The next manager..

[Cripps]

Would love Buvac as a no2 but not keen as manager :unsure:

[KSE Comedy Club]

I sounds like horseshit, so it probably is :shrug:

[KSE Comedy Club]

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/953395/Next-Arsenal-manager-Arsene-Wenger-Luis-Enrique


The Gunners are on the hunt for a new boss to replace Arsene Wenger, who will step down at the end of the season.

And journalist Ian McGarry, a regular pundit on the Transfer Window Podcast, says the net is closing on on Enrique to replace Wenger at the Emirates.

He revealed: "I can say with some authority that there have been three meetings with Luis Enrique and his representatives in the past four months.

"And it’s my understanding that while there are other candidates, and no decision has been made, that’s the most attention Arsenal have paid to any one candidate in the time they’ve been looking for Arsene Wenger’s replacement."

Wenger last week claimed he was forced to step down as Arsenal manager earlier than he hoped.

[Power n Glory]

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/953395/Next-Arsenal-manager-Arsene-Wenger-Luis-Enrique

Pay no attention to the press. They had no clue about Wenger stepping down so anything they say about the club is pointless.

[Marc Overmars]

I would stick a tenner on Enrique tbh.

[Ralpheroo72]

I would stick a tenner on Stormy Daniels tbh.

:popcorn:

[Globalgunner]

From Bosnia: Liverpool’s Zeljko Buvac will take over from Wenger as Arsenal manager.
https://t.co/DhZHyCvOWQ #afc #lfc https://t.co/kdMAe3o2pp

:blink:

I actually thought his sudden resignation was to join up with Gerrard at Rangers.
Rather we signed him than Brendan Rodgers

Enrique still my first choice

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Pay no attention to the press. They had no clue about Wenger stepping down so anything they say about the club is pointless.

Case in point:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6182420/arsenal-wenger-replacement-shortlist-allegri-low-henry/

14 man shortlist. :haha:

Martin Lipton. :haha:

[AFC Leveller]

Gonna be tricky balancing his Harry Potter movies and the Arsenal manager's job....

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/31693201_2108804666023528_3935601094511558656_n.jp g?_nc_cat=0&oh=36f9c0d9f61bb8d27ab88d5cbb8eb9c6&oe=5B974106

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Basically unless it comes from Ornsetein believe nothing.

[Cripps]

What about gunnersaurus?

[Marc Overmars]

This Buvac stuff can’t be legit can it? :unsure:

We can’t seriously consider appointing someone who’s been a number 2 all his career. Even if he comes armed with Klopp’s methods.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Q5aqgla_td8/maxresdefault.jpg

TBF this Buvac stuff literally derives from Pravda.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

What about gunnersaurus?

Footballing dinosaur.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Footballing dinosaur.

:rimshot:

[KSE Comedy Club]

This Buvac stuff can’t be legit can it? :unsure:

We can’t seriously consider appointing someone who’s been a number 2 all his career. Even if he comes armed with Klopp’s methods.

You would seriously have to hope to fuck not.

I'm sure Ivan won't fuck this appointment up or his head is next on the chopping block!

[Penguin]

Skysports are saying that Mislintat is keen on Buvac. No quotes though so they're probably just making it up.

[Niall_Quinn]

Footballing dinosaur.

Plus he's green as fuck.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

He'd be good as a number two but then again why would he make at best a sideways (probably downwards considering current positions) move?

He needs to prove himself as a number one somewhere else before we can take a chance on him. Often well respected number twos can't make the transition to the top job - see Steve Clarke, the Dutch guy at Utd Metuthsijen or something, Phelan etc etc

[KSE Comedy Club]

Skysports are saying that Mislintat is keen on Buvac. No quotes though so they're probably just making it up.

Of course they are, the article even says at the bottom that Arsenal have said they will conduct their business in private.

So all Meedja outlets have no idea!

[Niall_Quinn]

He'd be good as a number two but then again why would he make at best a sideways (probably downwards considering current positions) move?

He needs to prove himself as a number one somewhere else before we can take a chance on him. Often well respected number twos can't make the transition to the top job - see Steve Clarke, the Dutch guy at Utd Metuthsijen or something, Phelan etc etc

He's not a real dinosaur. There's a bloke inside. Probably somebody with zero experience of management.

[GP]

He's not a real dinosaur. There's a bloke inside.

Source??

[Letters]

He's Arsenal's "The Stig".

[Niall_Quinn]

Source??

Insider information.

[Cripps]

Jardim's leaving Monaco :coffee:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Jardim's leaving Monaco :coffee:

Is it official? Haven't seen it reported anywhere apart from a few twitter accounts.


At any rate, he's someone I'd be more than happy with. A guy who knows how to work with youth players right when we've got our best crop of them for years.

[Gooner23]

Jardim or Allegri would be my top picks

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Yeah the Jardim leaving Monaco story was bollocks from Le Grove ..... not for the first time from him.

Why would Monaco allow him to leave knowing that he's contracted till 2020 and there's potentially a decent size pay off coming their way if we or god forbid Chelsea make an approach.

[Cripps]

Chris Mullar or whatever his name is says Jardim is leaving this summer. He's been pretty solid in terms of info to date so we'll see.

[Goonermerree]

Will Monaco be in the CL next season?

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Will Monaco be in the CL next season?

They've slipped down to third which means they'll have to play in a qualifying round.

They can still get second though and qualify automatically.

[Goonermerree]

They've slipped down to third which means they'll have to play in a qualifying round.

They can still get second though and qualify automatically.

Would Jardim want to leave a CL club for us if we don't qualify for CL?

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Would Jardim want to leave a CL club for us if we don't qualify for CL?

Yes. No doubt about it.

He can only do so much at Monaco because they're a selling club who lose all their best players season after season. Plus it's a small club (historically) and has a small stadium.

We're a much bigger draw than Monaco, CL football or not. Not to mention his salary would be higher here.

[Goonermerree]

Yes. No doubt about it.

He can only do so much at Monaco because they're a selling club who lose all their best players season after season. Plus it's a small club (historically) and has a small stadium.

We're a much bigger draw than Monaco, CL football or not. Not to mention his salary would be higher here.

lWell that's a positive. What this space then.

[Bumble]

because they're a selling club who lose all their best players season after season.



hmmmmm sounds like he would be well suited as Arsenal.

[Niall_Quinn]

hmmmmm sounds like he would be well suited as Arsenal.

He's the best suited of all those mentioned so far. Knows how to build a defensive team and has proven it. Knows how to build an attacking team and has proven it. Knows how to bring on young talent too. And absolutely, he knows how to drag his team along despite the guys upstairs.

It's still Conte for me though. For a year. Conte would completely change the philosophy of the club and that what we need. We need every last vestige of Wenger to be wiped away. We need the loser's attitude fumigated.

[Penguin]

Is it official? Haven't seen it reported anywhere apart from a few twitter accounts.


At any rate, he's someone I'd be more than happy with. A guy who knows how to work with youth players right when we've got our best crop of them for years.

We do?

[Xhaka Can’t]

Probably not. Certainly not when we consider the players that have been with us longest.

They are beyond repair now.

[GP]

We do?

Well we just won the u23 league.

[Letters]

Well we just won the u23 league.

Wenger :bow:



:ninja:

[dostoy]

The next manager has a massive job whoever he is.

I cannot see it being Conte as he might still be at Chelsea when Arsenal appoint a new manager.

I cannot see it being Ancelotti or Sarri as they are too old.

I cannot see it being Allegri because why would he leave Juventus to come here.

I hope its not Enrique as he did nothing at Roma and has only done well in Spain.

I hope its Jardim, he is only 43, has lots of experience in various countries and won Monaco the League title last season.

If its somebody I haven't mentioned I will probably be disappointed.

Its a massive task and will take at least 2 years to get Arsenal challenging for the PL title.

[Marc Overmars]

Well we just won the u23 league.

We also got absolutely spanked in the youth cup final.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

We do?

Maitland Niles
Nelson
Mavraponos
Iwobi
Willock
Nketiah

Heck even the likes of Bellerin, Chambers & Holding are still young and can easily be improved.

[Niall_Quinn]

Maitland Niles
Nelson
Mavraponos
Iwobi
Willock
Nketiah

Heck even the likes of Bellerin, Chambers & Holding are still young and can easily be improved.

Maitland Niles - Agreed
Nelson - Jury out, he's looked out of his depth more often than not.
Mavraponos - One appearance.
Iwobi - Going backwards.
Willock - See Nelson.
Nketiah - One impressive cameo.

They could all come good and I hope they do. But we're quite a way from a golden age of youth. Young players that will realistically break into the first team, anyway.

[KSE Comedy Club]

The next manager has a massive job whoever he is.

I cannot see it being Conte as he might still be at Chelsea when Arsenal appoint a new manager.

I cannot see it being Ancelotti or Sarri as they are too old.

I cannot see it being Allegri because why would he leave Juventus to come here.

I hope its not Enrique as he did nothing at Roma and has only done well in Spain.

I hope its Jardim, he is only 43, has lots of experience in various countries and won Monaco the League title last season.

If its somebody I haven't mentioned I will probably be disappointed.

Its a massive task and will take at least 2 years to get Arsenal challenging for the PL title.
Re: Enrique, he only had one season at both Roma and Celta so no real time to make his mark.

We all know who he had at Barca but he still brought through some of the youth players and changed he team around until he had it clicking into place he way he wanted.

He is stil my first choice, with Low / Jardim / Allegri all joint second.

[Cripps]

The next manager has a massive job whoever he is.

I cannot see it being Conte as he might still be at Chelsea when Arsenal appoint a new manager.

I cannot see it being Ancelotti or Sarri as they are too old.

