Summer transfer joy and happiness

[Mac76]

He'll probably take his time like with Torreira but the pressure on Xhaka will be good. Guendouzi and Ceballos can take his place if he's making too many mistakes.

So that means Guendouzi and Ceballos will be playing regularly then :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

This Coutinho thing has really taken off. :lol:

It has to be a load of nonsense surely?

Fuck defending. :bow:

[Penguin]

Yes it is, but at least they have now got a very good CB.

Arsenal need one of them as well, and time is nearly up.

He's garbage. The only reason they're paying that much is cause he's English.

[dostoy]

He's garbage. The only reason they're paying that much is cause he's English.

He is not garbage although he is overpriced but isn't everyone.

He is far better than Kos and Mustafi and any CB Arsenal have.

How can Arsenal NOT sign a CB, its unbelievable, surely it has to happen.

At least Maguire is used to English football, how long will it take Pepe to adapt, he is so slight, he looks like a 10 year old boy.

72 million is outrageous and far too much.

[SMatthews]

He's garbage. The only reason they're paying that much is cause he's English.

Yeah but he plays for In-ger-land

[LDG]

This Coutinho thing has really taken off. :lol:

It has to be a load of nonsense surely?

Fuck defending. :bow:

Being reported quite widely now :lol:

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Maguire is overpriced but he's not rubbish.

Can't take the Countinho stuff seriously.

[Unai Tea]

He is not garbage although he is overpriced but isn't everyone.

He is far better than Kos and Mustafi and any CB Arsenal have.

How can Arsenal NOT sign a CB, its unbelievable, surely it has to happen.

At least Maguire is used to English football, how long will it take Pepe to adapt, he is so slight, he looks like a 10 year old boy.

72 million is outrageous and far too much.

Far better? That's nonsense. He's marginally better than Sokratis and I suspect if you partner him with Mustafi, there'd be nothing in it.

But yeah, he's english and he's called hairy.

The rest of what you said there is even more nonsense.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Being reported quite widely now :lol:

Reports in Spain saying it would be a £20-30m loan fee :wacko: Surely not.

Unless you're whacking £20-30m off a future transfer fee... but even then. Surely not.

[LDG]

Reports in Spain saying it would be a £20-30m loan fee :wacko: Surely not.

Unless you're whacking £20-30m off a future transfer fee... but even then. Surely not.

Doubt it...

Sounds a load of old bollocks to me, but we don’t do simple.

[dostoy]

Far better? That's nonsense. He's marginally better than Sokratis and I suspect if you partner him with Mustafi, there'd be nothing in it.

But yeah, he's english and he's called hairy.

The rest of what you said there is even more nonsense.

Maguire is used to English football, that is a fact.

He is also far better than Sokratis.

Pepe IS very slight, that is a fact.

72 million is far too much as well.

Hardly nonsense.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

He doesn't look slight to me, not saying he is built like Kolasinac but he doesn't look slight, as in weak.

Such a weird comparison though that reeks of you wanting to believe all the worst in Arsenal and all the best in everybody else.

Being used to English football is such an irrelevance also. Playing in a different environment where a team has different expectations on them - playing for Leicester is not the same as playing for Manchester United.

[Unai Tea]

Maguire is used to English football, that is a fact.

He is also far better than Sokratis.

Pepe IS very slight, that is a fact.

72 million is far too much as well.

Hardly nonsense.

If we go by stats, Maguire is slightly better than Sokratis. If we go by a subjective perspective, I think Maguire is only slightly better individually than Sokratis. Van Dijk and Laporte are, in fact, 'far better' than Sokratis - but then they are also a good deal better than Maguire. Different level altogether (Let's call it the excellent to world class level). Sokratis and Maguire are operating at a level below that (the above average to pretty good level). Beneath that group are the run of the mill, average group. 'Far better' is hyperbole.

Pepe is not 'very slight'. He's 6'0, 160 lbs (literally right in the middle of appropriate height/weight ratio for 'normal'). By comparison, Aubamayang is 6'2, 175 lbs. Someone who IS 'very slight' in my view is Mahrez, who is 5'10.5 and 134lbs. That's hugging the bottom rung of what is 'normal' height/weight. So you're being hyperbolic.

In today's transfer market, considering age, production, potential, £72m for Pepe is about right. In the normal world most of us inhabit, it's ridiculous. But however ridiculous it might be, compared to £80m for Maguire, it's cheap as chips.

[SMatthews]

He doesn't look slight to me, not saying he is built like Kolasinac but he doesn't look slight, as in weak.

Such a weird comparison though that reeks of you wanting to believe all the worst in Arsenal and all the best in everybody else.

Being used to English football is such an irrelevance also. Playing in a different environment where a team has different expectations on them - playing for Leicester is not the same as playing for Manchester United.

It’s because he’s not an Arsenal fan. He said it himself some while ago. That’s why he’s upset we signed someone who might turn out to be very good.

As you say, the adaptation thing is garbage - it used to be a thing, but hasn’t been for a long time. Players know what to expect when they come to the PL now, especially French players who mostly aspire to get a chance to play here. Various French football media experts have said he’s aggressive and doesn’t get pushed off the ball easily. Think it’s fair to say they know quite a bit more than a random dude on the internet. Whether Pepe can continue to develop his talent is one thing, but it will have very little to do with adjusting to the league.

[SMatthews]

Courinho rumours are bollocks, but we apparently want to take Umtiti on loan for a season with a view to buying next season.

Better get the best cutlery out Raul.

[dostoy]

It’s because he’s not an Arsenal fan. He said it himself some while ago. That’s why he’s upset we signed someone who might turn out to be very good.

As you say, the adaptation thing is garbage - it used to be a thing, but hasn’t been for a long time. Players know what to expect when they come to the PL now, especially French players who mostly aspire to get a chance to play here. Various French football media experts have said he’s aggressive and doesn’t get pushed off the ball easily. Think it’s fair to say they know quite a bit more than a random dude on the internet. Whether Pepe can continue to develop his talent is one thing, but it will have very little to do with adjusting to the league.

I have NEVER said I'm not an Arsenal fan, that is 100% incorrect.

This is coming from someone who HAS said that he does NOT want Stan to spend his own money on bringing in new players for Arsenal.

HE is the one who is not an Arsenal fan.

I am a realist and I do not get carried away unlike some.

I'm not upset Arsenal signed Pepe but I think he is very slight and will spend a lot of time on the ground.

Arsenal need a CB and a left back before the transfer window ends, it is strange that they have not got either by now.

[mkkreuk]

Surely the likes of Eden hazard have proven that if you’re good enough the slight thing (although I think you’re overstating it) doesn’t matter in the premier league?

This is not the the 70s....

[dazthegooner]

Tierney could be out for at least 8 weeks hindering the deal (think we've enough injured defenders without signing another)

[McNamara That Ghost...]

He's 22 though, so although granted I have had my doubts on his injury record - he isn't just being bought for this season.

[dazthegooner]

Well atm we're top of the league until the season starts see if we can stay there for at least 90 minutes :)

[Letters]

Well atm we're top of the league until the season starts see if we can stay there for at least 90 minutes :)

I fear the day Aardvark United make it to the PL :(

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

I have NEVER said I'm not an Arsenal fan, that is 100% incorrect.

