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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Same as always. Two decades of it and people are surprised? Anyone who creamed themselves over the Luton result obviously had no idea what was coming. You HAVE to be on it 100% or else you have zero chance. I don't know why intelligent people can't figure that out. Didn't you ALREADY KNOW the title was gone after the Luton game, and if not, why the fuck not. Are you blind?
    I can take not winning the title to be honest, it's really fucking hard to in it.

    But if we can't push it to the final day then that's a real problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost... View Post
    I can take not winning the title to be honest, it's really fucking hard to in it.

    But if we can't push it to the final day then that's a real problem.
    I don’t think we will. I anticipate that we’ll beat Wolves but then drop points at Spurs. Maybe even Chelsea at home between that. We’ll see but history does tell us that today is probably the fatal blow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    I don’t think we will. I anticipate that we’ll beat Wolves but then drop points at Spurs. Maybe even Chelsea at home between that. We’ll see but history does tell us that today is probably the fatal blow.
    Yes I think it will be maybe a 5 point gap by the emd of the season, but we desperately need to avoid total collapse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    Yes I think it will be maybe a 5 point gap by the emd of the season, but we desperately need to avoid total collapse
    We said this last year as well about taking it to the end. We’d all probably accept it just wasn’t meant to be if we were to miss out by a single result.

    However I think we all know it won’t be just today’s result that will spoil it for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost... View Post
    I can take not winning the title to be honest, it's really fucking hard to in it.

    But if we can't push it to the final day then that's a real problem.
    It was in the Luton game. They sat back and assumed. And then I wondered if they'd have the gumption when it wasn't Luton. That's the acid test 'm always looking for. Haven't passed it yet, when the rubber hits the road. There's a pattern, and it keeps playing out. I'm patiently watching for that pattern to be broken. I don't think it's down to the manager, I think it's down to the culture. The culture of the club is geared to competing rather than winning at all costs. Champions win at all costs and that's the only measure. So if we et 4th, we've won. Financially speaking. And, for Arenal, that's the bottom line. When that changes, which a manger cannot do, our fortunes will change too. But right now, we lose for profit.
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    The problem really is that we’re trying to win the first one. The first one for this group and the first one for the club in 20 years. That weight just grows heavier and heavier each year. City also making the league so fucking difficult to win has made this so ridiculous that after a run of 10 wins from 11 we were still very unlikely to win it. This is also supposedly a weaker version of City than what we’ve seen in recent times, yet ourselves and Liverpool are about to be left in the dust.

    I just can’t bring myself to vent about what we could and couldn’t have done, huge disappointment for sure but until I see someone else other than us or Liverpool challenging City then everyone else can get fucked. It’s bloody hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    It was in the Luton game. They sat back and assumed. And then I wondered if they'd have the gumption when it wasn't Luton. That's the acid test 'm always looking for. Haven't passed it yet, when the rubber hits the road. There's a pattern, and it keeps playing out. I'm patiently watching for that pattern to be broken. I don't think it's down to the manager, I think it's down to the culture. The culture of the club is geared to competing rather than winning at all costs. Champions win at all costs and that's the only measure. So if we et 4th, we've won. Financially speaking. And, for Arenal, that's the bottom line. When that changes, which a manger cannot do, our fortunes will change too. But right now, we lose for profit.
    You really do talk utter shite

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    Btw Zin was booed off today, a pyrrhic victory for me which gives me little pleasure but now at least people can see it

    The signing of this player, and the absurd idea that he could do a job at LB, is without doubt Arteta's biggest folly, on its own it may not be the reason we win nothing this season but it's the single most obvious mistake, along with thinking Eddie had anything more to offer and not replacing him last summer with someone at least a bit better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    Btw Zin was booed off today, a pyrrhic victory for me which gives me little pleasure but now at least people can see it

    The signing of this player, and the absurd idea that he could do a job at LB, is without doubt Arteta's biggest folly, on its own it may not be the reason we win nothing this season but it's the single most obvious mistake, along with thinking Eddie had anything more to offer and not replacing him last summer with someone at least a bit better
    Oh and the real irony is I thought Zin was finding Trossard quite well in the first half and it was probably in that single sense the best I'd seen him do for us

    But don't get me wrong, overall he was just as shite as usual

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    Either play him in midfield or not at all.

    He lacks presence and always loses his duels and don’t get me started on his undercooked passing which so often causes panic.

    I was happy with his signing at first because of how fresh it felt but teams have very quickly worked out that he’s the one to exploit.

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