How many of our players do you think believe in Wenger's methods?

[IBK]

Complete speculation, I know, But I thought it might be fun/instructive to speculate about what certain of our current first team players is thinking.

So...

Vermaelen - I reckon he is wondereing what the fuck is happening to make him go backwards so quickly - quickly becoming a Wenger sceptic
Mertesacker - will be dismayed at the un-German like set up he is now involved in
Arteta - surely must be frustrated at having to abandon a creative outlet
Ramsey - pleased at being wenger's pet - but even he must be wondering what he is supposed to be doing
Cazorla - must be regretting signing - in danger of becoming our next Arshavin
Walcott - we are all pretty sure about how he is thinking. I have no doubt at all that he feels the same as RVP; Song; Nasri etc did before him , and can see what we can all see.
Wilshere - I am sure he keeps the faith - but then I dount he thinks about much more than playing for Arsenal
Podolski - clearly starting to wonder WTF the manager is doing
Giroud - wondering wwhere he really fits in to this tippy tappy team with no service from the flanks

....what do you think?

[Gervinho's Forehead]

Quickly is a good player just being played out of positions.

[GP]

....what do you think?

I think it's a really odd post.

How is Cazorla anything like a lazy gobshite like Arshavin?

Odd.

[Kano]

whilst i blame the manager for the malaise we have fallen into, i think it is a bit of a cop out to take the blame away from the players, especially those guilty of basic mistakes not associated with any style instructed in training.

[GP]

whilst i blame the manager for the malaise we have fallen into, i think it is a bit of a cop out to take the blame away from the players, especially those guilty of basic mistakes not associated with any style instructed in training.

Agree with this.

[Xhaka Can’t]

whilst i blame the manager for the malaise we have fallen into, i think it is a bit of a cop out to take the blame away from the players, especially those guilty of basic mistakes not associated with any style instructed in training.

I agree with you to an extent, but the malaise and the repetition of errors pre-date the arrival of every player on the team. We have a cultural and tactical problem at the club and it is Wenger who is responsible for this.

[Kano]

I agree with you to an extent, but the malaise and the repetition of errors pre-date the arrival of every player on the team. We have a cultural and tactical problem at the club and it is Wenger who is responsible for this.

i'd go with that in the main but when you see our captain passing the ball to one of the worlds best strikers and already putting us out of a very tough game, i'd struggle to associate that to training. mental focus and a determination to be ready for action should be driven by the manager so that is wenger's and the coaches fault we have too many slip ups, but there are some basics that players need to take a good look at themselves.

i mean even if you believe your manager is a knobhead who will never improve your ability, then you should be thinking about the long term damage happening to your reputation by not trying to fix some of these issues yourself. a manager takes ultimate responsibility but you do have to man up at times and realise your part in it all.

[IBK]

I think it's a really odd post.

How is Cazorla anything like a lazy gobshite like Arshavin?

Odd.

Well suited to you, then.

..and Cazorla's like Arshavin because I can see him declining under the manager's tutelage, just like Arshavin did.

[Niall_Quinn]

whilst i blame the manager for the malaise we have fallen into, i think it is a bit of a cop out to take the blame away from the players, especially those guilty of basic mistakes not associated with any style instructed in training.

You can't legislate for some of the shit happening on the pitch. The most simple passes, stupid trick plays on the edge of the box, giving up the chase, dragging the team out of shape with stupid, wild, glory runs, fucking up the cross every fucking time, passing instead of shooting, shooting instead of passing. Our forward players are making it very hard for the defence right now with their ongoing carelessness. For the money these guys get they need to be able to do the very basic stuff at least.

[LDG]

A man who acts as a comfort blanket and doesn't distance himself from his players, is going to lose players.

It's like a school teacher. There was:

i) Mr Nice - Who had a good heart, but no balls and lost the classroom to bullies and people who threw things at him
ii) Mr Friend - Who tried to be everyones mate, had the backs of the people who wanted to learn, but lost the tearaways and bullies because they didn't feel wated
iii) Mr **** - The teacher that hated kids, was bitter at being made to do a job he didn't want to do, and took it out on the classroom. Lost the classroom, because he didn't get people tow WANT to learn
iv) Mr Boring - The painfully slow lessons, by an unenthusiastic geek, who lost the classroom because, for kids, it was worse than poking your eyes out
v) Mr Manager - The man who is able to handle everyone on an individual basis, the man who can handle a group, be sympathetic, yet stern, respected, but loved, distant, but close when needed.

Wenger is a mixture of i) to iv)

Fergie is v)

Lunatic!