This is coming from someone who HAS said that he does NOT want Stan to spend his own money on bringing in new players for Arsenal.

HE is the one who is not an Arsenal fan.

I am a realist and I do not get carried away unlike some.

I'm not upset Arsenal signed Pepe but I think he is very slight and will spend a lot of time on the ground.

Arsenal need a CB and a left back before the transfer window ends, it is strange that they have not got either by now.

I don't think you should bother with his comments, he's easily one of the most dishonest people to have a football argument with on this forum.

This is the same poster that was one of the last AW apologist, spent half of last season slating Lacazette for lack of productivity and the other half canvassing we sell him off because he's productive and could fetch a good price. His ignorance about our finances is exposed time after time by actions and financial results, yet he always uses his " broke Arsenal" myth to support the board or whoever the manger is for our underperforming years. Look at him celebrating a 70million signning that addresses no obvious weakness that his "experts" have identified, the same bloke who told us to be "realistic" and bet on "Team Youth" again!

He's already cuddling the new man in charge and blaming all other teams for why we are not in the CL, yet he's the first to say we shouldn't change anything and we'll never fall out if the top 6. Talk about feeling entitled without putting in the graft.

You shouldn't take him seriously, he's repeatedly proven wrong and now has started making things up. Oh....... and he luvvvvvs Xhaka, that alone should end any sensible argument you may want to have with him.

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

Oh and as for my feelings on the Pepe signing, in case "someone" wants to come out and twist it... I'm not that enthused, and thats because it doesn't deal with the weakest spots of team, the positions most serious people have identified as our weaknesses.

And again, I'm going back to the past, anytime we've made these kind of signings they weren't really in our weakest spots in the team, it's almost like we make these signings to deflect or something... and I hope we're not going back to those dark day of deflecting and not addressing weaknesses.

This team is crying out for at least 2 really good defenders and a real capable deep lying midfielder that can work with Torrierra or even take over when he's not there.

I can still recall how Mourinho predicted that Man City would be difficult for anyone to compete with because Pep was allowed a free hand to spend disturbing money on defenders (something he claimed he wasn't allowed). Liverpool made a record signing that we laughed off this time last year, and now people are even canvassing he gets a FIfa best player award.

An annoying poster here says Man U would be midtable without De Gea, one of the few things he might be right about.

In short we need to make serious changes about how we defend and take defending as a whole in yhis club; and though I'm certain we are not "broke", the more we spend and deflect with signings like Pepe and now Coutinho, the more I distrust the ability of the people running this club to address footballing issues properly and get us competitive again.

[dostoy]

I don't think you should bother with his comments, he's easily one of the most dishonest people to have a football argument with on this forum.

This is the same poster that was one of the last AW apologist, spent half of last season slating Lacazette for lack of productivity and the other half canvassing we sell him off because he's productive and could fetch a good price. His ignorance about our finances is exposed time after time by actions and financial results, yet he always uses his " broke Arsenal" myth to support the board or whoever the manger is for our underperforming years. Look at him celebrating a 70million signning that addresses no obvious weakness that his "experts" have identified, the same bloke who told us to be "realistic" and bet on "Team Youth" again!

He's already cuddling the new man in charge and blaming all other teams for why we are not in the CL, yet he's the first to say we shouldn't change anything and we'll never fall out if the top 6. Talk about feeling entitled without putting in the graft.

You shouldn't take him seriously, he's repeatedly proven wrong and now has started making things up. Oh....... and he luvvvvvs Xhaka, that alone should end any sensible argument you may want to have with him.

I'm a bit confused here.

Who are you talking about because I never did any of what you are saying.

I was talking about 'SMatthews', he is the one that said he did not want Stan to spend any of his own money.

I'm not excited about Pepe yet although I might be when he starts playing and I would not have called Hazard slight in any way at all.

Arsenal need a CB and a left back and to get rid of so many players like Elneny, Jenks, Kos, Mustafi, Ozil and maybe Monreal who is too old.

[SMatthews]

I have NEVER said I'm not an Arsenal fan, that is 100% incorrect.

I got the wrong end of the stick.

http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=4011&page=16

[dostoy]

I got the wrong end of the stick.

http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=4011&page=16

Yes you did.

Why do you NOT want Stan to spend his own money ?

Arsenal cannot compete with Man City and Liverpool unless he does.

[SMatthews]

Neverton have tied up the Kean deal for £29m to start with.

[Marc Overmars]

United are close to signing Mandzukic apparently. Random.

[GP]

Given up on Dybala already?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Sarri hates strikers. :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Man Utd end talks with Dybala.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49230085

That's the way BBC paint it anyway, sounds like Dybala didn't want to go there.

[Özim]

I'm a bit confused here.

Who are you talking about because I never did any of what you are saying.

I was talking about 'SMatthews', he is the one that said he did not want Stan to spend any of his own money.

I'm not excited about Pepe yet although I might be when he starts playing and I would not have called Hazard slight in any way at all.

Arsenal need a CB and a left back and to get rid of so many players like Elneny, Jenks, Kos, Mustafi, Ozil and maybe Monreal who is too old.

I don't think he was talking about you, he was talking about the poster you replied to.

[GP]

Man Utd end talks with Dybala.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49230085

That's the way BBC paint it anyway, sounds like Dybala didn't want to go there.

Can you blame him?

[Özim]

I'm very happy with the Pepe signing personally, looks a very good player, perhaps he's not quite as prolific from open play as his goals suggest as 9 were penalties apparently but he'll still score a few and create and give us a decent option on the wing at last.

Have to say tho until Koscielny kicked up a fuss it didn't look like we wanted a centre back (and we still haven't got one with the season approaching) which IMO would have been a massive oversight. When you concede as many goals as we did last season (and have done for the last few seasons), clearly defence is a priority and I'm confused why it didn't seem so for us, I would have expected to have signed some defenders by now, a top team starts with a very good defence, without that you'll never challenge so I don't understand why all we've signed is attack minded players so far.

[Mac76]

i guess a problem is simply that in theory we have loads of CBs on the books - Sokratis, Kos, Holding, Chambers, Mustafi (if you can call him a defender but apparently some do...), even Medley and until recently Bielek

i note we've offloaded Takuma Asano and one or two others so we're reducing the wage bill and hopefully the £10m for Bielik will be channelled back into getting a decent CB - but time's running out...

[I am invisible]

Not gonna lie - I'm starting to panic about the defence now!

[Marc Overmars]

It's unlikely that much will change as far as I'm concerned, unless Pepe gels with Auba and Laca to form an attacking trio as good as the one Liverpool have, then maybe we will be able to blow teams away before the defence can undermine everything. Having Holding and Bellerin back soon will help but lets not pretend we were rock solid before their injuries. We need at least 2 new faces at the back IMO but I accept it's not just about bringing in defenders, the midfield also needs to protect them rather than getting overrun. Looking at a certain Swiss CM...

If we can at least get Tierney done then I'd say it's been a good use of our limited funds this summer. On paper anyway. How that plays out on the pitch god knows.

