Euro 2024

[McNamara That Ghost...]

That one will count

[Mac76]

1-1 Lukaka

Slovakia

:pal:

[Letters]

:lol: now they’re checking for a handball?! :popcorn:

[HCZ_Reborn]

This one is going to get chalked off as well

[Letters]

That one will count

It would be super harsh to chalk that off

[Mac76]

Does look like handball

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Or not. :lol:

[Letters]

:haha:

No goal

[HCZ_Reborn]

It would be super harsh to chalk that off

And yet it has been

[Letters]

Does look like handball

I mean, it did hit his hand but did that really affect the play?

[Letters]

7 added minutes :lol:

[Mac76]

I mean, it did hit his hand but did that really affect the play?

it did reduce the upward movement of the ball so arguably maybe made it easier to control and perhaps less likely for the other player to win it - don't get me wrong not a huge amount in it but i would want it chalked off it was against us

[Letters]

1-0 FT!

Brilliant :lol:

[HCZ_Reborn]

Anyway FT. Belgium continue their poor run of form in tournaments from the World Cup

[Letters]

Tin Tin :haha:
Poirot :haha:
Er….?

[HCZ_Reborn]

Waffles

Anyway Saliba starts for France (who would be the tournament favourites if the media and bookies hadn’t collectively taken leave of their senses)

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Austria: Pentz, Posch, Danso, Wober, Mwene, Seiwald, Sabitzer, Laimer, Baumgartner, Grillitisch, Gregoritsch
Subs: Lindner, Hedl, Trauner, Arnautovic, Prass, Querfeld, Linehart, Kainz, Schmid, Daniliuc, Seidl, Wimmer, Weimann, Entrup, Grull.

France: Maignan, Kounde, Upamecano, Saliba, Hernandez, Kante, Rabiot, Dembele, Griezmann, Thurman, Mbappe
Subs: Samba, Areola, Konate, Barcola, Mendy, Camavinga, Coman, Pavard, Kolo Muani, Giroud, Tchouameni, Zaire-Emery, Fofana, Clauss

[Mac76]

Tin Tin :haha:
Poirot :haha:
Er….?

Cloudy strawberry beer

[HCZ_Reborn]

Austria: Pentz, Posch, Danso, Wober, Mwene, Seiwald, Sabitzer, Laimer, Baumgartner, Grillitisch, Gregoritsch
Subs: Lindner, Hedl, Trauner, Arnautovic, Prass, Querfeld, Linehart, Kainz, Schmid, Daniliuc, Seidl, Wimmer, Weimann, Entrup, Grull.

France: Maignan, Kounde, Upamecano, Saliba, Hernandez, Kante, Rabiot, Dembele, Griezmann, Thurman, Mbappe
Subs: Samba, Areola, Konate, Barcola, Mendy, Camavinga, Coman, Pavard, Kolo Muani, Giroud, Tchouameni, Zaire-Emery, Fofana, Clauss

How the fuck do Rabiot and Kante (who clearly hasn’t been the same player for some time) get in above Tchouameni and Camavinga.

Dont get me wrong he’s a level better than Southgate but you think what the French could have won if they had a better coach than Deschamps? It’s absurd

[McNamara That Ghost...]

That should be Thuram up front I presume. :lol:

Copied and pasted it from BBC live text.

[Letters]

Great chance for Austria.
Good save but he should have scored.

[Letters]

1-0 France.
og

[McNamara That Ghost...]

OG is having a decent tournament.

[HCZ_Reborn]

OG is having a decent tournament.

Only player to have scored more than once in this tournament

[Letters]

Sign him up, Mikel.

[Letters]

How did Mbappe miss that?!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Mbappe. :haha:

[HCZ_Reborn]

How did Mbappe miss that?!

Up there with Ronnie Rosenthal and Ryan Giggs

[Letters]

Up there with Ronnie Rosenthal and Ryan Giggs

Giggs in the Cup? That was way worse, it was literally an open goal.

France look pretty good, which I guess should be no surprise

[Letters]

Yellow card for Bum Gardener.
Seemed harsh.

[Letters]

Giroud coming on :bow:

[Mac76]

Bit of a pub win but a clean sheet for France

Saliba :bow:

[Mac76]

Giroud coming on :bow:

Missed a sitter as usual :lol:

[Letters]

Missed a sitter as usual :lol:

Yes, he did somewhat fluff his lines.

