Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit

[GP]

Barca still owe payments on Cesc and Song anyway...

[Kano]

havnt seen much evidence of that this summer. only two realistic targets for them are cesc and thiago, ones already rejected them. i cant think who else they have been linked with, plus the only signings they have made are some unheard of squad players.

rvp last season. fab this season. tried to get tiago. they spend. they always have and as current champions they are far more appealing to a player than us. that's just logic. if cesc said no to arsenals first buy back clause or whatever it is, then that would be that.

[Ollie the Optimist]

rvp last season. fab this season. tried to get tiago. they spend. they always have and as current champions they are far more appealing to a player than us. that's just logic. if cesc said no to arsenals first buy back clause or whatever it is, then that would be that.

if however this bid is as is being reported, 8 weeks old, then why no follow up bid? they then seeminlgly move to thiago, try to spend and dont get him because apparently moyes doubted his ability in premier league. so making bids, not following up, dithering, missing out on targets, key player trying to leave. sounds like arsenal really

[selassie]

with buy back clauses and first refusal, he has complete control over the situation, if he wants cesc, he'll get him.

sure, he has greater control than any other manager in the sense that if he offers the 25m or whatever the "first refusal fee" is, but this does not mean we can get him. cesc has got to want to come back here, that's the crucial part.

let's be honest, we don't have anything over any other likely interested party. why would cesc choose to come back here? he's got nothing to prove. football isn't about loyalty these days, he could quite easily go to Man United or Chelsea or wherever and achieve a lot more than he will here. there is nothing we can offer him above those two aforementioned clubs, nothing.

[GP]

[Kano]

if however this bid is as is being reported, 8 weeks old, then why no follow up bid? they then seeminlgly move to thiago, try to spend and dont get him because apparently moyes doubted his ability in premier league. so making bids, not following up, dithering, missing out on targets, key player trying to leave. sounds like arsenal really

give it 4/5 years of doing the same, then we can compare the two.

[LDG]

Looks like the heat is getting to a few people.

Sanogo

[GP]

Looks like the heat is getting to a few people.

[Grebbo]

with buy back clauses and first refusal, he has complete control over the situation, if he wants cesc, he'll get him.

Wenger doesn't really have any control over the situation if Fabregas doesn't want to sign for us.

[Ollie the Optimist]

sure, he has greater control than any other manager in the sense that if he offers the 25m or whatever the "first refusal fee" is, but this does not mean we can get him. cesc has got to want to come back here, that's the crucial part.

let's be honest, we don't have anything over any other likely interested party. why would cesc choose to come back here? he's got nothing to prove. football isn't about loyalty these days, he could quite easily go to Man United or Chelsea or wherever and achieve a lot more than he will here. there is nothing we can offer him above those two aforementioned clubs, nothing.

there have been interviews with barca players where they say, all cesc talks baout is arsenal, he is constantly liking photos of arsenal on instragam, watches most of our matches, that is the actions of a man who still cares about the club. it could mean nohting but i choose to believe it isn't.
we know cesc views wenger as his second father, he has said so before, so i think if wenger was to talk to him, hed convince him. plus, if he went to united, sure hed win trophies, but he wouldnt be remembered as anything special, just like he wont be barcalona. but if he came back to arsenal, and won trophies with us, hed be a hero, a legend and remembered for a long long time as part of arsenals history. that might appeal to him.

i dont think he would go to united myself, ive been wrong before, but with him, i think it really is barca or us, and that is all it will be