[Özim]

It's unlikely that much will change as far as I'm concerned, unless Pepe gels with Auba and Laca to form an attacking trio as good as the one Liverpool have, then maybe we will be able to blow teams away before the defence can undermine everything. Having Holding and Bellerin back soon will help but lets not pretend we were rock solid before their injuries. We need at least 2 new faces at the back IMO but I accept it's not just about bringing in defenders, the midfield also needs to protect them rather than getting overrun. Looking at a certain Swiss CM...

If we can at least get Tierney done then I'd say it's been a good use of our limited funds this summer. On paper anyway. How that plays out on the pitch god knows.

I think we really needed CB,, the ones we have just won't fix the issues we have, Tierney would be great but he'll be out for 7-8 weeks now so the defence will be exactly the same as before which is a real worry considering it was our achilles heel, it's obviously exciting to get a winger and we did need one for sure but the defence was definitely the priority.

I agree about the protection for the defence, Xhaka just isn't up to it, a substandard player who will always be a liability for us and isn't going to help us improve our defending.

Also one injured to Leno and we're relying on Martinez and he's been pretty error prone in pre-season.

[SMatthews]

Not gonna lie - I'm starting to panic about the defence now!

We all know it's a problem - even with new faces in no-one will have faith until we see it played out on the pitch.

Even if we got Tierney, we'd have to wait until September to see him, Holding and Bellerin in our back line - so the start of the season could be fun.

[dazthegooner]

- so the start of the season could be fun.[/QUOTE]

Sadist... ;)

[Özim]

Don't understand why we're persisting with AMN at right back, he can't play there, why has noone spotted this, we should have got a backup for Bellerin, AMN isn't an option there, not sure why Emery can't see it.

[I am invisible]

It's unlikely that much will change as far as I'm concerned, unless Pepe gels with Auba and Laca to form an attacking trio as good as the one Liverpool have, then maybe we will be able to blow teams away before the defence can undermine everything. Having Holding and Bellerin back soon will help but lets not pretend we were rock solid before their injuries. We need at least 2 new faces at the back IMO but I accept it's not just about bringing in defenders, the midfield also needs to protect them rather than getting overrun. Looking at a certain Swiss CM...

If we can at least get Tierney done then I'd say it's been a good use of our limited funds this summer. On paper anyway. How that plays out on the pitch god knows.

I'm feeling more upbeat about the midfield than I am the defence. The big issue for me there wasn't so much the lack of defensive protection that the CMs were providing, but all the easily forced errors they've been making. It's been waaaaaaaaaay too easy to pressure them into make stupid mistakes or suicidal / hospital passes right in front of the defence, and we haven't really had anyone in there who could carry the ball away from danger either - if a comfortable pass wasn't on then we looked like we were in trouble straightaway! Someone like Cazorla or Rosicky would have been ideal for countering a high-press, and I'm hoping we might have added that kind of skillset with Ceballos. Willock has also looked surprisingly comfortable as a 6 or an 8 in preseason and, it might just be me, but I also think Guendouzi's decision-making has looked less rash?

Hopefully the additions of Pepe, Martinelli, Nelson, Nketiah and Saka to the wings and attack should give our opponents a little more to worry about on the counter, so maybe that will take a little bit of pressure off of the defence and midfield too?

[Özim]

We'll have to see, but pre-season hasn't been great defensively and we haven't changed anything there, to be honest I just don't understand the thinking in not having signed any defenders with a few days to go until the season starts, even if someone comes in, it would have been better for them to play pre-season to build up a bit of an understanding with the other defenders.

Other than Tierney we've shown no interested in defenders, this despite having an issue at CB, left back and also right back where AMN is incapable of being cover for Bellerin who won't be back for the start of the season and even when he does come back will take time to get back up to speed, I just don't understand the thinking, has Emery not seen the state of the defence, people said it was his first season and he just wants to give people a change and that's fair enough, but he should have then noticed the defence isn't up to scratch and done something about it.

Our attack will be great, no doubt about that so we'll score plenty and it will be exciting to see Pepe, Auba and Laca and also hopefully the likes of Nelso etc but anytime they're misfiring we'll struggle to get a result.

If we can find a couple of defenders of course, then all that may change.

[SMatthews]

Malcolm made his debut at Zenit yesterday and was greeted by signs from the ultra's saying "don't sign black players"

They are apparently trying to sell him 3 days after he was signed. Pretty sickening.

[Letters]

Sadist... ;)

I think you'll find Zim is the saddest

(dostoy running him close though)

[dostoy]

We are realists not sad.

If Sokratis or Chambers get injured, what happens then ?

Mustafi plays I presume and Monreal will play as there is no-one else.

Its unbelievable the defence has not been strengthened.

Emery says that might be the end of Arsenal spending this summer.

Am I wrong with any of that ?

[Letters]

Its unbelievable the defence has not been strengthened.
Right. I don't disagree with that.

But you keep saying you're a "realist", wasn't it you who said it would be a "miracle" if we finish in the top 4 or won a trophy this season.
We literally finished 2 points off the top 4 last season and got to a major Cup Final.
No, we didn't achieve either of those things but we were close enough to suggest that it wouldn't be a "miracle" if we achieved either this year.
Saying it would be isn't "realism", it's just wallowing in your own misery for reasons best known to yourself.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

I'm very happy with the Pepe signing personally, looks a very good player, perhaps he's not quite as prolific from open play as his goals suggest as 9 were penalties apparently but he'll still score a few and create and give us a decent option on the wing at last.

Have to say tho until Koscielny kicked up a fuss it didn't look like we wanted a centre back (and we still haven't got one with the season approaching) which IMO would have been a massive oversight. When you concede as many goals as we did last season (and have done for the last few seasons), clearly defence is a priority and I'm confused why it didn't seem so for us, I would have expected to have signed some defenders by now, a top team starts with a very good defence, without that you'll never challenge so I don't understand why all we've signed is attack minded players so far.

6 of those pens he actually won himself, which I think is encouraging.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Mustafi may actually start the season regardless of any injuries I'm afraid. Wouldn't surprise me one bit.

[dostoy]

Right. I don't disagree with that.

But you keep saying you're a "realist", wasn't it you who said it would be a "miracle" if we finish in the top 4 or won a trophy this season.
We literally finished 2 points off the top 4 last season and got to a major Cup Final.
No, we didn't achieve either of those things but we were close enough to suggest that it wouldn't be a "miracle" if we achieved either this year.
Saying it would be isn't "realism", it's just wallowing in your own misery for reasons best known to yourself.

I think it would be a miracle to finish in the top 4 as Arsenal seem to mess it up even when its on a plate for them.

As the defence has not been strengthened and Mustafi and Monreal will be playing far more than they should, it does not inspire confidence at all.

I am not miserable, I just don't get carried away like a some people on here.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Don't understand why we're persisting with AMN at right back, he can't play there, why has noone spotted this, we should have got a backup for Bellerin, AMN isn't an option there, not sure why Emery can't see it.

Let's be honest.... it would have been more of a surprise to see us plug ALL of the holes in one summer after we failed to achieve our targets.

[SMatthews]

Sessegnon close to signing for Spurs.

[SMatthews]

City signing Cancelo from Juve with Danilo going the other way.

[Bumble]

well I suppose Liverpool actually had there front three in place first before Van Dijk and Adilson, so maybe that's our approach.

I still think we should finish top 4. Chelsea haven't improved, United have issues even Spurs the manager is getting a bit twitchy (no pun intended).