I cannot see it being Allegri because why would he leave Juventus to come here.

I hope its not Enrique as he did nothing at Roma and has only done well in Spain.

I hope its Jardim, he is only 43, has lots of experience in various countries and won Monaco the League title last season.

If its somebody I haven't mentioned I will probably be disappointed.

Its a massive task and will take at least 2 years to get Arsenal challenging for the PL title.

Jardim and Allegri are the front runners but Allegri will have plenty of suitors and Jardim doesn't speak English which is a problem.

We have a young squad so Jardim could work wonders here.

We're in a very similar situation to Liverpool when Klopp arrived at Anfield. We are in Europa and have an under-utilised, fairly young squad. The new manager will have to juggle Europa in his first season but that'll be a great chance for silverware as I think we could easily win it.

He'll need a season minimum to assess the squad and decide who he wants to keep/sell. Managers usually need 3-4 windows to shape the squad into their own.

[Cripps]

The Mirror claim Jurgen Klopp was incensed after Zeljko Buvac kept an approach from*#Arsenal*secret. Buvac was contacted by Sven Mislintat about replacing Arsene Wenger as head coach. https://t.co/VvCrmqNK4Y

:popcorn:

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

I don't get why Enrique is anybody's first choice.....especially after as I keep saying his 'give manager's 6 months contracts' nonsense. Does that sound like the mentality of an Arsenal manager? I know Wenger has been there an age....but we don't need to model ourselves on Chelsea. We should be showing them how a proper football club behaves....not trying to aspire to their methods and following them. Little tin pot club.

The Arsenal manager's job is not some King's Cross hooker where everybody get's a turn. It should be aspired for and have some gravitas. I don't care if Marketing have adopted a similar model. They're spending is beyond the realm of ours.

Jardim all the way for me, but I like Allegri and a few others. I'd accept a name I hadn't heard of too, as long as he fulfils a certain criteria which you don't necessarily have to be a famous manager to have.

[Cripps]

I don't get why Enrique is anybody's first choice.....especially after as I keep saying his 'give manager's 6 months contracts' nonsense. Does that sound like the mentality of an Arsenal manager? I know Wenger has been there an age....but we don't need to model ourselves on Chelsea. We should be showing them how a proper football club behaves....not trying to aspire to their methods and following them. Little tin pot club.

The Arsenal manager's job is not some King's Cross hooker where everybody get's a turn. It should be aspired for and have some gravitas. I don't care if Marketing have adopted a similar model. They're spending is beyond the realm of ours.

Jardim all the way for me, but I like Allegri and a few others. I'd accept a name I hadn't heard of too, as long as he fulfils a certain criteria which you don't necessarily have to be a famous manager to have.

Blink's Friday nights :bow:

[The Emirates Gallactico]

I actually think Jardim's lack of english could actually be a benefit to start of with.

Remember all the years Pochettino used a translator just to avoid the stupid media questions?

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Blink's Friday nights :bow:

The station and hotel are looking lovely these days.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqLDOZO_uCY

Jardim owning Pep :bow:

[KSE Comedy Club]

I don't get why Enrique is anybody's first choice.....especially after as I keep saying his 'give manager's 6 months contracts' nonsense. Does that sound like the mentality of an Arsenal manager? I know Wenger has been there an age....but we don't need to model ourselves on Chelsea. We should be showing them how a proper football club behaves....not trying to aspire to their methods and following them. Little tin pot club.

The Arsenal manager's job is not some King's Cross hooker where everybody get's a turn. It should be aspired for and have some gravitas. I don't care if Marketing have adopted a similar model. They're spending is beyond the realm of ours.

Jardim all the way for me, but I like Allegri and a few others. I'd accept a name I hadn't heard of too, as long as he fulfils a certain criteria which you don't necessarily have to be a famous manager to have.
We would sign him up for 2-3 years minimum anyway so it makes it a moot point.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Don't know if it's some new AFTV goon trying to establish his own brand on the channel as an ITK but someone said that he has some insider knowledge that talks are at an advanced stage between the club and Allegri.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgNyD053GgU

[Niall_Quinn]

If the goggle eyed twat says it's happening then it's happening. Woo Hoo!

[Thierrymon]

If the goggle eyed twat says it's happening then it's happening. Woo Hoo!

Cant argue with the logic. Welcome Allegri! :jumpnana::dance:

[Xhaka Can’t]

One thing is for sure: our next Manager’s mother will be virtuous and pure.

[Letters]

One thing is for sure: our next Manager’s mother will be virtuous and pure.

His smile will also be 73% less cheeky than Wenger's.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

We would sign him up for 2-3 years minimum anyway so it makes it a moot point.

Not really. We need a manager without the short term modern day petro dollar manager way of thinking as we are a club who actually relies on spending what we actually earn.

Even if he didn't actually believe what he said and was just saying it for effect or trying to sound perversely clever..... I don't want a manger constantly saying stupid stuff he doesn't need to say.

If Wenger walked into the Barca job next season and won a league and CL double......that wouldn't make us necessarily wrong for wanting him out now.

[Penguin]

Maitland Niles
Nelson
Mavraponos
Iwobi
Willock
Nketiah

Heck even the likes of Bellerin, Chambers & Holding are still young and can easily be improved.

None of them really excite me. We'll be lucky if even one of them makes it as an Arsenal regular.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I hope more of them can provide you with a pleasant surprise. Only time will tell. More of them may go on to better things but with a new manager coming in, it won’t be surprising if some of them make their name somewhere else.

[Penguin]

We've had better crops of young players come through and they've disappointed. Look at Wilshere and Ramsey, they were both doing a lot more than the current batch at their age.

They might not even get an opportunity depending on who the new manager is. Some managers wont even look at the academy players and focus on buying ready made signings. It would be nice if the new manager combines both but I don't have high expectations.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Personally I think AMN & Mavraponos are almost certain to make it. Just need to be funnelled and need some good off-the-pitch guidance to not get involved in the silly shit that Jack did.

BTW, SSN Breaking News is that Enrique & Allegri are our top two targets but both have doubts about the club's management structure.

https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/993446464071270400

:lol::lol:

[Power n Glory]

Personally I think AMN & Mavraponos are almost certain to make it. Just need to be funnelled and need some good off-the-pitch guidance to not get involved in the silly shit that Jack did.

BTW, SSN Breaking News is that Enrique & Allegri are our top two targets but both have doubts about the club's management structure.

https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/993446464071270400

:lol::lol:

Why even quote these stories? The press have no clue about what's going on behind the scenes. They're always the last to know what's going on.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Why even quote these stories? The press have no clue about what's going on behind the scenes. They're always the last to know what's going on.

Yeah, I never believe any of that shite until I hear it from that specky fucker on AFTV.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Not really. We need a manager without the short term modern day petro dollar manager way of thinking as we are a club who actually relies on spending what we actually earn.

Even if he didn't actually believe what he said and was just saying it for effect or trying to sound perversely clever..... I don't want a manger constantly saying stupid stuff he doesn't need to say.

If Wenger walked into the Barca job next season and won a league and CL double......that wouldn't make us necessarily wrong for wanting him out now.
I don’t think Enrique is like that at all. He brought youth players through at Barca to strengthen the first team.

If it’s becuae the press have said he wants £200m to turn the squad around - then what do you expect?

We’ve all said that we have a lot of problems that need addressing and £200m is the minimum that we needs to spend in the current climate.

I like Enrique and Allegri and I will be happy with either of them taking over.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Why even quote these stories? The press have no clue about what's going on behind the scenes. They're always the last to know what's going on.

It's fun to speculate though. :bow:


Crossy confirms that Allegri is interested btw.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/max-allegri-interested-arsenal-job-12496408?1

[McNamara That Ghost...]

John Cross can fuck off.

DSL approved that message.

I want them to hurry up on the decision now though, all this nonsense speculation potentially through the World Cup? No thanks.

[GP]

Agreed. New manager must be confirmed before the world cup.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I thought it was Gunnar Regnew.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

PORNSTEIN has spoken :bow::bow:

https://i.imgur.com/yPIAXKm.png?1

[McNamara That Ghost...]

He has no idea either, he admits it. :lol:

[Mac76]

He has no idea either, he admits it. :lol:

:lol:

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Personally I think AMN & Mavraponos are almost certain to make it. Just need to be funnelled and need some good off-the-pitch guidance to not get involved in the silly shit that Jack did.

BTW, SSN Breaking News is that Enrique & Allegri are our top two targets but both have doubts about the club's management structure.

https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/993446464071270400

:lol::lol:

My money would be on AMN and Mavraponos to make it as top players too. Holding I think is also capable of being a top CB.

[AFC Leveller]

Holding has shown potential but he looks to be too nice and timid from what I’ve seen of him, hope I’m wrong though.

AMN has loads of potential as a DCM, so calm and composed on the ball and doesn’t look fazed on the pitch. Greek fella too, that’s why we need a good defensive coach to come in, we have so many good players who don’t look like they are coached properly.

[Marc Overmars]

Hopefully the Allegri rumours are true. Would be very confident of getting back into the top 4 with the tactical mind of a top Italian coach behind us.

[selassie]

Hopefully the Allegri rumours are true. Would be very confident of getting back into the top 4 with the tactical mind of a top Italian coach behind us.

Allegri seems to be emerging as the front runner which is very positive news.

I agree on getting back into the top 4 with him in charge, he is an elite coach IMO.

[Niall_Quinn]

Our goal must never be about the Top 4 Trophy again. That's what reduced this club to the state it is in now, which relatively speaking is in better condition than most other clubs but in terms of our own past achievements and the size and potential of the club is totally unacceptable. It can never, ever, ever be about the top 4, or even top 2, again. It must be about Top 1. Always. Title or nothing.