[Mac76]

Yes, he did somewhat fluff his lines.

:good: :)

[HCZ_Reborn]

Always thought there was something deeply sinister about the Turkish national anthem, it’s the Imperial March of national anthems

[HCZ_Reborn]

It also should be said that if a pelanty shoot out had gone the other way, that Turkey would be playing Greece now and the German police would probably end up calling on the support of the armed forces in Dortmund :lol:

[Letters]

Turkey 1 - Georgia 0

Ooft. What a hit

[Letters]

2-0 about a minute later! :lol:

[Letters]

Hmm. Looks offside actually :popcorn:

[Letters]

Yes it was. Stays 1-0

[Letters]

1-1!
Keeper should have saved that

[HCZ_Reborn]

1-1!
Keeper should have saved that

He should have indeed, maybe can blame the wet pitch but not really

[Letters]

The Georgian goal scorer, sounds like his name is pronounced roughly like Mikel Arteta :unsure:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Turkey 2-1 Georgia, Guler!! Holy shit what a strike

[Letters]

Turkey 2-1 Georgia, Guler!! Holy shit what a strike

What Maccy said.
Pick that one out!

[Letters]

Georgia hit the bar!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

How am not 2-2

[McNamara That Ghost...]

3-1 now!

[Letters]

3-1 :lol:

Empty goal with the Georgia ‘keeper upfield.
What a game!

[HCZ_Reborn]

Geriatric team for Portugal with Pepe and Ronaldo starting

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Portugal: Costa, Dias, Pepe, Nuno Mendes, Dalot, Bruno Fernandes, Vitinha, Joao Cancelo, Bernardo Silva, Ronaldo, Leao.
Subs: Rui Patricio, Nelson Semedo, Joao Palhinha, Goncalo Ramos, Joao Felix, Jose Sa, Danilo Pereira, Inacio, Joao Neves, Matheus Luiz, Ruben Neves, Jota, Silva, Pedro Neto, Francisco Conceicao.

Czech Republic: Stanek, Hranac, Krejci, Holes, Soucek, Coufal, Provod, Sulc, Doudera, Schick, Kuchta.
Subs: Zima, Vitik, Barak, Sevcik, Hlozek, Chytil, David Jurasek, Kovar, Cerny, Chory, Lingr, Cerv, Jaros, Vlcek, Matej Jurasek.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Come on Czechia.

[Letters]

Come on Czechia.

Is that some new made up country?

[Letters]

Why didn’t Silva shoot then?! :doh:

[Letters]

1-0 to the Czech Republic!

Great goal

[McNamara That Ghost...]

0-1 Czech Republic!

Martinez. :haha:

[Mac76]

What a strike

Ronaldo :pal:

[Letters]

1-1

A mess of an og
Complete pinball :doh:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-1 OG again! :bow:

[Marc Overmars]

Portugal are too one dimensional with Ronaldo. Predictable crossing trying to put it on his head.

[Letters]

2-1 Portugal :doh:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

2-1 Jota!

[Marc Overmars]

Offside :lol:

[Letters]

Given as offside :haha:

1-1

[McNamara That Ghost...]

No goal. :lol:

[Letters]

This semi-automatic thing seems to be working well.
Although I still think when things are as marginal as that was they should probably leave it alone

[Letters]

Ugh. 2-1 Portugal.
Another mess in defence

[Marc Overmars]

Portugal win it at the death

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Not ruling that one out.

[Letters]

I’m enjoying this tournament but it’s been full of really good performances from underdogs who have almost all got beaten anyway :(

[Mac76]

This semi-automatic thing seems to be working well.
Although I still think when things are as marginal as that was they should probably leave it alone

It wasn't remotely marginal, the minute they showed a replay it was obvious

[Letters]

It wasn't remotely marginal, the minute they showed a replay it was obvious

You saw it was offside in real time?

[Mac76]

You saw it was offside in real time?

I didn't see it when the goal was scored but that was watching it in a pub a little away from the screen plus it was being shown from an angle - but on the first replay, which i think was in normal speed, it was obvious.

To the lino it would have been a no-brainer

[Letters]

To the lino it would have been a no-brainer
Why didn’t the flag go up then? (Or did it?)