Perhaps play AMN in midfield, let Jenks play RB as at least he is trained for that position and will always give 100%. CBs can be Sok, Chambers and Holding when he is back.... bit light there (Mustafi deliberately left out). Left back Monreal/Kosalinac unless we sign Tierney and Monreal can be another CB option.

[fakeyank]

well I suppose Liverpool actually had there front three in place first before Van Dijk and Adilson, so maybe that's our approach.

I still think we should finish top 4. Chelsea haven't improved, United have issues even Spurs the manager is getting a bit twitchy (no pun intended).

Perhaps play AMN in midfield, let Jenks play RB as at least he is trained for that position and will always give 100%. CBs can be Sok, Chambers and Holding when he is back.... bit light there (Mustafi deliberately left out). Left back Monreal/Kosalinac unless we sign Tierney and Monreal can be another CB option.

:gp:

Agree with playing AMN in midfield.. I rate him over Xhaka any day, and think he might be better than Guen-sidewayspassing-dozi as well.

[SMatthews]

well I suppose Liverpool actually had there front three in place first before Van Dijk and Adilson, so maybe that's our approach.

I still think we should finish top 4. Chelsea haven't improved, United have issues even Spurs the manager is getting a bit twitchy (no pun intended).

Perhaps play AMN in midfield, let Jenks play RB as at least he is trained for that position and will always give 100%. CBs can be Sok, Chambers and Holding when he is back.... bit light there (Mustafi deliberately left out). Left back Monreal/Kosalinac unless we sign Tierney and Monreal can be another CB option.

Not sure AMN has proven himself as a midfielder - especially when he sees himself as a bloody winger. There's too much competition in the middle of the pitch for him to get a shot there I think. Not sure he'll make it long-term at the club. Top 4 is definitely on, with no Hazard Chelsea are losing a lot of assists and goals they haven't replaced and Man Utd - well, OGS.

[I am invisible]

6 of those pens he actually won himself, which I think is encouraging.

Pepe + VAR :patrice:

Then again, Mustafi / Sokratis + VAR :ilt:

[Marc Overmars]

United complete the signing of Maguire for £80m.

Apparently Real Madrid have offered cash plus James for Pogba, but it’s been rejected.

[GP]

Not sure AMN has proven himself as a midfielder - especially when he sees himself as a bloody winger. There's too much competition in the middle of the pitch for him to get a shot there I think. Not sure he'll make it long-term at the club. Top 4 is definitely on, with no Hazard Chelsea are losing a lot of assists and goals they haven't replaced and Man Utd - well, OGS.

AMN has never said he's a winger. He's always said CM.

[SMatthews]

AMN has never said he's a winger. He's always said CM.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/arsenal-ainsley-maitland-niles-transfer-news-west-ham-preview-when-tv-online-a8723031.html

Hard to see when he rarely has a final ball. Think Wenger put him in as CM against type and that's stuck ever since. Whatever he wants to be, he isn't a RB. Tries his best but just isn't up to it.

[GP]

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/arsenal-ainsley-maitland-niles-transfer-news-west-ham-preview-when-tv-online-a8723031.html

Hard to see when he rarely has a final ball. Think Wenger put him in as CM against type and that's stuck ever since. Whatever he wants to be, he isn't a RB. Tries his best but just isn't up to it.

Fair enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSZaVeUMo6Y

Here he says centre mid. No 4.

[Özim]

:gp:

Agree with playing AMN in midfield.. I rate him over Xhaka any day, and think he might be better than Guen-sidewayspassing-dozi as well.

Totally agree, I think he should get his chance in midfield, think he'll be decent there, like you I rate him over Xhaka, we're not exactly heavily stocked in CM, we have Torreira, Guendouzi, Ceballos and then Guendouzi and Willock and of course the liability Xhaka.

Willock is young so will take a while to play regularly, Ceballos is only here for one season (he wants to go back to Real) and Xhaka is substandard. So in truth we only have Torreira and Guendouzi as mainstays.

[Özim]

6 of those pens he actually won himself, which I think is encouraging.

Yes that's also good, but all I was saying is his 22 goals are perhaps a little misleading, he may not be a prolific goalscorer for us, but he's got a lot of other attributes even if he isn't and it's great to finally have a winger again.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Pepe + VAR :patrice:

Then again, Mustafi / Sokratis + VAR :ilt:

Quite!

[I am invisible]

Quite!

All of our matches are literally going to go on for days!

[I am invisible]

Bild reporting that we've had a €60m bid for Upamecano (20yo French CB @Leipzig) rejected :popcorn:

[SMatthews]

Grimaldo is the new LB name being banded about now.

[SMatthews]

United complete the signing of Maguire for £80m.

https://i.postimg.cc/WbZ5LJn8/ac-social-harry-maguire-shkodran-mustafi-1080.png (https://postimages.org/)

:lol:

You can do anything with stats.

[Bumble]

Bild reporting that we've had a €60m bid for Upamecano (20yo French CB @Leipzig) rejected :popcorn:

who?

are we literally gambling all our budget over the next 5 years on our signings. If we don't get CL next season we cant sign anyone ever again. Well until Ozil and Mukhi and Mustafi and Xhaka eventually leave on free transfers.

[LDG]

Grimaldo is the new LB name being banded about now.

The love child of Grimandi and Ronaldo?

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

All of our matches are literally going to go on for days!

Welcome to the new age. Next decade, rage against the machine!

[SMatthews]

Rooney might come back as player-coach for Derby :lol:

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

who?

are we literally gambling all our budget over the next 5 years on our signings. If we don't get CL next season we cant sign anyone ever again. Well until Ozil and Mukhi and Mustafi and Xhaka eventually leave on free transfers.

:lol:

[SMatthews]

Cahill has gone to Palace.

[Mac76]

The love child of Grimandi and Ronaldo?

:lol: nice one

[Mac76]

All of our matches are literally going to go on for days!

It's often felt like that anyway in recent years...

[Letters]

https://i.ibb.co/y5fFzhD/Arsenal-Squad.jpg

:lol:

[Mac76]

https://i.ibb.co/y5fFzhD/Arsenal-Squad.jpg

:lol:

Good idea, bad execution, Mustafi etc are at the back, Auba etc at the front...

I believe the phrase is 'could do better' :lol:

[SMatthews]

Talk that Jenkinson might end up at Nottm Forest come Thursday.

Andy Carroll heading back to the barcodes :rolleyes:

Spurs might also be tying up Lo Celso, which would mean Eriksen goes.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02432/arsenal1_2432398b.jpg

:lol:

[Bumble]

Talk that Jenkinson might end up at Nottm Forest come Thursday.

Andy Carroll heading back to the barcodes :rolleyes:

Spurs might also be tying up Lo Celso, which would mean Eriksen goes.

Surely keep Jenkinson - we only have 2 senior right backs and the other is injured. he isn't great but he at least works hard.

still think if we signed Tierney and got rid of Mustafi that would be a very successful summer. Unfortunately we still stuck with Mikhi and Ozil but no one is going to pay them stupid money apart from China.

[Özim]

We've agreed to sell Koscielny to Bordeaux for 4.6 million, really is a pittance in todays market but I guess he's getting on and we needed to get rid. Shame we can't do the same for Mikhitaryan, Mustafi and Xhaka.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49247291

[Marc Overmars]

Kos. :wave:

I think that means Jenkinson is our longest serving player...

