Good Bye RVP!

[selassie]

if it is true that a deal has been agreed with city by rvp over contract etc then surely we can get them for tapping up right?

Tapping up is part and parcel of Football, some clubs do it privately others don't. There's not a lot we can do about it. He's going to City, we'll probably try and drag out the sale...but I think the fact that we signed Podolski & Giroud pretty much confirms the club have known for some time RVP is going.

I don't like the fact that we sell to City, it makes us look small time but I'm pretty sure he's off there.

[fakeyank]

if it is true that a deal has been agreed with city by rvp over contract etc then surely we can get them for tapping up right?

Whats the point? Fine City 10K? Sheikh Mansoor will take that money out of the cracks of his couch!

[Marc Overmars]

if it is true that a deal has been agreed with city by rvp over contract etc then surely we can get them for tapping up right?

Not if the club gave him permission to speak with others after the meeting they had before the Euros, which I reckon they did.

[Power n Glory]

It's not a unique trait of just Arsenal fans to hope and believe our current players care about the club and will spend many years here. Certainly in this case, I would question Van Persie's character for reasons other than simply wanting to leave, as I've explained. Do I think Van Persie's leaving for money? Yes, partly. I do think if we were able to offer Man City's wages he would stay. I view it as a trade-off...Van Persie might value money and he also probably wants a taste of some silverware. If he does have a connection with Arsenal (and I think he does having stayed here such a long time), ticking 2 out of the 3 boxes might've done it for him. Decisions like these are not clear cut and why fans need to be so definite about things, I don't know. Saying "Nasri, Clichy, Adebayor, Henry etc." managed to win silverware so they were leaving for trophies is stupid logic. By the same logic, you could claim they were leaving for more money because they were also on better contracts. We all have our views but you can't disprove one or the other.

Why in the world would you choose to end your career here when we have that 30 plus contract rule? We don't look after our older players and will quickly move them on when it's convenient for us. We have policies in place that make it difficult for us to keep players.

And let's not beat around the bush and act as if we don't know why players are leaving. This isn't a mystery. Lack of ambition has been cited by players on very good contracts to players on lows wages. There is a problem with the way this clubs run.

[GP]

It's not about the money this time...we just can't match his ambition in the transfer market and if you read the last part of the full statement...Van Persie hints as to one of the reasons why...

"As soon as Mr Gazidis is back from his two-week holiday in America further meetings will follow and I will update you if and when there are more developments."

Anyone else know why our CEO is taking a 2-week break in the middle of the transfer window...a window that is probably one of the most important in our recent history? Anyone?

He isn't on holiday. The statement is full of shit and so is he.

[leaf]

dont think he's leaving for money either just wants a crack at winning something,hopefully he will go to juve not city but still worth chucking a bid in for de jong

[Syn]

I don't believe he's leaving for money. Sure, he'll probably get paid more wherever he ends up, but by definition the richest clubs these days also happen to be the ones who win trophies.

It's not implausible to think he's exhausted with the club and just wants to move for a fresh start, I know many of us are frustrated as fans as well so it's reasonable to expect players to feel the same at times, they're not robots.

Many of us have spent most of this season arguing what Man City is doing is not really 'earning' trophies and if you spend so much it's quite inevitable you'll eventually win. But while we're speculating, what would you make of Van Persie's reasons for wanting to leave if he joins Man City? You'd have to think a player of Van Persie's ability could get a move to other clubs in with a chance of trophies (e.g. Juventus are interested).

[Özim]

We're becoming Man City's feeder club.

Don't really mind where he goes to be honest, we're not winning anything soon. Question is do we care about the money, it's not like we're going to see it being spent on the team?

Italy isn't an attractive place to go to these days, it's not quite the 2nd rate league Wenger thinks it is, but the clubs there aren't really overly competitive in Europe, Mourinho produced miracle with Inter but aside from there's not been much in recent years, top players no longer end up in Italy.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Not if the club gave him permission to speak with others after the meeting they had before the Euros, which I reckon they did.

some reports are claiming that deal done in march time etc, there is no way we would have given permission then if we have at all. surely something needs to be done, if it is tapping up, a fine and suspended ban and found to do it agian, they would be punished. we have to accuse them if they did it, just to try and get some good back into football

[Marc Overmars]

Many of us have spent most of this season arguing what Man City is doing is not really 'earning' trophies and if you spend so much it's quite inevitable you'll eventually win. But while we're speculating, what would you make of Van Persie's reasons for wanting to leave if he joins Man City? You'd have to think a player of Van Persie's ability could get a move to other clubs in with a chance of trophies (e.g. Juventus are interested).

In the case of City I'd say money would probably be the clincher, it always is. However it may also be suitable for him to keep his family in England where they might be settled. In addition, he may want to stick to what he knows best, the Premier League, rather than play in Italy and adapt to a new culture and league, something he may be too far gone in his life and career to do.

We all know as much as each other on this.

I reckon he's just fed up here, fancies a few +1 medals so he has something to look back on in 10 years, and also earn himself a nice packet for what will surely be the last big contract of his career.

C'est la vie.