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Thread: Good Bye RVP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn View Post
    If you want to pick out and debate/argue against a post, feel free to do so. Making generic (not to mention untrue - no significant portion of fans thought Henry, Clichy or Fabregas were leaving for money) comments like this is stupid.
    He has a point because there always seems to be a smear campaign against players who were once considered to be loyal and true to the club. We all knew this was one the cards but as soon as it happens a players character is called into question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jelgoon View Post
    Well we thought Clichy left for money but ure probably right about the other two.
    Personally I felt the club wanted a change at LB so we sold him the same reason we sold Toure. Obviously the club were getting good money too. But with Clichy I think the club were just as happy to take £12m for him and try something different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    with the strikers comment, that is just stupid. you cnat win with just two strikers so thats just crap wumming.

    and the phw comment is fair, why should we pay stupid money for a player? he just said he wont offer crazy money but will offer decent money.
    We've got other strikers, what we needed is one to score goals alongside RVP, Podolski would have done. We knew he was going so we lined up replacements.

    You say we can't win anything with two strikers and yet you've been telling us how we can win something all season with one, sort it out.

    As for PHW, well no you don't come out to the press with comments like that because it immediately tells people that we're not that bothered if he doesn't sign, there was no need to say anything to the press, it had nothing to do with anyone but the negotiating team and RVP and his agent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    with the strikers comment, that is just stupid. you cnat win with just two strikers so thats just crap wumming.

    and the phw comment is fair, why should we pay stupid money for a player? he just said he wont offer crazy money but will offer decent money.
    No, Giroud was signed after RVP told the club that he wasn't staying. He's a replacement not an addition. The same goes for Poldoski because we're going to lose Arshavin and possibly Theo. That's not strengthening the squad.

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    at least he has replced RVP before he flogs him unlike the fabregas saga,if he is going to leave get rid early and get a couple of decent midfielders in

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    I guess we no longer have the problem of accommodating three left footed forwards in the team. Don't ever think that was an issue.

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    What's done is done. RVP never had any intention of signing the contract that much was clear, why should he? He's probably just as tired as us fans. Lack of investment in the team....same old tired excuses blah blah blah.

    We can no longer make any excuses up about losing players past their prime, we're now quite regularly losing players in their prime and we will continue to do so until we become competitive.

    Call me a cynic, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if Song & Walcott follow RVP out of the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    He has a point because there always seems to be a smear campaign against players who were once considered to be loyal and true to the club. We all knew this was one the cards but as soon as it happens a players character is called into question.
    It's not a unique trait of just Arsenal fans to hope and believe our current players care about the club and will spend many years here. Certainly in this case, I would question Van Persie's character for reasons other than simply wanting to leave, as I've explained. Do I think Van Persie's leaving for money? Yes, partly. I do think if we were able to offer Man City's wages he would stay. I view it as a trade-off...Van Persie might value money and he also probably wants a taste of some silverware. If he does have a connection with Arsenal (and I think he does having stayed here such a long time), ticking 2 out of the 3 boxes might've done it for him. Decisions like these are not clear cut and why fans need to be so definite about things, I don't know. Saying "Nasri, Clichy, Adebayor, Henry etc." managed to win silverware so they were leaving for trophies is stupid logic. By the same logic, you could claim they were leaving for more money because they were also on better contracts. We all have our views but you can't disprove one or the other.

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    I don't believe he's leaving for money. Sure, he'll probably get paid more wherever he ends up, but by definition the richest clubs these days also happen to be the ones who win trophies.

    It's not implausible to think he's exhausted with the club and just wants to move for a fresh start, I know many of us are frustrated as fans as well so it's reasonable to expect players to feel the same at times, they're not robots.

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    if it is true that a deal has been agreed with city by rvp over contract etc then surely we can get them for tapping up right?

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