[SMatthews]

Surely keep Jenkinson - we only have 2 senior right backs and the other is injured. he isn't great but he at least works hard.

still think if we signed Tierney and got rid of Mustafi that would be a very successful summer. Unfortunately we still stuck with Mikhi and Ozil but no one is going to pay them stupid money apart from China.

We have AMN and Jenks who both try hard but aren’t much use at RB. Time to get rid of Jenks, especially if we can get a few bob for him - although I think this might just be a loan. He’s managed to squeeze out an 8 year career somehow :lol:

[Özim]

Kos. :wave:

I think that means Jenkinson is our longest serving player...

How such a limited player has managed to stay with us for so long I'll never know, he's made a great living out of the move to Arsenal, if not for Wenger his life may have been very different.

[Özim]

Bild reporting that we've had a €60m bid for Upamecano (20yo French CB @Leipzig) rejected :popcorn:

This would be a great signing, expensive yes, but he's young so that would balances itself out over the years, he's a quality player too, would love us to sign him.

[I am invisible]

This would be a great signing, expensive yes, but he's young so that would balances itself out over the years, he's a quality player too, would love us to sign him.

I wonder if the penny has finally dropped about investing early in top talent in a rising market? Big fees involved, but the way things are going these players could all be worth twice that in a year or two!

Don't know if it would be enough to persuade Leipzig to sell, but it's encouraging that we still have a loose €60m lying around! That's got to be enough to get us someone decent at CB before the window shuts, right? Right? :unsure:

[SMatthews]

Nketiah being shipped out on loan. Hardly surprising.

Interest in Mustafi but no offers yet - thankfully we have until the end of August to ship him out.

[Mac76]

Nketiah being shipped out on loan. Hardly surprising.

Interest in Mustafi but no offers yet - thankfully we have until the end of August to ship him out.

where's Eddie going on loan to?

and yes fingers crossed re Mustafi :pray:

[Marc Overmars]

Upamecano would be a hell of a coup. I imagine we will have to quickly flog Mustafi to raise that cash?

[I am invisible]

Julian Nagelsmann doesn't want to lose Upamecano because he sees him as key part of the 3-man defence he wants to play.

You know who else plays in a 3-man defence? Mustafi!

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

If we were linked to an England U21 centre back with a very good reputation but who wasn't totally proven and hadn't achieved much for 60m Euros would we all be excited, or complaining it's too much money...and how good is he really? and English player's cost too much.....

[Bumble]

Julian Nagelsmann doesn't want to lose Upamecano because he sees him as key part of the 3-man defence he wants to play.

You know who else plays in a 3-man defence? Mustafi!
€60m + mustafi and we will pay 50% of his wages for his contract.

[SMatthews]

Upamecano would be a hell of a coup. I imagine we will have to quickly flog Mustafi to raise that cash?

Depends how we wanted to structure the deal. But seeing as he apparently has a 100m Euro release clause then there’s no chance. He has two years left on his contract.

[SMatthews]

where's Eddie going on loan to?

and yes fingers crossed re Mustafi :pray:

One of the Bristol clubs I think and some teams abroad.

[Marc Overmars]

If we were linked to an England U21 centre back with a very good reputation but who wasn't totally proven and hadn't achieved much for 60m Euros would we all be excited, or complaining it's too much money...and how good is he really? and English player's cost too much.....

I don't think it's just English players that are hideously overpriced anymore.

[SMatthews]

Apparently it was an enquiry and not an official bid - although that may still happen.

Spurs want Fernandes and Lo Celso, with Eriksen being sold if they do.

[SMatthews]

Rooney to Derby as player/coach is happening in January :lol:

L’Equipe still banging the drum about Coutinho on loan too.

[GP]

Koscielny has officially gone to Bordeaux.

Shame how it ended. He's been a great player for us.

[SMatthews]

Disgraced himself by the end and ensured any legacy he built is badly tarnished.

Minimal info about it on the site too, which says a lot after 9 years.

[Globalgunner]

Koscielny has officially gone to Bordeaux.

Shame how it ended. He's been a great player for us.

Respectfully disagree. Bang average, no leadership, easily overawed. No Sol Campbell he was

[Mac76]

Respectfully disagree. Bang average, no leadership, easily overawed. No Sol Campbell he was

equally respectfully disagree with you and agree with GP

Kos was a high-class player who was run into the ground by Wenger and as a result grew a little less reliable but always threw his body on the line for us

farewell Kos and thanks for the great years of excellent-class service - enjoy Bordeaux

[Marc Overmars]

Meh. He was ok, much better when he had a good partner. Certainly no leader.

The stalwart of our banter years.

A good value signing considering the service we got from him but no legend, the way he’s left ensured he will not be remembered that fondly once the dust has settled.

[Marc Overmars]

Minimal info about it on the site too, which says a lot after 9 years.

A few stats about his career then this:


We decided to sanction his move to Bordeaux once we agreed acceptable transfer terms.

We thank Laurent for his contribution to the club and wish him all the best for the future.

Heartfelt for our longest serving guy. :lol:

Did the dirty on the club and got turfed. Well done to Raul and Vinai. 4.6m for a 33 year old clapped out player is good too.

[SMatthews]

A few stats about his career then this:



Heartfelt for our longest serving guy. :lol:

Did the dirty on the club and got turfed. Well done to Raul and Vinai. 4.6m for a 33 year old clapped out player is good too.

They also make sure to mention they plucked him from the French second division, i.e., we made you the player you are.

We got a good price for an ageing player and someone many would’ve let go for free instead.

He was the one who chose not to go on tour, now he’s got to deal with the consequences of that. He’ll feel it more once he’s retired and despite this being the longest and most successful part of his career, he won’t be able to return in any capacity to receive a warm welcome.

[SMatthews]

Eriksen in talks to go to Utd.

[SMatthews]

The Coutinho thing seems to be that he was offered to us (not sure if on loan) but we want to get a CB before considering anything else.

[SMatthews]

Upamecano not happening and might be Rugani instead.

[Gooner23]

The Coutinho thing seems to be that he was offered to us (not sure if on loan) but we want to get a CB before considering anything else.

Pleased to hear it. All our efforts should be on the defence right now. Sounds like Barca are pimping him out to everyone.

[dostoy]

What has happened to Mavropanos ?

When either Sokrartis or Chambers get injured, surely he will play instead of Mustafi as Holding will not be ready.

[SMatthews]

Pleased to hear it. All our efforts should be on the defence right now. Sounds like Barca are pimping him out to everyone.

I think us getting Tierney will prob depend on Celtic getting a replacement beforehand too.

[Gooner23]

Tierney would be a bonus signing. Centre back surely more important? Right now we have essentially swapped Chambers for Kos.

[Özim]

equally respectfully disagree with you and agree with GP

Kos was a high-class player who was run into the ground by Wenger and as a result grew a little less reliable but always threw his body on the line for us

farewell Kos and thanks for the great years of excellent-class service - enjoy Bordeaux

The guy put in some very good performances but in the end he was always error prone and with him you always knew that in a big game he could give away a goal with one of those lapses.

Decent player, but personally won't lose any sleep over him going, as someone said he was no Sol Campbell.