And if we have that attitude Top 4 will be a guaranteed by-product, but certainly not a goal in itself.

The new manager's task must be to win us the title and the CL. All else is irrelevant. If he can't do it then sack him and get somebody else in.

[Goonermerree]

Holding has shown potential but he looks to be too nice and timid from what I’ve seen of him, hope I’m wrong though.

AMN has loads of potential as a DCM, so calm and composed on the ball and doesn’t look fazed on the pitch. Greek fella too, that’s why we need a good defensive coach to come in, we have so many good players who don’t look like they are coached properly.

This is exactly how I feel about Holding.

[Chippy]

Our goal must never be about the Top 4 Trophy again. That's what reduced this club to the state it is in now, which relatively speaking is in better condition than most other clubs but in terms of our own past achievements and the size and potential of the club is totally unacceptable. It can never, ever, ever be about the top 4, or even top 2, again. It must be about Top 1. Always. Title or nothing.

And if we have that attitude Top 4 will be a guaranteed by-product, but certainly not a goal in itself.

The new manager's task must be to win us the title and the CL. All else is irrelevant. If he can't do it then sack him and get somebody else in.

You are joking right?

No one could this rabble winning the PL or the CL in his first couple of seasons!

If we got in the top 4 next year, that would be a major achievement.

Dont forget that the new Manager is apparently only getting £50m.

We are way behind the top 4 at the moment.

[Niall_Quinn]

You are joking right?

No one could this rabble winning the PL or the CL in his first couple of seasons!

If we got in the top 4 next year, that would be a major achievement.

Dont forget that the new Manager is apparently only getting £50m.

We are way behind the top 4 at the moment.

So what? The goal of a club like Arsenal should always be to win. We might not win, we probably won't - although Leicester managed it. But if you are serious about being a "big" club then we don't aim for 4th place. I heard some tool on AFTV claiming Wenger's biggest achievement of all was the consecutive top 4 finishes. A deplorable outlook that revels in failure. The thing that has to change most at this club is the mentality. Wenger made us habitual losers and now the task is for somebody to come in and make us winners. He may not achieve it in the first year or the second, but we need to see progress towards it every season. No more scraping 4th and having bus top parades.

[Letters]

We are way behind the top 4 at the moment.
I disagree. I think our squad is good enough to finish in the top 4, or certainly get close.
Our catastrophic away form this year has given us no chance but our home form is good enough to challenge.
BUT, the title is beyond us right now and any new manager should be given some time to challenge.
Quite honestly gone are the days when it was just us and Utd in a duopoly, there are too many sides with too much money for that.
Who knew that 1990 would be Liverpool's last title? We have a lot of resources but City have a net spend of something like £450m since 2014.
We cannot compete with that level of spending. It's not a given that we'll be sweeping all before us any time soon.

[Marc Overmars]

Hopefully standards are raised again however we also have to be realistic because this squad needs a lot of coaching done if it wants to compete at the top. I’ll wait and see what the new guy can do and I’ll adjust my expectation levels accordingly. Unless the new guy is a miracle worker and some players have a Salah-like impact, we will remain out in the wilderness for a while yet IMO.

I do agree with the sentiment though, the end goal must be to win the league and CL. It shouldn’t be a pipe dream for a club like us, it should be something we can talk about potentially achieving with a straight face.

[Power n Glory]

You are joking right?

No one could this rabble winning the PL or the CL in his first couple of seasons!

If we got in the top 4 next year, that would be a major achievement.

Dont forget that the new Manager is apparently only getting £50m.

We are way behind the top 4 at the moment.

The press recently came out with a story about us about making £200m available for the new manager. It's not worth listening to any stories about the club unless someone is making a statement or it's confirmation of a transfer or appointment.

Also, we should be aiming for the Top Spot. That's the point. It's not about what's realistic it's about setting targets and doing our best to get there.

[AFC Leveller]

According to the Telegraph and Mirror, Arteta, Vieira and Allegri are the 3 candidates.

Arteta, no Thanks. Allegri, Yes please. Vieira, not too sure.

[Marc Overmars]

The way we've set ourselves up, the position is more suitable for a head coach type which Arteta and Vieira would surely be.

The rumoured sticking point with Allegri is that he'd want a lot of money and because he's been so successful in his own right, he'd be reluctant to work with the guys above him.

[Niall_Quinn]

The fear here is the board quietly accepts the second tier status Wenger has delivered. They could ride out a couple of seasons with a plea to give the new manager time and they'd probably get away with it. The new appointment will reflect the ambition of the board. If we go for a manager with an established track record of success we know the goal is to make progress. Otherwise we can assume the board has as much ambition as Wenger, which is none.

Jardim, Allegri, Conte, pay them what they want and get on with it.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

ughhh.

Out of the three:

1) Allegri (works under a similar structure at Juve so I don't buy the stuff about him wanting more control)
2) Arteta
3) Vieira (used to be above Arteta but I had a look at some of his MLS results & performances and they haven't been that impressive tbh).


Not sure why Jardim isn't even a factor (assuming the report). Lack of English?

[KSE Comedy Club]

Arteta - No
Vieira - No

Simple as that.

We need to progress and do it well, re-establish ourselves as title contenders and re-assert our big club status.

This is no time for 'also ran's', maybe's, stop gap's and 'we will see' :coffee:

Also, the Telegraph don't know fuck all either so I am not really that concerned

[AFC Leveller]

TBF even Ornstein has admitted he has no clue, the club are doing everything quietly. Allegri though would be a great choice.

[Bumble]

it doesn't really bother me who the next manager is as there is no guarantee of success for anyone new, so it will actually just be nice having someone else to moan about when things go wrong. the aim for next season should be to win the Europa league and/or compete for the title up until April/May. I don't expect us to win the league as we have too many defensive and midfield issues to resolve this will take time beyond just bringing in new players.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Exactly. Even just having something different to moan about is something to look forward to.

[KSE Comedy Club]

:lol:

[GP]

Coaches Peyton, Banfield and Bibbo have left the club.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Here come the Rui Faria rumours now he has left Man Utd (Mourinho really).

Wenger. :bow:

Tearing down the management structures of other clubs with his departure.

[Mac76]

Coaches Peyton, Banfield and Bibbo have left the club.

Funny nicknames for team buses - at least i assume they are team buses as clearly the club gave up on coaching players some years ago...

[AFC Leveller]

Ornstein:


Manchester City assistant coach Mikel Arteta is one of a number of options being considered by Arsenal as their new manager.

Spaniard Arteta, who made 150 appearances for the Gunners and captained the side, took up a coaching role at City in 2016.

However, the club is not close to making an appointment yet.

Also among those contacted by Arsenal during the process is another of their former captains, Patrick Vieira.

The club remains confident of naming a successor before the World Cup begins on 14 June.

Once a decision has been made by chief executive Ivan Gazidis, head of football relations Raul Sanllehi and head of recruitment Sven Mislintat, the trio will present their recommendation to Arsenal's board of directors for approval.

Wenger will take charge of Arsenal for the final time on Sunday against Huddersfield, after almost 22 years in the role.

Ex-Barcelona coach Luis Enrique has been linked with the job, along with Juventus boss Massimiliano Allegri.

One ex-Arsenal player definitely returning to the club this summer is Freddie Ljungberg. A deal has been done for the Swede to take charge of one of the youth teams on a permanent basis.

Analysis
My sense from speaking to people inside and outside the club is that Arsenal are conducting a very detailed and diligent recruitment process.

Those with direct and indirect knowledge have commended the way in which the Gunners hierarchy are going about their business.

They seem acutely aware of how important a decision this is, but also that it is complex, could well divide opinion and brings with it no guarantee of success.

Their priority is to make the right decision, rather than a quick one, though time is obviously of the essence given the World Cup starts in fewer than five weeks and the transfer window, which opens on 17 May, closes on 9 August.

The favourite for the job with bookmakers and many fans and pundits is Allegri, but Arteta is firmly in the mix, and although these two appear to be the frontrunners, I get the feeling other names are in the frame.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

You'd get an easier time from Ornstein & Smough; another article that list everybody as possible.

Well great work.

[AFC Leveller]

From what i remember, Not every player got on well with Arteta when he was captain, plus his lack of managerial experience makes him a risky choice.

Some one like Allegri would earn everyone's respect straight away, his personality, track record and winning mentality would be perfect for us.

[Mac76]

I'm getting worried about the Arteta idea, the idea that someone completely untried as a manager could do the Arsenal job is ridiculous

We need someone with the track record and stature to give ozil etc a kick up the arse and chop out the deadwood without sympathy

I'm concerned the club are scared of another big ego and will prioritise someone they think they can control, rather than someone who can definitely get us back on track quickly

[Mac76]

Allegri says he's not plannimg on leaving Juve - damn...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44105820

[Marc Overmars]

It’s going to be Arteta, isn’t it...

[McNamara That Ghost...]

http://c2.thejournal.ie/media/2012/07/PA-14110620-390x285.jpg

As it has been said elsewhere, Arteta is not the sensible appointment at this time. They've just had season upon season of enmity from the fans, to bring in Arteta at this time is going to bet met with immediate opposition. That's not to say it won't neccesarily work but it's going to make it a lot harder for him from the outset.

Is the returning of the poisonous atmosphere really what they want, is it really what Arteta wants in his first managerial job?

[KSE Comedy Club]

Enrique or Arteta

It's a no brainer really.

So we are bound to fuck it up :coffee:

[Xhaka Can’t]

If it’s Arteta, it’s Arteta.

Nobody should be making it difficult for him from the outset.

I hope it isn’t him, but if it is, he will need all the support he can get.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

You're right, it shouldn't but I can't help but think that's what would happen.

