should not work with so much constraints
- Or the board has given him decent funds and freedom over football matters. In this case, he should be hung to dry for the way he has dismantled the team and brought us to a level where we are 20 points behind Utd!

I am very confident that the later is true and for that, I do not want him as my manager nor do I think he is any good. Its the battered wife syndrome (said by a great poster on GW). He pushes us into a well (beginning of every season) and then picks us up and then he is the great manager who with his limited budget and constraints has got Arsenal to the top 4! Bollocks!

[fakeyank]

[QUOTE=Charlie the Gooner;129220]

They spent more than us but that does not mean they have spent a lot! I guess you did not get that point. Even Villa spent more than us. Does not mean they are the money bags of football. And circling back, thats what I was saying.. Utd spend according to what looks very realistic for a club of our size yet we DONT! Why!?[/QUOTE]
Because we had a staduim to repay off all the other club never simples.

You go on like we had money with no debt in the last 7 years at leas add that in your agrument instead of being so one sided is tedious tbh.

Utd does not have debt

[LDG]

Thank you for that! You made it easier. All this talk of "we cant compete with the money power of Utd/City" is absolute bollocks then! Liverpool and spurs have spent more than Utd yet Utd know how to spend wisely and be at the top! Last 10 seasons, they have spent 17 million quid a season. Surely we can spend 10 million quid a season? Or are we worse than that? Why have we not strengthened? Arsene Wenger! He thinks he is going to win everything with Diaby, Vela, Denilson, Benayoun, Scillaci and co.

Also, Utd's figures are massively skewed by one transfer. Ronaldo for 80 million. Great business....probably the best bit of business ever, but at the same time....it does mean that they have spent (relatively) as much as spuds etc, but for one transfer.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-arc...unds-to-invest

There is money available, we have chosen not to spend it. Moreover, even with the little that we have spent, it could have been used to sign better players. For example, instead of Gervinho, Squillaci, Park, Chamakh we could have got in Cisse, Cabaye, Parker. Spending money on the later three instead of the former 4 wouldn't have cost the earth.

Easy to say in hindsight but had we signed those players inthe summer i doubt most gooners would have been happy.

yes there are better players out their and AW made mistakes not signing them, but i don't think we have mega amount of money you go on about.

Articles like that don't tell us anything other what the fans want to here, we'd never know the truth about Arsenal's finaces we never have and never will. even our deals are undisclosed.