[Özim]

Meh. He was ok, much better when he had a good partner. Certainly no leader.

The stalwart of our banter years.

A good value signing considering the service we got from him but no legend, the way he’s left ensured he will not be remembered that fondly once the dust has settled.

Pretty much.

[SMatthews]

Tierney would be a bonus signing. Centre back surely more important? Right now we have essentially swapped Chambers for Kos.

I agree - although Tierney seems to have been a priority for quite a while.

[SMatthews]

Now Spuds being linked to Coutinho :lol:

[dazthegooner]

Bayern want Willock yeah good luck with that...

[Marc Overmars]

Bayern want Willock yeah good luck with that...

They were willing to pay 45m for Hudson-Odoi earlier this year.

Slap a massive price tag on him and see what happens I say. Willock does seem like he could be pretty good though, but everyone has a price...

[SMatthews]

I think Bayern are in a bit of a mess and they might want their own Sancho. I agree, if they were willing to pay really stupid money for Willock, I’d be alright selling. Although, I don’t think they have that kind of cash.

Elsewhere, loan fee for Courinho being kicked around is 25m euros :lol: Barca mugged themselves right off with this one.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Kos, served the club well but has tarnished his legacy and lost sight of why the career he has had was possible at all.

Off you pop.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

https://twitter.com/btsportfootball/status/1158811326849978368

Kos. :doh:

Stupid twat.

Our heroic captain. :bow:

[Master Splinter]

I nominate Ozil, Xhaka and Mustafi for the vacant captain's position.

It's the only way their exit becomes a guarantee.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

With Koscielny's departure, every single player, even from the bench of the Cup Final defeat to Birmingham has now departed from the club. :lol:

Not bad in 8 years.

[SMatthews]

https://twitter.com/btsportfootball/status/1158811326849978368

Kos. :doh:

Stupid twat.

Our heroic captain. :bow:

Fuck that guy.

Bordeaux finished 14th last season. Back to your level son.

[SMatthews]

We’ve apparently agreed terms with Rugani, might be a 2 year loan at first, then a obligation to buy at 40m euros.

[dostoy]

Another Wenger idiot gone.

So many still to get rid of though.

Good riddance, but Arsenal needed a CB anyway so surely there HAS to be one coming in soon.

[SMatthews]

Nketiah heading to Bristol City on loan. Medical tomorrow.

[Unai Tea]

We’ve apparently agreed terms with Rugani, might be a 2 year loan at first, then a obligation to buy at 40m euros.

Pretty much praying we get this over the line

[GP]

With Koscielny's departure, every single player, even from the bench of the Cup Final defeat to Birmingham has now departed from the club. :lol:

Not bad in 8 years.

Should've dumped them all that day

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

Meh. He was ok, much better when he had a good partner. Certainly no leader.

The stalwart of our banter years.

A good value signing considering the service we got from him but no legend, the way he’s left ensured he will not be remembered that fondly once the dust has settled.

He seemed to always try his best but now will never be remembered as anything special.

Hopefully the manager plugs the hole quickly so this prima donna is never mentioned again.

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

.

[SMatthews]

Pretty much praying we get this over the line

Looks like it will happen and probably get finalised Thursday. He ticks a lot of the right boxes we’re looking for. Just have to hope he’s good.

[SMatthews]

There’s even talk DC United might be interested in taking Ozil in January when Rooney leaves.

[Unai Tea]

Looks like it will happen and probably get finalised Thursday. He ticks a lot of the right boxes we’re looking for. Just have to hope he’s good.

I don't think he'll transform our defense. But if he's solid and competent and keeps Mustafi off the pitch, we're laughing.

He's a bit odd though. Player of the year and stuff early on, but only plays 20-25 games a season. Could understand if he was 22, but he's 25. Did lose some time to an ACL I guess. And Juventus have a good pair of defenders already.

[SMatthews]

I don't think he'll transform our defense. But if he's solid and competent and keeps Mustafi off the pitch, we're laughing.

He's a bit odd though. Player of the year and stuff early on, but only plays 20-25 games a season. Could understand if he was 22, but he's 25. Did lose some time to an ACL I guess. And Juventus have a good pair of defenders already.

ESPN’s Matteo Bonetti has said he had a lot of potential under Sarri at Empoli but hasn’t been the best at Juve. Questions about his strength and decision making. Have to hope he gets it together if he arrives here or it could be more of the same.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Not comfortable with hearing he is the Italian Mustafi.....

[Marc Overmars]

Never heard of Rugani but hopefully we this over the line so we at least have something fresh to look forward to at the back.

2 year loan with an obligation to buy. :lol:

If he’s shit we’re fucked but I guess we’ve done what we can this summer to work around our budget.

[Marc Overmars]

https://twitter.com/btsportfootball/status/1158811326849978368

Kos. :doh:

Stupid twat.

Our heroic captain. :bow:

Shows exactly how little being the Arsenal captain means.

What a cunt.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

So we allowed the move....then got two French fingers stuck up at us.

[Marc Overmars]

Dybala to Spurs could be on. Italian press saying 65m deal has been agreed.

[SMatthews]

Dybala to Spurs could be on. Italian press saying 65m deal has been agreed.

It’s also been said they are getting Lo Celso, Coutinho and Fernandes - and Llorente is coming back on half the wages :lol:

[Chippy]

It’s also been said they are getting Lo Celso, Coutinho and Fernandes - and Llorente is coming back on half the wages :lol:
Let's hope it is fake news. He will certainly improve those fuckers. They seem to have lot of spare cash :(

[SMatthews]

Let's hope it is fake news. He will certainly improve those fuckers. They seem to have lot of spare cash :(

They got the CL final and have a low wage bill. But also bought a big player and then sold an established first timer. If they buy anymore that will also probably be offset by selling Eriksen.

[Özim]

Never heard of Rugani but hopefully we this over the line so we at least have something fresh to look forward to at the back.

2 year loan with an obligation to buy. :lol:

If he’s shit we’re fucked but I guess we’ve done what we can this summer to work around our budget.

Rugani is basically a sub for Juve, I'll take him for sure if it means Mustafi is done, but personally would prefer Upemecano.

[Mac76]

Got to admit the Kos thing is dosappointing, but maybe the club just pissed him off royally...

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Perhaps he has done us a favour if this shows how he can really be.

[rodders]

I have felt less enthusiasm re new season and Arsenal in general than I do now. To my mind the owners do not care about the club for any other reason than personal financial gain.

[Letters]

To my mind the owners do not care about the club for any other reason than personal financial gain.

Is that a new revelation?

[SMatthews]

Looks like Welbz will be ending up at Watford.

[SMatthews]

Coutinho has turned down a loan move to Spurs :lol:

[SMatthews]

Jenks has gone to Nottm Forest on a permanent deal for about £2m I think.

https://www.arsenal.com/news/jenko-joins-nottingham-forest

[Thierrymon]

Good value for Not Forest.

[SMatthews]

Slowly clearing the decks. Good thing is that we have until the end of the month to get rid of Mustafi and Elneny - although I’ve heard nothing about the latter.

[dostoy]

Elneny going to Galatasaray apparently.

Has Mavropanos played in pre-season and will he be included in the squad or is he going on loan ?