[Marc Overmars]

We have some deranged supporters amongst the fanbase and I have no doubt if things don’t start well off the bat we will be back to square one.

Anyone not giving the new guy a chance regardless of what they think of the appointment can’t be much of a fan at all.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Of course everyone will give the new guy support, no matter who it is, it goes without saying.

However, if the wrong appointment is made, then that support will dwindle quickly if the results reflect the poor choice.

[Goonermerree]

Surely the board realises that we need someone who has managed before.

[Static]

Allegri wants to stay at Juve

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12961/11372030/massimiliano-allegri-wants-juventus-stay-amid-arsenal-interest

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Oh bollocks.

Can't say I blame him. Going from Juve to us in our current position probably seems like a major step down especially now it's two years without CL football.

This just goes to show you how the spinelessness of the board in not getting rid of Wenger when there were good managers around, e.g. Pep, Klopp, Allegri last year, is going to cost us dearly.

[Static]

If Enrique isn't possible then I'd rather have Ancellotti than Arteta. Especially if Ancellotti will only be around for a few years and hopefully by then we can get Allegri.

What's the deal with Leonardo Jardim?

[The Emirates Gallactico]

What's the deal with Leonardo Jardim?

I don't know but he definitely should be the next guy to go for if Allegri isn't available.

Only thing that may concern Ivan is that he doesn't speak English (yet) and his Monaco side aren't doing as well as before, though that's because they sold off/lost their best players last season including one to their direct title rival (Mbappe to PSG).

[Niall_Quinn]

We have some deranged supporters amongst the fanbase and I have no doubt if things don’t start well off the bat we will be back to square one.

Anyone not giving the new guy a chance regardless of what they think of the appointment can’t be much of a fan at all.

The one outcome where the new guy won't get 5 minutes is if his first team starts tip tapping it around at 1 mph. Nobody can put up with that any more, under any circumstances.

[Niall_Quinn]

I wonder why Conte has not been considered? Surely he's leaving chavland?

[Niall_Quinn]

Ivan and Josh both want Arteta, supposedly. So he can introduce a fresh approach and get the most from the squad, apparently. Allegedly.

Then again, the club hasn't said a thing so far. All of this is media and "insider" (LOL) speculation as the fake news brigade tries to flog their rubbishy rags and dubious reputations and serve up as much clickbait as possible. All the tabloids got smashed by Google in the March/ April updates. Not even the hopelessly corrupt Google can stand them.

Arsenal has finally made a move and got rid of Wenger, something that had to happen to stop the club being dragged right down. I wonder will the journalists twig that they also need to address the bullshit that's dragging them down to joke status?

There's a danger here Arteta will end up being hated by a section of the fanbase without ever being offered the job. The speculation will be enough to turn people against him. Same for Paddy, one of our legends. Neither has been running around the place linking themselves with the job.

Same for Allegri. What's he supposed to say after winning a title again with Juve? He hasn't sat down with them and discussed a new contract yet. He's a successful manager in a position that success brings, he has choices. No doubt he'll consider all offers on their merits. Nothing is written yet, except the latest round of bullshit in the British media.

[Syn]

I wonder why Conte has not been considered? Surely he's leaving chavland?

The guy is awful. Style of football is important. It's why managers like Mourinho can never stay in a job more than 3 years no matter what they win.

Nagelsmann for me. The boy wonder knows what he's doing.

[Niall_Quinn]

The guy is awful. Style of football is important. It's why managers like Mourinho can never stay in a job more than 3 years no matter what they win.

Nagelsmann for me. The boy wonder knows what he's doing.

I don't know anything about that guy, never heard of him until he was linked with us. As for our style of football, it could hardly be made worse by Conte. The fact he's already in London, has experience winning it and is passionate about the game rather than plodding works for me. The manager is not permanent at Arsenal any more. If he's no good he can be sacked. We've joined the real world.

[Power n Glory]

Given the risk Stan took with the LA Rams coach and seeing it pay off, he may attempt a gamble with Arteta.

[Niall_Quinn]

Gary Neville has spoken:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5723609/Gary-Neville-slams-Arsenal-not-having-Arsene-Wengers-successor-lined-up.html

It's a crisis. A right mess.

The club has only gone and interviewed several prospects. They didn't even have a manager sitting there at our beck and call. Now we've been left with a whole summer to find a replacement. It's a catastrophe.

The club needs to pull it's fucking finger out and hire a new man so Gary Neville can write an article telling us how it's the wrong appointment.

[Power n Glory]

Gary Neville has spoken:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5723609/Gary-Neville-slams-Arsenal-not-having-Arsene-Wengers-successor-lined-up.html

It's a crisis. A right mess.

The club has only gone and interviewed several prospects. They didn't even have a manager sitting there at our beck and call. Now we've been left with a whole summer to find a replacement. It's a catastrophe.

The club needs to pull it's fucking finger out and hire a new man so Gary Neville can write an article telling us how it's the wrong appointment.

It really is bullshit. The season isn't over for most of the guys in Europe. A manager still under contract can't really say much. Shit, a few weeks before Wenger quit he was certain he was staying on. The press have no clue.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

If it has to be a young manager I much rather it be Nagelsmaan than Arteta. The former is doing wonders at Hoffenheim and has actual managing experience.

[Marc Overmars]

Nagelsmaan is only 30. :blink:

Seems like he has done a good job with Hoffenheim though.

[Globalgunner]

Nagelsmaan is only 30. :blink:

Seems like he has done a good job with Hoffenheim though.

If we hire him. Will he have to say "Sir" to his underling BFG?

[Niall_Quinn]

Nagelsmaan is only 30. :blink:

Seems like he has done a good job with Hoffenheim though.

A good job, certainly. But I looked at his record and a couple of things stood out. A 5-1 loss to Bayern and a solid beating from Liverpool over 2 legs in the CL. Forgivable considering they are relative minnows, but a little too familiar for my liking. Arsenal is a much bigger club so who is available that is currently getting results at the top level and taking on the big teams and at least making it competitive? That's who we should be after because we aren't looking to step up to unprecedented levels, we are looking to get back to where we have already been. I think a younger manager who only has experience of being the underdog is interesting but not appropriate.

[AFC Leveller]

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[I am invisible]

Wow, been a few changes at the club since the last time I stuck my head in here - wasn't sure I'd see it again in my lifetime, but Arsenal have actually given us something to talk about!

How are you miserable fuckers anyway? All keeping well, I hope.

[fakeyank]

I don't know anything about that guy, never heard of him until he was linked with us. As for our style of football, it could hardly be made worse by Conte. The fact he's already in London, has experience winning it and is passionate about the game rather than plodding works for me. The manager is not permanent at Arsenal any more. If he's no good he can be sacked. We've joined the real world.

The part in bold is bang on! We need to leave the romanticized idea that coaches are supposed to stay on for life at the club. I would love for our coach to be Allegri or Enrique, but I have no issues if its Arteta or some new kid on the block. Give everyone a decent shot, but if they are failing, sack them!

[Mac76]

I don't know anything about that guy, never heard of him until he was linked with us. As for our style of football, it could hardly be made worse by Conte. The fact he's already in London, has experience winning it and is passionate about the game rather than plodding works for me. The manager is not permanent at Arsenal any more. If he's no good he can be sacked. We've joined the real world.

i think the way Conte fell out with the Chelsea management for, frankly, reasons i don't really get will rule him out in Ivan et al's minds. Even i think it says he's got an out-of-control ego and will do things his way regardless of whether anyone else thinks they make sense or not, or more importantly whether they work or not - remind you of anyone...?

[Letters]

Wow, been a few changes at the club since the last time I stuck my head in here - wasn't sure I'd see it again in my lifetime, but Arsenal have actually given us something to talk about!

How are you miserable fuckers anyway? All keeping well, I hope.

Mostly miserable, thanks.

[KSE Comedy Club]

It’s simple.

We need a proper manager who has experience at the top level and winning trophies.

‘Young’ ‘maybe’ ‘up & coming’ ‘possibly’ just no, No, No, No, No....NO!!!

Arteta, Vieira, Nagelsmann..... all not good enough.

[Mac76]

It’s simple.

We need a proper manager who has experience at the top level and winning trophies.

‘Young’ ‘maybe’ ‘up & coming’ ‘possibly’ just no, No, No, No, No....NO!!!

Arteta, Vieira, Nagelsmann..... all not good enough.

i think we're all agreed on that - shall we start a petition to Ivan?

[AFC Leveller]

According to several reports, Arteta and Nagelsmann are the two favourites.

Allegri said he will stay and honour his contract, Enrique asked for too much money according to the papers so that leaves us with two very underwhelming options.

[Mac76]

According to several reports, Arteta and Nagelsmann are the two favourites.

Allegri said he will stay and honour his contract, Enrique asked for too much money according to the papers so that leaves us with two very underwhelming options.

well if we can't do better maybe there's someone with experience available who knows the club and could fill in for a season or two...?



http://www.squawka.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/GettyImages-916518136.jpg?resolution=940,1

[Globalgunner]

Id rather give Bouldy a year in charge than hire that old ne`er do well. Besides isnt Ancelotti available right now. Give him a 2 year contract and lets see how we go.

[I am invisible]

Mostly miserable, thanks.
Not even a teensy bit cheerier?

[I am invisible]

According to several reports, Arteta and Nagelsmann are the two favourites.

Allegri said he will stay and honour his contract, Enrique asked for too much money according to the papers so that leaves us with two very underwhelming options.

Can't see us getting Nagelsmann, unfortunately - really like the sound of him, but from what I've read he's a family man who has a young son, and I think he'll be thinking about things like where he wants his lad to be brought up and educated as much as where he might like to work. Might be wrong, but I can see him staying in Germany for a long while yet...

