All on the weekend fixtures thread
All on the weekend fixtures thread
There has been a lot of moaning on here - and it has been moaning, not discussion.
And it's been going round the same circles for years.
What else is there to say?
And it's interesting to note that the biggest moaners have barely posted here during our good run, you can bet you're bottom dollar the first setback or two and they'll be back like a shot. It's prett wearying.
Discussion is fine but the most positive people tire of relentless moaning to the extent that some people on here seem to actively want Arsenal to do badly because they'd rather that than be shown to have been wrong. It's pretty pathetic, frankly.
You're talking about one poster in particular. What's tiresome is the constant sniping and the obsession with zimm is pathetic. You mention him every time and even have other posters following your lead with that nonsense. He's not even here and your taking shots. Has nothing to do with football or Arsenal.
oh well....
I didn't mention zimm in that last post. I mentioned him in the previous one because he has been conspicuous by his absense during our good run and seems to actively want Arsenal to fail because he'd rather be shown to be right than see the team he purports to support to succeed. THAT is pathetic.
My previous post was about the moaning all summer and early this season in general which was constant, wearying and widespread from quite a few posters.
There was plenty to moan about so whats the problem?Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL)
Doesn't change the fact that you keep mentioning him when he's not even here. It's sad. Bad enough we've got other posters doing it.
Exactly. We had a terrible summer.. we didnt get replacements till the last minute and suffered our worst defeat in more than 100 years! While we are doing very well this time, I'd hate to be someone taking pot shots at Zimm or the realists (some call them moaners). I have been AW's biggest critic and I still am... While having this awesome run is good, lets remember that pretty much every season we put an unbeaten 16-17 match run and then one sign of crack, opens the pandora's box. Realistically, we have had 2 major targets- PL, CL and 2 smaller ones- CC, FA Cup. We are out of contention for the PL and also out of top 4 position, out of the CC... CL is a long shot and FA cup seems to be the only one that we can win. So where are we as a top football club? Mid table with realistically a chance of one cup...
However having said that, I do see this team as being very similar to the 07/08 group... they look to play for the fans and work hard. That honestly is all you can ask from the players... give your best! If only AW had opened his eyes and got some experience in the previous seasons or more importantly gave a fuck about defending. My opinion is that we shouldnt be critical if the players are giving their best but if they are acting like divas or if AW doesnt acknowledge the faults in the team (in terms of tactics/signings) then the swords need to come out again!
5th is mid-table?
The ridiculous hyperbole and disrespect/abuse Wenger got which IMO was over the top and unwarranted.
No-one thought things were rosy in the summer or early season and I feared Wenger had lost the dressing room but as much as Wenger deserves criticism for the tail end of last season, the summer and the start of this season he deserves credit for turning it around and we look like a team again and the players actually seem to be playing for Wenger and each other.
Nope. Zim and yourself are not realists. You are pessimists. You're always on the lookout for the worst possible scenario, and whenever a setback happens you validate your opinion. Ach on the other hand is an extremist. He has completely veered from Wenger and his team can do no wrong to the exact opposite - nothing inbetween whatsoever - a complete black and white world pretty much devoid of thought and objective analysis.
Exactly. We had a terrible summer.. we didnt get replacements till the last minute and suffered our worst defeat in more than 100 years! While we are doing very well this time, I'd hate to be someone taking pot shots at Zimm or the realists (some call them moaners). I have been AW's biggest critic and I still am... While having this awesome run is good, lets remember that pretty much every season we put an unbeaten 16-17 match run and then one sign of crack, opens the pandora's box. Realistically, we have had 2 major targets- PL, CL and 2 smaller ones- CC, FA Cup. We are out of contention for the PL and also out of top 4 position, out of the CC... CL is a long shot and FA cup seems to be the only one that we can win. So where are we as a top football club? Mid table with realistically a chance of one cup...
However having said that, I do see this team as being very similar to the 07/08 group... they look to play for the fans and work hard. That honestly is all you can ask from the players... give your best! If only AW had opened his eyes and got some experience in the previous seasons or more importantly gave a fuck about defending. My opinion is that we shouldnt be critical if the players are giving their best but if they are acting like divas or if AW doesnt acknowledge the faults in the team (in terms of tactics/signings) then the swords need to come out again!
There are many things wrong with this team and contrary to what you would like, there are no easy answers, but there are positive too and anyone who has noticed what is going on can see that early assertions that Wenger has lost the dressing room (myself included) have been proved wrong. This team is working hard for Wenger and they are growing in belief. The only thing remaining to be determined is, can they do this at the business end of the season where so many Arsenal teams have failed in recent years. Regardless of what anyone wants, this Board is not getting rid of Wenger during the season, but if we do witness another business end collapse then I hope he goes. Right now though, I am pleased with what I'm seeing and am more optimistic than I have been for a number of years - a position I would not have envisioned back in May.
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