[dazthegooner]

Think he's injured and out for a few months.

[LDG]

Seems like we’re still in for Coutinho, but CB is priority apparently.

What a weird summer :blink:

[Marc Overmars]

Jenkinson. :rose:

So ends the man, the myth, the legend.

[GP]

The Archbishop of Banterbury

[Özim]

Jenkinson. :rose:

So ends the man, the myth, the legend.

Finally got rid of this guy, took long enough!

Glad we're getting rid of some deadwood at last, this squad needed to be dismantled and rebuilt, starting to see a bit of that at least.

Can't wait for the day when Xhaka, Mustafi etc are no longer here.

[SMatthews]

Apparently Neverton have bid £30m for Iwobi :popcorn:

[GP]

In today's market? Seems cheap.

[SMatthews]

They seem to have the money so I’d take £40-£50m if we can get it.

[Chippy]

In today's market? Seems cheap.

Not for Iwobi.

Sell him, he's sh**.

[Marc Overmars]

Iwobi is still young enough to kick on, so I'd rather keep him but of course if Neverton want to pay something stupid that would be acceptable considering he won't be a regular starter for us.

[SMatthews]

Bid rejected apparently, but they might be coming back again.

[Özim]

Hope Everton buy him, don't rate the guy, no end product whatsoever, much like many of these players from the Wenger era.

[Marc Overmars]

Bid rejected apparently, but they might be coming back again.

Seems like they’re pretty desperate for a winger/attacking mid. They even bid Zaha’s asking price only to have that rejected.

[dostoy]

How old does Rooney look these days ?

He could pass for 45.

[Bumble]

How old does Rooney look these days ?

He could pass for 45.

still be a better CB than Mustafi

[Bumble]

Hope Everton buy him, don't rate the guy, no end product whatsoever, much like many of these players from the Wenger era.

think £30m is a good price for someone who doesn't do much and really is only a fringe player after all.

with the signing of Pepe a winger - why not try for another winger then we can play with a front 4 and have two deep sitting CMs to help out at the back and let the front 4 cause havoc.

bale :getcoat:

[dostoy]

Bale is on massive wages and he can play golf whenever he wants.

[Bumble]

Bale is on massive wages and he can play golf whenever he wants.

not on a perm deal but one year loan obviously not going to happen. but another pacey winger would be good. as we don't like defenders at arsenal

[dazthegooner]

think £30m is a good price for someone who doesn't do much and really is only a fringe player after all.


bale :getcoat: :wwf:

[SMatthews]

Apparently Iwobi won’t be going anywhere and neither will Rugani or Upamecano :lol:

[Marc Overmars]

Good luck to Welbz at Watford. Hope he can stay clear of injuries and resurrect his career.

[Globalgunner]

News abuzz that we are in talks to buy David Liuz from Chelsea. Will they sell, is it just a ruse from us to force Leipzig to sell Upamecano?

Selling Mustafi is a cert if true

[SMatthews]

Zaha has put in a transfer request it seems.

Although f knows where he's going as no-one is paying the stupid money Palace want.

[SMatthews]

Luiz apparently wants the move, although he signed a 2 year deal recently so can't really do much. It almost happened last year too.

Not sure if this would be better, or worse, than Mustafi.

Too much hair on the pitch if he plays with Guendouzi.

[GP]

When Guendouzi sees Luiz in training

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/023/397/C-658VsXoAo3ovC.jpg

[SMatthews]

Emery said in a Sky Sports interview that all their other first choice CB options proved too expensive.

Looks like it's Luiz or Mustafi bust.

[dostoy]

Why would Luiz want to come to Arsenal instead of playing for Chelsea ?

I don't understand it ?

[Globalgunner]

Luiz apparently wants the move, although he signed a 2 year deal recently so can't really do much. It almost happened last year too.

Not sure if this would be better, or worse, than Mustafi.

Too much hair on the pitch if he plays with Guendouzi.

Anything, or anyone is better than Mustafi. He guarantees a 10 point loss every season

[SMatthews]

I guess losing 9 points with Luiz could keep us secure in fifth.

[dazthegooner]

Emery said in a Sky Sports interview that all their other first choice CB options proved too expensive.

Looks like it's Luiz or Mustafi bust.

He's said that a few times and we've ended up signing someone soon after.

[SMatthews]

Ornstein has said Tierney is still a target (weird why no bid has been leaked), Nketiah might go for Leeds on loan instead and we WILL sell Iwobi if Everton stump up the cash.

[Marc Overmars]

I'd have Luiz here for the season, if we're unable to get anyone else.

Placeholder for Saliba.

[SMatthews]

He's said that a few times and we've ended up signing someone soon after.

Doesn't help that everyone knows how desperate we are for a CB and are looking to rinse a PL club for as much money as possible.

[Globalgunner]

Very Ok with selling Iwobi. 40m is 30m too much if i was buying

[SMatthews]

I'd have Luiz here for the season, if we're unable to get anyone else.

Placeholder for Saliba.

Still not convinced - can we pin our hopes onto a then 19-year-old to be the linchpin for our defence in the PL? Can't think of anyone that young who has done at great job in this league. He'll have to be pretty bloody special.

[dostoy]

If Arsenal do get Luiz it might cause Aguero a few problems when they play Man City.

Those 2 get on ever so well.

[Marc Overmars]

We could use the money for Iwobi to buy a proper CB but I think this is all too late in the day now.

Still, it's definitely worth naming our price for him and seeing if Neverton want to pay up. I get the feeling this might only be a one time thing because they're clearly desperate for Zaha and Iwobi is just a last minute alternative.

[Özim]

We could use the money for Iwobi to buy a proper CB but I think this is all too late in the day now.

Still, it's definitely worth naming our price for him and seeing if Neverton want to pay up. I get the feeling this might only be a one time thing because they're clearly desperate for Zaha and Iwobi is just a last minute alternative.

We leave it until the last few days of the transfer window to look for a CB and then scramble around to try and get one, should have started a bit earlier really.

I'd have just accepted 30 million for Iwobi, it would top up the budget nicely, we don't need him and he's not really up to the standard we need anyhow.

[Globalgunner]

Jim White is gonna have a red letter deadline day 2mrw

[SMatthews]

https://i.postimg.cc/4yqR5TpC/EBXclps-Xk-AAMw5-N.jpg
He wasn't much cop, but I think this is why a lot of fans wish him the best.

[fakeyank]

https://i.postimg.cc/4yqR5TpC/EBXclps-Xk-AAMw5-N.jpg
He wasn't much cop, but I think this is why a lot of fans wish him the best.

Class

[SMatthews]

Aaaand the Rugani deal is back on again. Along with Tierney and Luiz.

[fakeyank]

Whats going to happen is that we dont end up signing anyone..

[SMatthews]

Too much noise for nothing to happen, there’s rarely this much talk around our transfers.

And £20m for Luiz for a player we’d get 2 years out of max? Not sure about that.

[Globalgunner]

Whats going to happen is that we dont end up signing anyone..

Which means that we are signing someone.

[SMatthews]

Lukaku could be on his way to Inter after they bid £70m.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

David Luiz. :lol:

Has it really come to this.

Great passer from the back and the very occasional freekick but um aside from that...

[Globalgunner]

David Lolz

[McNamara That Ghost...]

That weirdo Dharmesh Sheth says David Luiz will be done in the morning. Tierney tomorrow also.

:lol:

[Marc Overmars]

20m for Luiz? :unsure:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

David Luiz and Mustafi dream team. :cloud9:

Race to see who can vacate their centreback position first.

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

Class

If only our former captain had acted this maturely....... but yeah, he's French.

[Globalgunner]

David Luiz and Mustafi dream team. :cloud9:

Race to see who can vacate their centreback position first.

At least we wont completely suck a freekicks

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Xhaka to still take them. :bow:

[SMatthews]

Everton offering £35m for Iwobi, we want £40m apparently.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Spuds should be getting Lo Celso.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49269176

Eriksen. :wave:

[Marc Overmars]

Everton offering £35m for Iwobi, we want £40m apparently.

Would definitely take 40m.

[Globalgunner]

Would definitely take 40m.

For Gods sake. Just take the 35m

[dazthegooner]

For Gods sake. Just take the 35m

Hold out for 40m till the last minutes if not snap there fingers off for the 35m :)

[Mac76]

Hold out for 40m till the last minutes if not snap there fingers off for the 35m :)

If only to see Neverton try to do well with both Feo and Iwobi :haha:

[Mac76]

If only our former captain had acted this maturely....... but yeah, he's French.

Shawcross, Young, Alli... we can produce a fair few arseholes who are responsible for much worse than what Kos may have done

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Tierney spotted at all Scottish airports.

Track those flights. :scarf:

[Mac76]

Class

I always liked him as a decent bloke, even if not quite good enough for us

[fakeyank]

If only to see Neverton try to do well with both Feo and Iwobi :haha:

Oh dear.. worst ball control among top level football players.

Everton :pal: :lol:

[Unai Tea]

Tierney spotted at all Scottish airports.

Track those flights. :scarf:

Sky reporting we've signed him

[Marc Overmars]

Real Madrid are trying to sign Neymar.

Sounds like Tierney could be done. :popcorn:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Well agreed the fee.

He's ours. :bow:

[Globalgunner]

Scots getting shafted by the English again. Sorry Maccy. Couldnt help myself

[McNamara That Ghost...]

I'm not Scottish!

[Globalgunner]

I'm not Scottish!

I cannae believe it!. Been needling you for years on this forum thinking you were a Sporran wearer.
Lived 2 years in Motherwell. I feel a bit Scottish myself

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Jof's the Scottish one out of the Red names on here.

Irish on my Dad's side though.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Half the squad won't be ready for Newcastle anyway, so feels like it will be a while before we really see the team for the long term come together.

Would take Side show Bob over Mustafi.

[dazthegooner]

Well it's good that we've added quite a few players to the squad baring in mind that it probably will be the last time we do so until next season.

[SMatthews]

If we can get in a CB tomorrow, shift on Mustafi and Elneny, that is a pretty damn good window, addressing issues with the squad and shifting on dead wood, all in one window with limited funds.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Luiz for 8 million pounds apparently...

[SMatthews]

That would be more like it.

[LDG]

If you’d asked me to pick a reliable, no frills, disciplined CB to settle our defence down, I would definitely have said David Luiz

[SMatthews]

Cancelo to City is confirmed for £60m.

That’s £140m they’ve spent this summer. Guardiola was right, they def couldn’t afford Maguire :rolleyes:

[Marc Overmars]

Hopefully we can turf Mustafi but the fucker wants to stay and no one is interested anyway. :lol:

[Thierrymon]

If you’d asked me to pick a reliable, no frills, disciplined CB to settle our defence down, I would definitely have said David Luiz

:lol:

:ilt:

[GP]

Luiz for 8 million pounds apparently...

I've heard as low as 5m.

Look, he's not our first choice, but if it means we see less of Mustafi, is anyone going to complain?

[GP]

Whats going to happen is that we dont end up signing anyone..

I'll punch Letters in the face and balls

[Marc Overmars]

No issue with Luiz. He’s clearly a short term option as we can’t afford anyone younger and better for now.

I don’t think he’s any worse than what we currently have and in some ways he may even be better because he’s a ball playing CB, which fits into Emery’s style.

If the fee is reasonable then go for it.

[SMatthews]

With Tierney coming I guess that probably means Kola will be leaving, as Monreal will be one of the captains and only used as CB in a three, plus we just activated his one year extension. Although maybe Kola will go in January once Tierney is up to speed.

It’s all very much Emery’s team now - he has to make it count now.

[AFC Leveller]

Having Bellerin back and Tierney means our back 4 will be much better (and younger). It had been our problem for years and we have never fixed it properly. We need to build a team from the back and make sure we have a system for for the players we have.

David Luiz is a done deal according to some. Not the greatest or most reliable CBs but an upgrade on Mustafi and brings a calmness and experience. His range of passing is exceptional.

[LDG]

I've heard as low as 5m.

Look, he's not our first choice, but if it means we see less of Mustafi, is anyone going to complain?

Are you new here??

We ain’t gonna build Rome over night, but the summer business looks pretty awesome....

If football comes first for a change (even if it doesn’t work straight away), I think everyone can get on board with that.

[Letters]

https://mobile.twitter.com/arsenalviral/status/1159196160042688512?s=12

[Penguin]

Luiz is uselss at defendng so he'd fit right in at Arsenal. He's like a clone of Mustafi, chasing the ball and diving in without being aware of anything else happening around him.

If he's under £10m then it's not bad as a short term option though.

[Marc Overmars]

On the flip side he’s probably better at dealing with the press and may even distribute the ball better than Xhaka...

Granted that doesn’t mean much when he’s constantly charging out of position. :lol:

Don’t know how United have managed to bag 73m for Lukaku.

[Gooner23]

Very underwhelmed with the Luiz signing but hope to be proved wrong. I guess he fills a gap until Holding is back up to speed.

Glad Tierney looks to be happening. If that goes through and we get an experienced CB then overall it's been a decent summer.

We're finally clearing some of the dead wood as well so fair play to Raul for that

[Gooner23]

I've heard as low as 5m.

Look, he's not our first choice, but if it means we see less of Mustafi, is anyone going to complain?

8m confirmed by Orny just now. Both players to have medicals today so sounds like its just the formalities now.

At least we haven't had to overpay, with clubs knowing our desperate situation that could have easily happened. Sounds like the Rugani deal was a bullet dodged.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49275919

8 million say BBC.

[Marc Overmars]

Spuds are also close to a Dybala deal according to Ornstein.

Pretty good business from them really if they get him on top of Ndombele and Lo Celso.

[Penguin]

£8m isn't bad to to be fair. We had to get someone in after Koscielny fucked off.

Emery did say we tried to sign 'important, expensive' defenders so hopefully we can get one in next summer.

[Marc Overmars]

Decent price really with half recouped from Captain Cunts sale.

Has to be Luiz and Sok as the first choice pairing this season?

[SMatthews]

£8m isn't bad to to be fair. We had to get someone in after Koscielny fucked off.

Emery did say we tried to sign 'important, expensive' defenders so hopefully we can get one in next summer.

Think we’ll be back in for Upamecano at some point. He’ll only have one year left next summer. Leipzig were pretty stupid to insist on such a high price as his value is only going down from this point.