[I am invisible]

The part in bold is bang on! We need to leave the romanticized idea that coaches are supposed to stay on for life at the club. I would love for our coach to be Allegri or Enrique, but I have no issues if its Arteta or some new kid on the block. Give everyone a decent shot, but if they are failing, sack them!

This is true.

I think we also need to keep in mind that Wenger's replacement isn't just going to be one guy - it's the whole package of Raul, Sven, Darren (Burgess), the new first team coach, and probably a whole raft of other new coaching appointments too.

One interesting theory I read (don't ask me where because I can't remember) was that we may be interested in Buvac, not as our new first team coach (or even the new coach's assistant), but as a more permanent director-level appointment - a kind of 'Head of Development' if you will, who would work alongside Sven and Darren Burgess, and would be responsible for the overall footballing philosophy and identity at the club, and making sure the technical standards (and mentality) that we expect are being met at all levels.

The role of the first team coach then becomes entirely about adding that extra bit of tactical innovation and motivation at senior level and making the big calls during games - a cherry-on-the-top appointment, with all the fundamentals taken care of elsewhere - which would allow us to refresh the position whenever we needed to, with minimal fuss, and without fearing that we'd be losing the club's entire footballing identity with every departing coach (and their entourage).

[Xhaka Can’t]

i think the way Conte fell out with the Chelsea management for, frankly, reasons i don't really get will rule him out in Ivan et al's minds. Even i think it says he's got an out-of-control ego and will do things his way regardless of whether anyone else thinks they make sense or not, or more importantly whether they work or not - remind you of anyone...?

My wife?

[Xhaka Can’t]

According to several reports, Arteta and Nagelsmann are the two favourites.

Allegri said he will stay and honour his contract, Enrique asked for too much money according to the papers so that leaves us with two very underwhelming options.

We all thought we were getting Cruyff in 96.

Then we made an underwhelming appointment.

[Penguin]

I hope it's not Arteta. We don't need a mini-Pep to try and imitate him.

I want someone who can give us a backbone and fix the mess that our defence and midfield has become. Somehow I don't see Arteta bringing too much change in that department.

[Master Splinter]

AKB :bow:.

[Bumble]

I think we need a young progressive English manager... alladyce or moyes.

[AFC Leveller]

I think we need a young progressive English manager... alladyce or moyes.

This reminds me of the time you said Nugent was better than Adebayor lol.

[Bumble]

This reminds me of the time you said Nugent was better than Adebayor lol.

I was right though!!! rather have nugent.

[AFC Leveller]

I was right though!!! rather have nugent.

Ade was a cunt in the end but his goal record in the PL is a lot better than Nugent’s!!

[Power n Glory]

I was right though!!! rather have nugent.

Who?

[Power n Glory]

I was right though!!! rather have nugent.

:lol: You

[Dial Square Old Boy]

Tuchel now at PSG. Emery now available?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44107933

[Letters]

Emery now available?

He is awful, but I like him.


:cool:

[GP]

you suck

[Letters]

That was a good joke <_<



If you're over 50.

[Chippy]

He is awful, but I like him.


:cool:

:lol::lol:

[Letters]

See? :d


:cool:

[KSE Comedy Club]

Arteta is now the favourite according to Sky today.

What we all feared is probably gonna happen.

Ivan is gonna fuck it up :coffee:

[Globalgunner]

Arteta is now the favourite according to Sky today.

What we all feared is probably gonna happen.

Ivan is gonna fuck it up :coffee:

How stupid can 3 people be?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Wenger in!

[Letters]

Arteta is now the favourite according to Sky today.

What we all feared is probably gonna happen.

Ivan is gonna fuck it up :coffee:

Be careful what you wish for... :whistle:

[Marc Overmars]

Mickey Tets :bow:

Always rated him.

[selassie]

Arteta is now the favourite according to Sky today.

What we all feared is probably gonna happen.

Ivan is gonna fuck it up :coffee:

Gazidis and his boys are playing Russian Roulette if they appoint him. It’s absolutely on them if things go belly up. I am praying that these are just rumours and we have lined up someone who has actually managed a football club before! You know like someone who is experienced and has actually won stuff.

What concerns me about the new management structure we have is that it appears we just want to appoint a coach who looks after the team, someone who doesn’t have much of a say on player recruitment etc.

I get that we shouldn’t have a dictator type in charge like Wenger became, but we need to get the balance right.

[Marc Overmars]

I guess the only saving grace is that we get to see what the new management is capable of, we don't really know how this will go because the structure of the club is going to be so vastly different to what it was under Wenger. It's a stab in a dark for sure but there is a degree of unpredictability about it and that definitely excites me more usual.

I'd rather it be an established name with some track record of success but if it is Arteta then so be it. As previously said, at least now we know we can sack him quickly if it's a disaster and move on without too much fuss.

[KSE Comedy Club]

I guess the only saving grace is that we get to see what the new management is capable of, we don't really know how this will go because the structure of the club is going to be so vastly different to what it was under Wenger. It's a stab in a dark for sure but there is a degree of unpredictability about it and that definitely excites me more usual.

I'd rather it be an established name with some track record of success but if it is Arteta then so be it. As previously said, at least now we know we can sack him quickly if it's a disaster and move on without too much fuss.

Yes we can sack him if it goes belly up early on, but the problem then is, who might we have missed out on in the meantime?

Can we really afford another year or two of uncertainty and possibly, disaster ?

I would have to say - no we can’t.

I would hope that ‘penny pinching’ isn’t part of the legacy that Wenger leaves behind

I think we can all say that Arteta is only being looked at because he works with Pep.
If he were somewhere else he wouldn’t even be in the running.

That really concerns me.

[Munchies]

rather have the hoffenhiem manager over arteta

[Mac76]

rather have the hoffenhiem manager over arteta

Me too- he's actually done the job before, which kind of helps...

[Niall_Quinn]

Arteta will be ten times better than Wenger in terms of what happens on a football pitch and on the training ground. Jardim or Allegri or Simeone would have been 20 times better. Looks like we'll have to settle for 10 times better then. So be it. Wenger was completely past it, done, finished. He had nothing left. When was the last time anyone ever remarked on Wenger's tactical skills influencing a season positively? No matter who is appointed, it will be like cutting the rope on a dragging anchor.

What this would really mean is the board managing the club, the money, the transfers, the pre-seasons (which I expect will become Americanised), and a coach with a strictly limited role coaching the team. That's maybe the best way to do this considering the power Wenger had and the impossibility of parachuting somebody in to directly replace him. And we missed out on Pep, so perhaps the next best thing is to get Pep's methods. A transformation in the way we do things which has to come before a transformation in the results anyway.

Still all media speculation though. I find it difficult to believe there's somebody inside the club talking to the media fatties and dopes on a daily basis.

[Marc Overmars]

Yes we can sack him if it goes belly up early on, but the problem then is, who might we have missed out on in the meantime?

Can we really afford another year or two of uncertainty and possibly, disaster ?

I would have to say - no we can’t.

I would hope that ‘penny pinching’ isn’t part of the legacy that Wenger leaves behind

I think we can all say that Arteta is only being looked at because he works with Pep.
If he were somewhere else he wouldn’t even be in the running.

That really concerns me.


I agree but there is no record of failure to wallow in right now, I have faith in the new management until results say otherwise. After all they did manage to get Auba and Mkhi, plus the Greek kid who everyone seems to like the look of. These are modern football men who should know what they’re doing and if they believe Arteta is worth a go then so be it.

This is going to be the cleanest of all clean slates and I’m all for that.

[Niall_Quinn]

We also assume Arteta would even take the job. I wouldn't if I was in his place. I'd take everything I could get from gypoland and start in the lower leagues and work myself up. Plenty of years available in management if you build things progressively.

[Power n Glory]

Yes we can sack him if it goes belly up early on, but the problem then is, who might we have missed out on in the meantime?

Can we really afford another year or two of uncertainty and possibly, disaster ?

I would have to say - no we can’t.

I would hope that ‘penny pinching’ isn’t part of the legacy that Wenger leaves behind

I think we can all say that Arteta is only being looked at because he works with Pep.
If he were somewhere else he wouldn’t even be in the running.

That really concerns me.

The question is, would Pep have been interested in working with him if he were no good? I never understood why we allowed him to go to Man City in the first place. Maybe Wenger didn’t want to hold him back because there wouldn’t be much of a role at Arsenal.

It’s seems like such a high gamble taking on Arteta. Every appointment we’ve made from the medical staff to the Sven and Raul, came with experience and a reputation. All experts in their field and we haven’t taken any risks. Maybe Ivan and co know something about Arteta we don’t. Wenger would always praise his footballing intelligence. Pep has nothing but good things to say…obviously.

It looks like a massive risk. Stan took the same risk with the LA Rams and it’s paying off so we’ll see if these rumours are true.

[Niall_Quinn]

The question is, would Pep have been interested in working with him if he were no good? I never understood why we allowed him to go to Man City in the first place. Maybe Wenger didn’t want to hold him back because there wouldn’t be much of a role at Arsenal.

It’s seems like such a high gamble taking on Arteta. Every appointment we’ve made from the medical staff to the Sven and Raul, came with experience and a reputation. All experts in their field and we haven’t taken any risks. Maybe Ivan and co know something about Arteta we don’t. Wenger would always praise his footballing intelligence. Pep has nothing but good things to say…obviously.

It looks like a massive risk. Stan took the same risk with the LA Rams and it’s paying off so we’ll see if these rumours are true.

Bloody good job we let him go, if he ends up being manager here. Can you imagine if he'd stayed as a yes man to Wenger and was now being lined up as a replacement, having learned every bad habit in the book?