[Mac76]

Why didn’t the flag go up then? (Or did it?)

just watched it again and you can't see the lino at the key time so it's not clear if he flagged - he wasn't quite in line tbf

i must admit the defender's elbow is out which does make it a closer call than i thought but i'd still say it's pretty clear, it's not like it was a by a millimetre or anything

that new technology is really good by the looks of it

[HCZ_Reborn]

Ugh I went big on my predictor by showing Croatia to go through Albania like shit through a goose. I felt that they were unlucky to lose 3-0 to Spain.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Croatia turn it around to lead 2-1. That OG might sound like a Neanderthal but he’s been pretty prolific this tournament

[Letters]

2-2!!

[HCZ_Reborn]

2-2!!

Get the impression neither of these teams going through to last 16

[HCZ_Reborn]

Some of the goalkeeping in this tournament has been suspect.

Livakovic should have saved Albania’s first goal

Czech goalkeeper yesterday should have held onto the ball before Og knocked it in


Turkish keeper beaten at his near post for Georgia goal


Lunin had a shit show against Romania

[Mac76]

not sure i agree re the Czech guy, it's risky to try to hold onto a ball with that much power behind it

I thought the defender was more at fault, what did he think he'd achieve running in twoards the goal like that when the keeper was already there? He should have left the goalie the space to do his job

[HCZ_Reborn]

not sure i agree re the Czech guy, it's risky to try to hold onto a ball with that much power behind it

I thought the defender was more at fault, what did he think he'd achieve running in twoards the goal like that when the keeper was already there? He should have left the goalie the space to do his job

If the defender hadn’t got there, a Portuguese player would have

[Mac76]

If the defender hadn’t got there, a Portuguese player would have

OK that's fair, just watched it again and you're right the defender had Ronaldo right behind him, ok i'll concede that one :)

[HCZ_Reborn]

OK that's fair, just watched it again and you're right the defender had Ronaldo right behind him, ok i'll concede that one :)

In fairness I also looked at it again before replying

What is going on with that German kit ?

[Mac76]

That German kit - really?

[HCZ_Reborn]

That German kit - really?

Maybe it’s an environmental lesson about not putting anything on a 40 degree + wash unless you have to, because apart from anything else the colours will run

[Mac76]

:lol:

The puzzling thing is that they're the 'home' side in this game - i guess they need to try to sell that second kit though...

[Mac76]

Why is Ben White working with Nagelsman?

[Mac76]

The way the defender holds Havertz there, it's a half-decent pel shout IMO

[HCZ_Reborn]

Germany 1-0 Hungary Musiala

Finally have a player who has got more than one goal

Defender gives it back to Gundogan :haha:

[Mac76]

1-0 Musiala, bit of a pub goal tbh

[Letters]

1-0 Germany.

VAR check upheld it, looked like a foul to me. I mean, if the German player hadn’t bumped him he’d have surely dealt with it.

[HCZ_Reborn]

How did Hungary not equalise

[Letters]

How did Hungary not equalise

More fairly mediocre goalkeeping, but Hungary failed to take advantage

[HCZ_Reborn]

More fairly mediocre goalkeeping, but Hungary failed to take advantage

Ja

[HCZ_Reborn]

I’m enjoying this game, chances, decent football and fuck ups from both teams

[Mac76]

Offside but good attack from Hungary

[Mac76]

2-0 Gundogan

[Mac76]

Sane :lol:

[Mac76]

Ends 2-0, Germany look strong in attack again, but a little shaky in defence, a good quality team could cause them genuine problems I think

[HCZ_Reborn]

Ugh I went big on my predictor by showing Croatia to go through Albania like shit through a goose. I felt that they were unlucky to lose 3-0 to Spain.

Oh well made up for it with this game, predicted the result, scoreline and first goal scorer accurately

[HCZ_Reborn]

Ends 2-0, Germany look strong in attack again, but a little shaky in defence, a good quality team could cause them genuine problems I think

Yeah I’d agree with that

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Scotland: Gunn; Ralston, Hendry, Hanley, Tierney; Robertson, McGinn, McGregor, Gilmour, McTominay; Adams
Subs: Kelly, Clark, Shankland, Christie, Cooper, Armstrong, Morgan, Conway, Jack, McCrorie, McLean, Taylor, Forrest, McKenna

Switzerland: Sommer; Widmer, Akanji, Schar; Rodriguez, Freuler, Xhaka, Ndoye; