Mourinho in?

[Özim]

Some Arsenal fans feel that way about Wenger so there's nothing to say people wouldn't still feel that way about Mourinho.

It's irrelevant when so many other clubs feel the same way about him anyway.

Bit different, we've had 20 years of Wenger and the last 10 hasn't been great, it's not half a season. Wenger after a few seasons still had the majority of people's support despite his glaring mistakes.

20 years at a club is too long for any manager anyway, things get stale and the desire to win becomes diluted.

[Letters]

20 years at a club is too long for any manager anyway, things get stale and the desire to win becomes diluted.

Wenger's desire to win is undiminished, but I kinda agree 20 years at a club is arguably too long.
But he's delivered over the last 2 years since we've had the money to compete better and right now we're in the title mix.
If we collapse again I'd agree he should be sacked.

[Özim]

Wenger's desire to win is undiminished, but I kinda agree 20 years at a club is arguably too long.
But he's delivered over the last 2 years since we've had the money to compete better and right now we're in the title mix.
If we collapse again I'd agree he should be sacked.

It's debateable IMO, time and time again he just won't do the necessary in the transfer market, surely a manager who's only goal is success wouldn't do this, in addition he seems to have great pride in coming 3rd/4th and qualifying for the CL for the nth season, which isn't exactly the sign of a desire to win. Not maintaning momentum could also be an argument against a genuine desire to win.

I'm not saying he doesn't like winning, just that it's become less important to him over the years, seems to get more satisfaction from making the club a profit tbh.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

It can happen after two. Some Chelsea fans were weary of Mourinho and this isn't being wise after the event, this was the case before he was sacked.

[Letters]

It's debateable IMO, time and time again he just won't do the necessary in the transfer market, surely a manager who's only goal is success wouldn't do this

Wenger's only goal isn't success, nor should it be. During the years when a combination of the stadium move and the billionaires inflating the market affected our ability to compete he could have gambled on success by spending money we didn't really have but he chose to look longer term. I think at times he was too frugal but I have no problem with the general principle of thinking longer term. Mourinho has never achieved long term success anywhere, yes he's able to do well in the short term - usually by throwing money around or inheriting a very good squad or both - but he's such an utter **** that it doesn't take long before people start turning against him and refuse to work with him which is exactly what has happened at Chelsea.

in addition he seems to have great pride in coming 3rd/4th and qualifying for the CL for the nth season, which isn't exactly the sign of a desire to win. Not maintaning momentum could also be an argument against a genuine desire to win.

He maybe does take a bit too much pride in that, and in balancing the books, but it was a pretty impressive achievement to keep finishing in the top 4 over such a long period as other clubs spunked money to try and unseat us, and we're now in a very good position financially which should enable any future manager to compete. Wenger has succeeded in more ways that he's failed over the last 10 years IMO, I'm pleased for him that he's won the 2 FA Cups, I hope he can deliver at least one more title before he bows out.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I think I'd despise him even if he was Arsenal manager because of the turgid football and his constant undermining of fellow professionals, like anyone with severe NPD not a pleasant character.

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger's only goal isn't success, nor should it be. During the years when a combination of the stadium move and the billionaires inflating the market affected our ability to compete he could have gambled on success by spending money we didn't really have but he chose to look longer term. I think at times he was too frugal but I have no problem with the general principle of thinking longer term. Mourinho has never achieved long term success anywhere, yes he's able to do well in the short term - usually by throwing money around or inheriting a very good squad or both - but he's such an utter **** that it doesn't take long before people start turning against him and refuse to work with him which is exactly what has happened at Chelsea.


He maybe does take a bit too much pride in that, and in balancing the books, but it was a pretty impressive achievement to keep finishing in the top 4 over such a long period as other clubs spunked money to try and unseat us, and we're now in a very good position financially which should enable any future manager to compete. Wenger has succeeded in more ways that he's failed over the last 10 years IMO, I'm pleased for him that he's won the 2 FA Cups, I hope he can deliver at least one more title before he bows out.

Bizzare.

Wenger is supposed to be the manager. His ONLY goal should be success on the pitch, that's his job. Or it's supposed to be. But at Arsenal we've had two boards that have instead focused on money and the manager has relegated his ONLY priority to secondary status in favour of planning stadium moves and delivering favourable balance sheets. It's complete bullshit. Not his job. His actual job, he's not doing properly.

As for Maureen - twice the manager Wenger is and his record proves it so unbelievable somebody would try to pretend otherwise. On the other hand, he's less than half the human being - a lot less in truth.

[A Gunner]

I think us as fans always want us to win trophies, while Wenger is realistic.

Look, even Mourinhno just trying to get into CL this season after the start Chelsea had, even he said it would be an achievement to be in top 4.

[Letters]

His actual job, he's not doing properly.

Well, we've just won 2 FA Cups in a row and we're currently 2nd in the league and have qualified for the last 16 of the CL, so we'll have to agree to disagree about that. Whether he does his job for the rest of the season remains to be seen.

[Niall_Quinn]

Well, we've just won 2 FA Cups in a row and we're currently 2nd in the league and have qualified for the last 16 of the CL, so we'll have to agree to disagree about that. Whether he does his job for the rest of the season remains to be seen.

Well you can agree or disagree all you like but it doesn't change the facts. No top manager would swap their titles and European trophies for Wenger's 2 FA cups and 2nd in the league. He hasn't won or even competed properly for a major honour since 2006. Maureen said any normal club would have sacked a manager who had failed over such a protracted period - well this morning he wakes up knowing that's 100% true. It would be nice to think we stuck by Wenger because we are the opposite of the chavs and have a bit of class. Well people can believe that or not - again, it doesn't change the facts. Money.