This might be a redistribution of not just the management responsibilities but also the costs.

[selassie]

Me too- he's actually done the job before, which kind of helps...

Aye, me too.

[Goonermerree]

Arteta and Brendan are up there as favourites to manage Arsenal. Lots of people working under good managers fail as managers, look at Steve McLaren for one.

[Mac76]

i got round to watching MOTD last night and Wrighty was backing Arteta - he said he'd give some of the players 'the kick up the backside they needed'

all well and good but there's a bit more to it than that...

[Ralpheroo72]

Hoffenheim manager staying put

[Mac76]

Hoffenheim manager staying put

this is all just proving the club left it too late before ditching Wenger - the damage is already done, prospective managers thinking there's too much hard work to be done: dreadful away record; knocked out of the Europa the first time we meet a decent team; sixth in the league and miles off the CL spots; and a lot of work needed with the squad

[Niall_Quinn]

Hoffenheim manager staying put

Smart move on his part. If he's developing a good reputation he has plenty of time to work his way up rather than jump straight into the deep end.

One thing Arsenal will be doing for a lot of managers out there is improving their negotiating positions with their own clubs.

[Marc Overmars]

Only thing I feel for sure is that the possibility of appointing Arteta makes me a hell of a lot less apprehensive than if Wenger was sticking around for another year.

[Özim]

Not too impressed with these Arteta rumours for a number of reasons, firstly assistant managers don't seem to make good managers, look at Mclaren and Queiroz for example (not sure what they do to be honest, Ferguson had success regardless of his assistants), secondly Arteta had no leadership qualities at all on the field and by all intents and purposes wasn't much of a player for us. Add that to the fact he has no experience at management level and you can see why this would be underwhelming.

Allegri would make much more sense as would any manager with experience, if we had to have some former player Vieira would be my choice as at least he had something about him on the field.

The Arsenal job is a tough one, you don't follow a man who has been in a job 22 years and have an easy time, hence the need for someone who know what they're doing, a pop tart would have more authority than Arteta, Guardiola delivered the success at City not him, proof in the pudding is Guardiola's record at other clubs where he achieved pretty much the same, the guy wins stuff at big clubs with money to spend.

Anyway hopefully it's not him but if it is we need to give him a chance, would be an odd choice though really for such a big club like us, he's not even Arsenal through and through, was nothing more than a bit part player for us for the time he was here.

[Niall_Quinn]

I think Arteta had excellent on-field leadership qualities. Maybe not screaming at everyone, but if you needed a guy to step up in a pressure situation Arteta was your man.

My main fear is he's too young and too recently close to the club to easily earn the respect (fear) of the players.

[Özim]

I think Arteta had excellent on-field leadership qualities. Maybe not screaming at everyone, but if you needed a guy to step up in a pressure situation Arteta was your man.

My main fear is he's too young and too recently close to the club to easily earn the respect (fear) of the players.

Not convinced to be honest, I never saw him excel, he was never one to take hold of a game or motivate players when the chips were down, if things were going again us he wasn't one to make things happen or reverse the flow. IMO he was a better player for Everton and more of a creator than anything else, never there to lead the team. As I said before, Guardiola didn't need him in reality, he'd have won as he has with or without him as he's shown at other clubs where he also had money. The assistants role is vastly overstated IMO, their impact on success is minimal and they often prove not to be good managers.

I'm not sure he'll get much respect either that I agree with, on the pitch he was never anything special, unlike the Henrys and Vieiras of this world and he's never managed, think it's very rare to have a player like this take over a big club without any experience and become a success, the job at Arsenal is even hard IMO, so even less so with us.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Talking about what they did as a player and attributing that to a managerial role is as irrelevant as what they do as an assistant.

[Power n Glory]

One thing for sure, if by some miracle, Arteta turns out to be a masterstroke appointment, Arsenal FC would be...... by far the greatest team the world has ever seen! :scarf:

This would be unprecedented. Would change football management much in the same way Wenger's introduction to the Prem changed football.

[Bumble]

i do think whoever the next appointment will be, we do need to get a move on before other teams start ditching their managers Chelsea, West Ham, Everton etc and add competition to the manager appointee merry-go-round

[AFC Leveller]

Arteta was interviewed once when he was still with us and he had this to say:

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32545714_994646084025756_4795253771061952512_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=AeErYMMNpNNMIXPe43EzTBpYnNVQsKSU7nbTrgEfs LafUUGOCZQ9TZlQZXRW4a_zsRdxpFzuOKYLX1NsgJTF1DLXw2L DSvhoGCpqstmiOFduFw&oh=76caa575075860a03ff6be2e68ddbe6e&oe=5B4EFC07

[Özim]

Those words could have come out of Wengers mouth....:(

[Özim]

Talking about what they did as a player and attributing that to a managerial role is as irrelevant as what they do as an assistant.

Very true, but a manager needs to have something about him, Arteta never seemed to display this certain something, whether it be a ruthless streak, some sort of ability to lead, motivate or tactical awarenes or a desire to win that superseeds everything else.

He just seemed like some nice guy that blended into the background without ever standing out, that's what worries me.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Those words could have come out of Wengers mouth....:(

Exactly what I thought! :rolleyes:

[selassie]

Yes we can sack him if it goes belly up early on, but the problem then is, who might we have missed out on in the meantime?

Can we really afford another year or two of uncertainty and possibly, disaster ?

I would have to say - no we can’t.

I would hope that ‘penny pinching’ isn’t part of the legacy that Wenger leaves behind

I think we can all say that Arteta is only being looked at because he works with Pep.
If he were somewhere else he wouldn’t even be in the running.

That really concerns me.

It concerns me too. I think potentially Arteta could become a good / great manager but he shouldn't be given his audition here at Arsenal.

We are at a point where a fair bit of work needs to be done with the squad both from a player recruitment and mentality perspective.

Is Arteta, fresh out of kindergarten ready to come in and shake things up? Does he have the experience?

Don't get me wrong if we appoint him I will support him but I have major concerns over whether he is ready for the job, in the future maybe...but right now? Hmmm.....

[Power n Glory]

Those words could have come out of Wengers mouth....:(

Nah, that part about giving 120% or you're out could never have come from Wenger. You just said Merts should have been sold ages ago and we've seen the amount of chances Ozil, Iwobi, Mustafi and Bellerin have racked up.

[Power n Glory]

It concerns me too. I think potentially Arteta could become a good / great manager but he shouldn't be given his audition here at Arsenal.

We are at a point where a fair bit of work needs to be done with the squad both from a player recruitment and mentality perspective.

Is Arteta, fresh out of kindergarten ready to come in and shake things up? Does he have the experience?

Don't get me wrong if we appoint him I will support him but I have major concerns over whether he is ready for the job, in the future maybe...but right now? Hmmm.....

One positive, he knows most of the players well enough and who to keep and who to ship out straight away if they don't sort their lives outs.

[AFC Leveller]

It concerns me too. I think potentially Arteta could become a good / great manager but he shouldn't be given his audition here at Arsenal.

We are at a point where a fair bit of work needs to be done with the squad both from a player recruitment and mentality perspective.

Is Arteta, fresh out of kindergarten ready to come in and shake things up? Does he have the experience?

Don't get me wrong if we appoint him I will support him but I have major concerns over whether he is ready for the job, in the future maybe...but right now? Hmmm.....

The problem is the likes of Enrique and Allegri are unattainable for various reasons (Enrique wants too much money and Allegri says he will stay at Juve) and the Hoffenheim manager will also be staying where he is which makes our choices very limited.

Im very skeptical about Arteta, he might have potential (Pep wouldnt have hired him as his number 2 if he wasnt any good) but no way is he ready for a job like this.

[selassie]

One positive, he knows most of the players well enough and who to keep and who to ship out straight away if they don't sort their lives outs.

Aye. Let's hope he fixes Central Midfield and Central Defence, he has no time for sentiment and being buddies with some of our existing lot. If you are not good enough you are out, that's the kind of mentality and reputation he needs to set the minute he walks through the door.

[selassie]

The problem is the likes of Enrique and Allegri are unattainable for various reasons (Enrique wants too much money and Allegri says he will stay at Juve) and the Hoffenheim manager will also be staying where he is which makes our choices very limited.

Im very skeptical about Arteta, he might have potential (Pep wouldnt have hired him as his number 2 if he wasnt any good) but no way is he ready for a job like this.

Oh I agree, I would be a lot more comfortable with Unai Emery or even Carlo Ancelotti to steady the ship before we go for Arteta or Vieira or someone like that.

[Power n Glory]

Oh I agree, I would be a lot more comfortable with Unai Emery or even Carlo Ancelotti to steady the ship before we go for Arteta or Vieira or someone like that.

I really can't understand the rush for Arteta and why they'd pass up on so many candidates eligible for the role with way more experience. They must know something.

[Niall_Quinn]

I really can't understand the rush for Arteta and why they'd pass up on so many candidates eligible for the role with way more experience. They must know something.

Or it's an absolute determination never to see a manager gain so much control at the club again. Maybe the new role will be so limited the big, experienced names wouldn't go for it.

[GP]

Make no mistake, the new guy is going to be the coach, not the manager in the traditional sense.

It's not just Wenger leaving, it's a complete change in management structure. This is where Gazidis earns his money.

[Letters]

Those words could have come out of Wengers mouth....:(

Or any other manager ever's. It's just generic stuff.

[AFC Leveller]

Or it's an absolute determination never to see a manager gain so much control at the club again. Maybe the new role will be so limited the big, experienced names wouldn't go for it.

Thats what i think as well. The new structure means we are hiring a head coach, someone who can train, motivate and organise a team. The big bosses are either unavailable or not interested in the job for various reasons.

[I am invisible]

Arteta was interviewed once when he was still with us and he had this to say:

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Full interview...

https://www.arsenal.com/news/features/20150325/-my-dream-was-to-play-for-arsenal-

...think it was from 2014 or 2015?

[I am invisible]

Aye. Let's hope he fixes Central Midfield and Central Defence, he has no time for sentiment and being buddies with some of our existing lot. If you are not good enough you are out, that's the kind of mentality and reputation he needs to set the minute he walks through the door.
Sounds like Mislintat's already taking care of it, and not waiting around for the new guy. I like this new way of doing things...

[Niall_Quinn]

Thats what i think as well. The new structure means we are hiring a head coach, someone who can train, motivate and organise a team. The big bosses are either unavailable or not interested in the job for various reasons.

And if that's the way it's going I think we'll be better off. It will make it so much easier to get rid of non-performing managers and it will allow good coaches to get on with what they are best at without worrying about all the other stuff. It makes sense and gives the new guy a realistic chance of making a go of it. Trying to replace Wenger's role (Lord of all he surveys) would have been a non-starter.

[I am invisible]

Or any other manager ever's.
Maybe not Mourinho's.

[I am invisible]

I really can't understand the rush for Arteta and why they'd pass up on so many candidates eligible for the role with way more experience. They must know something.
We're assuming it's a rush, but I seem to remember us offering Arteta a final year's extension as a player when he could barely play, and I think he pretty much used that time to get his coaching badges at the club? Could be that this is a move that's actually a few years in the making?

[AFC Leveller]

Funny how for one of the most coveted jobs in world football, the only real candidate we have has managed 0 games at any level!

[Syn]

Make no mistake, the new guy is going to be the coach, not the manager in the traditional sense.

It's not just Wenger leaving, it's a complete change in management structure. This is where Gazidis earns his money.

Spot on. Every new signing is now down to Mislintat spotting him and that Raul guy closing the deal. We're even heavily linked to a £35m CB today with no manager consulted. Gazidis is playing a dangerous game by appointing Arteta; the Kroenkes will axe him if it doesn't work out. But there's some noises that Mikel is actually a ruthless cunt and that is strangely comforting.

[Niall_Quinn]

Funny how for one of the most coveted jobs in world football, the only real candidate we have has managed 0 games at any level!

Certainly used to be a top job when we were a top club. But we've dropped a level now and everyone knows it. Is it a step up or a step down to leave Juve for Arsenal? We aren't a CL club any more. Would Simeone leave the team that beat us in the EL to come here? Would any of the managers at the mancs clubs, Liverpool or even the spuds leave to come here? Wenger took us down a level and we're not the draw we used to be.

[Power n Glory]

We're assuming it's a rush, but I seem to remember us offering Arteta a final year's extension as a player when he could barely play, and I think he pretty much used that time to get his coaching badges at the club? Could be that this is a move that's actually a few years in the making?

Rush is the wrong. I’ll rephrase. Why Arteta? Out of all the candidates, why him? My hope is that they’ve seen and heard good things about him. It can’t just be a case of wanting someone cheap or someone to control. At least I hope not.

[Syn]

Certainly used to be a top job when we were a top club. But we've dropped a level now and everyone knows it. Is it a step up or a step down to leave Juve for Arsenal? We aren't a CL club any more. Would Simeone leave the team that beat us in the EL to come here? Would any of the managers at the mancs clubs, Liverpool or even the spuds leave to come here? Wenger took us down a level and we're not the draw we used to be.

We could've got Pochettino if we wanted. Wenger was the highest paid manager for UEFA cup qualification. We could double Allegri and Simeone's salary without breaking sweat. We could've got these guys. Either the club is being cheap or they really, really believe in Arteta, who has been rumoured to be the no.1 choice since February. There's evidence that Arteta's their main man even though he's the most unpredictable.

[Niall_Quinn]

We could've got Pochettino if we wanted. Wenger was the highest paid manager for UEFA cup qualification. We could double Allegri and Simeone's salary without breaking sweat. We could've got these guys. Either the club is being cheap or they really, really believe in Arteta, who has been rumoured to be the no.1 choice since February. There's evidence that Arteta's their main man even though he's the most unpredictable.

Not so sure Wenger's 10 mill contract was on the table. Seems there will be 3 guys running the football side of things now, in different capacities. I suspect the money is being distributed accordingly. And it's not just the money. There's a big job to do at Arsenal, the sort of job that can make currently successful managers look like van Gaal should it go wrong. The media never tired of telling us what a genius he was when he arrived. Now he's a laughing stock.

[Syn]

Not so sure Wenger's 10 mill contract was on the table. Seems there will be 3 guys running the football side of things now, in different capacities. I suspect the money is being distributed accordingly. And it's not just the money. There's a big job to do at Arsenal, the sort of job that can make currently successful managers look like van Gaal should it go wrong. The media never tired of telling us what a genius he was when he arrived. Now he's a laughing stock.

True -- money is the only way we could attract those managers and it's possible after bringing in Raul and Sven that a role with reduced responsibility wouldn't command Wenger's current salary. Just trying to find positives, there's a possibility that the guy who had the balls to sack Wenger and bring in Dortmund's elite scout and Barca's chief negotiations man also had a long term plan on what sort of first team coach would fit the bill.

[I am invisible]

Rush is the wrong. I’ll rephrase. Why Arteta? Out of all the candidates, why him? My hope is that they’ve seen and heard good things about him. It can’t just be a case of wanting someone cheap or someone to control. At least I hope not.
This is just a guess, but I think we're going to increasingly see the top clubs applying the same kind of logic to appointing first team coaches as they do to acquiring key players: you either go for one of the very best, established options on the market, in which case you're going to have to spend big; or, if you can't find exactly what you're looking for (or you're not prepared to stump up 15m/yr in wages and nearly a quarter of a billion in folding money) then you try and find the next big thing and make your own.

Those somewhere-in-between options - the established names who are good, but not the very, very best - don't seem to interest the top clubs where key players are concerned, so I reckon a lot of these clubs might now be starting to think 'why bother with them as first team coaches' either?

I think I generally agree with the candidates that we've been looking at so far - the only one that I don't understand why we haven't shown more interest in is Jardim?

[selassie]

I really can't understand the rush for Arteta and why they'd pass up on so many candidates eligible for the role with way more experience. They must know something.

Pretty much what NQ said, he will do as he is told and won’t come with any big demands.

[selassie]

Make no mistake, the new guy is going to be the coach, not the manager in the traditional sense.

It's not just Wenger leaving, it's a complete change in management structure. This is where Gazidis earns his money.

He (Gazidis) has been sacking people left right and centre so he and the new guys certainly have some kind of vision. I like what they have done so far, but they need to get the coach / team manager appointment right.

[selassie]

Sounds like Mislintat's already taking care of it, and not waiting around for the new guy. I like this new way of doing things...

Yeah I agree, he is in complete control of recruitment it seems.

P.S At least the transfer windows won’t be a mess like they have been the previous 10 years with us dragging out transfers all summer long due to Wenger’s principled stance on player valuations :lol:

[I am invisible]

Yeah I agree, he is in complete control of recruitment it seems.
We've got a Head of Recruitment who is widely referred to as 'Diamond Eye' - let the guy do his job and be glad he's doing it for us!

Honestly, I'm really looking forward to seeing what he can come up with for us - the whole 'Dortmund 2.0' idea is far more appealing to me than someone like Enrique coming in and rinsing 200m on players that I've already been watching for the last 5-10 years...

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Chatter that Arteta's assistant would be Xabi Alonso. :popcorn:

I don't think there are any even slightly viable links on the Alonso part, especially as he is still up for tax fraud as far as I'm aware.

However, still interesting.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

SSN 'Breaking News'.

Apparently we've made contact in the last 24 hours with Vieira but sees it nothing but a token gesture. :sarcy:

Also, a Pep suckfest is due from 10:15pm tonight on Sky Sports Main Event on a MNF Special but presumably, he'll be asked about Arteta.

[Niall_Quinn]

True -- money is the only way we could attract those managers and it's possible after bringing in Raul and Sven that a role with reduced responsibility wouldn't command Wenger's current salary. Just trying to find positives, there's a possibility that the guy who had the balls to sack Wenger and bring in Dortmund's elite scout and Barca's chief negotiations man also had a long term plan on what sort of first team coach would fit the bill.

Maybe that is the plan longer term. Next season has probably been earmarked for transition and a top 4 finish in which case Arteta sort of makes sense. If he achieves his goals he stays, but at the very least things should all be in place for a bigger name if Arteta can't handle it. If he really is the next big thing then we end up in a win-win situation. And the other two don't have their legs chopped off by a prima-donna pitching up. I'm not against this appointment at all, the more I think about it. Only the most unreasonable fan (even more unreasonable than me) will refuse to give him a season to make a mark, provided we aren't languishing in 16th by mid season.

[Syn]

Maybe that is the plan longer term. Next season has probably been earmarked for transition and a top 4 finish in which case Arteta sort of makes sense. If he achieves his goals he stays, but at the very least things should all be in place for a bigger name if Arteta can't handle it. If he really is the next big thing then we end up in a win-win situation. And the other two don't have their legs chopped off by a prima-donna pitching up. I'm not against this appointment at all, the more I think about it. Only the most unreasonable fan (even more unreasonable than me) will refuse to give him a season to make a mark, provided we aren't languishing in 16th by mid season.

Think any new manager needs at least 18 months (3 windows, if he has a say) to show some promising signs. Even Klopp needed that at Liverpool. I'm excited for a change, and as GP says I think the probability of success also depends on Sven and Raul delivering.

[Niall_Quinn]

I'm still going through the relief stage, which will hopefully be followed by excitement.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Betway have suspended betting on Arteta.....

[Xhaka Can’t]

If it is true, the most important thing is not about the new manager, it is the new way of doing things around here. Arteta may not be the guy that brings us back to being established at the top table, but he may be a key part of the team that lays the foundation. This is a wholesale change in a poisonous culture that concentrated power in one position and whilst that worked early when that person had ideas, when he became stale, he remained somewhat unassailable.

Those days are clearly gone and we have a wonderful opportunity to be more responsive and draw upon a wider pool of talent to make this once again a progressive club with new ideas and a renewed hope.

[Goonermerree]

I don't want Arteta as manager ( I liked him as a player for us), but if he does become manager, he will get my 100% support. Any new manager would - except Rodgers.

[Xhaka Can’t]

What about Mark Hughes?

He kept the Saints up.

[Goonermerree]

What about Mark Hughes?

He kept the Saints up.

I'd go and support United.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I'd go and support United.

Understandable.

[LDG]

There’s nobody better, than Mikel Arteta

[Power n Glory]

Le Grove has convinced me. Some good research and quotes on Arteta. I'm sold.

[GP]

There’s nobody better, than Mikel Arteta

Artekkers :bow:

[Master Splinter]

There's not enough worthwhile evidence to make any judgements about Arteta at this moment.

If it is all part of a big plan that's been in motion over the last season and a bit, then it almost makes perfect sense.

As some have said, giving him at least a year before delivering an EXPERT OPINION on his ability as a head coach seems the only rational option.

If he's not a success, then you'd think this apparently ruthless new team in charge of football matters would look for someone else next summer.

Personally, I'm in it for some decent footy and slivers of escapism now and then. So if Arteta makes Arsenal an exciting prospect to watch first of all, he'll be off to a good start. If this leads to any future reflected glory upon me and an opportunity to look down at other individuals idiotically following less-successful clubs, it will be a bonus.

I understand the thinking that it's an unnecessary risk. But lazy talk of it being 'cheap' or 'unambitious' is unimaginative. In fact, looking all the behind-the-scenes activity over the last year it seems to be one of the most ambitious things a supposedly stale and rigid club could have done.

As a shit pundit would say at half time, it's intriguing: a completely new undertaking and experience for the club and the fans. If it doesn't lead to a new dynasty and complete domination of the English game, then I'll just watch The Simpsons series 6-10 again. Or start supporting PSG.

[Letters]

There’s nobody better, than Mikel Arteta

Your mum gets wetter, with Mikel Arteta

[LDG]

Your mum gets wetter, with Mikel Arteta

Mikel Arteta* has more hair than Letters

*see most people

[Mac76]

I'd go and support United.

Good idea, they've a good manager in Benitez

[Letters]

Mikel Arteta* has more hair than Letters

*see most people

Coney < Letters < Everyone Else.

:p

[Özim]

Nah, that part about giving 120% or you're out could never have come from Wenger. You just said Merts should have been sold ages ago and we've seen the amount of chances Ozil, Iwobi, Mustafi and Bellerin have racked up.

I dunno, Wenger has talked about commitment many many times and he's never stood in a players way if he wanted to leave either.

[Özim]

If Arteta comes in I hope he doesn't carry on with this pass pass football Guardiola loves so much and that we've been trying to replicate for over a decade, Liverpools style of play if far more exciting and far better to watch, much like we were when we were winning.

5 yard passing is such a snoozefest.

[Goonermerree]

If Arteta comes in I hope he doesn't carry on with this pass pass football Guardiola loves so much and that we've been trying to replicate for over a decade, Liverpools style of play if far more exciting and far better to watch, much like we were when we were winning.

5 yard passing is such a snoozefest.

He probably will. Maybe our board is hoping that we'll produce City type football and win the league.

[Power n Glory]

I dunno, Wenger has talked about commitment many many times and he's never stood in a players way if he wanted to leave either.

Wenger never spoke on dropping players. He'd conjure up an excuse to protect the player from public criticism and shield their confidence.

[Marc Overmars]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5732835/Mikel-Arteta-90-cent-certain-replace-Arsene-Wenger-Arsenal.html

"90% certain" :haha:

Yeah because that's how you'd tell the squad of such a momentous decision.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

I'm slowing warming towards Arteta especially after reading Le Grove's piece and various other snippets about some of his coaching methods and the impact he's had. Apparently he's the one that stayed behind in training to work with Sane & Sterling to get them to improve their end product.

Apparently told Messi & Sherwood too fuck off when the former was time wasting and the latter was having a go at Sagna. :bow:

It may just be confirmation bias and me trying to reassure myself now though.

Still would prefer Allegri but I wouldn't be totally aghast if it was Arteta. Either way he has my full support and he should have the support of the fans with us purely judging him on the results & performances he delivers rather than the sexiness of his name or reputation.


If Arteta comes in I hope he doesn't carry on with this pass pass football Guardiola loves so much and that we've been trying to replicate for over a decade, Liverpools style of play if far more exciting and far better to watch, much like we were when we were winning.

5 yard passing is such a snoozefest.

You mean the style that Pep just won the league with, being the first manager to reach 100 points?

Or the style that both Klopp & Pochettino employ that's won them both jack shit so far?

At any rate you being too focused on style rather than what's effective and gets results it's pretty ironic seeing as you were always moaning at Wenger for being too rigid.

[Goonermerree]

Did the club even think about a new manager when it was announced that Wenger was leaving? I think I read or heard somewhere that Wenger found out he was going to be asked to leave in the summer, but decided he was going to leave on his terms so announced it earlier and caught the club on the hop.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Did the club even think about a new manager when it was announced that Wenger was leaving? I think I read or heard somewhere that Wenger found out he was going to be asked to leave in the summer, but decided he was going to leave on his terms so announced it earlier and caught the club on the hop.

I actually think Ivan's quite competent and based on a few stories it seems he's sensibly been putting out a few feelers for a while now.

Apparently he had a meeting with Tuchel last summer (before we got Sven) which went promising and he was eager to get the job if Wenger was to leave (unfortunately he didn't and signed a new contract - thanks Stan!) & Hasenhüttl confirmed that there was contact between an Arsenal rep and him last year.

The actual timing of the exact day Wenger announced it may have caught him by surprised but I think he's had a plan ready for a while now.

[Niall_Quinn]

Did the club even think about a new manager when it was announced that Wenger was leaving? I think I read or heard somewhere that Wenger found out he was going to be asked to leave in the summer, but decided he was going to leave on his terms so announced it earlier and caught the club on the hop.

Yep, that's what was being said on the day. But nobody ran with it because the Wenger lovefest was gearing up.

[Letters]

It was actually explicitly said that the timing of the announcement was not Wenger's decision.
By Wenger, admittedly, but I don't remember anyone contradicting that.

[AFC Leveller]

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32684126_2116845411886120_860819443071057920_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=0&oh=3575b81863b7dc0de3b158d827859c9a&oe=5B89C414

[Letters]

:lol:


:ilt:

[Gooner23]

[QUOTE=The Emirates Gallactico;4453639]I'm slowing warming towards Arteta especially after reading Le Grove's piece and various other snippets about some of his coaching methods and the impact he's had. Apparently he's the one that stayed behind in training to work with Sane & Sterling to get them to improve their end product.

Apparently told Messi & Sherwood too fuck off when the former was time wasting and the latter was having a go at Sagna. :bow:

It may just be confirmation bias and me trying to reassure myself now though.

Still would prefer Allegri but I wouldn't be totally aghast if it was Arteta. Either way he has my full support and he should have the support of the fans with us purely judging him on the results & performances he delivers rather than the sexiness of his name or reputation.]



That's pretty much my thoughts as well. Wouldn't have been my first choice but I can also see why they might be considering the gamble. Two years under Pep will have taught him a lot. And he must have impressed enough to have been selected in the first place. If chosen he should get our full support.

[AFC Leveller]

The fact that both Pochetinho and Pep fought it out for his signature 2 years ago says he has something about him.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

The fact that both Pochetinho and Pep fought it out for his signature 2 years ago says he has something about him.

No doubt about that. I think the chances of Arteta becoming an excellent manager one day is very high based everything that's been said about him and the way he conducts himself.

The problem is, is that moment right now? Would have preferred he cut his teeth at a team like West Ham/Everton/Palace and then we made a move. I guess the fear is that we would have risked losing out on him that way to a Cieth.

Heck if he becomes a roaring success for us, chances are that Barca will come pining for him one day so it's not like we're guaranteed his services forever.

[Marc Overmars]

None of us are privy to what goes on behind the scenes and how people like Arteta are regarded in the game. The new regime hasn't given us a reason to doubt them as of yet, they negated the blow of losing Alexis and finally managed to get Wenger out. It's been a good start for them but now it's time for them to make a reputation-defining decision. I'm intrigued and most importantly ready to back the club 100% for the first time in years.

[Power n Glory]

None of us are privy to what goes on behind the scenes and how people like Arteta are regarded in the game. The new regime hasn't given us a reason to doubt them as of yet, they negated the blow of losing Alexis and finally managed to get Wenger out. It's been a good start for them but now it's time for them to make a reputation-defining decision. I'm intrigued and most importantly ready to back the club 100% for the first time in years.

Good point about the club finding replacements for Alexis and acting quickly. For the first time we did what we were supposed to and in coincides with the appointment of Raul and Sven along with Wenger losing his influence.

Also, we managed to convince Ozil to sign a deal and have gone back to offer Jack a better deal. Goes to show that we don't have complete retards running the club and can see a situation for what it is. They had way too much faith in Wenger for way too long.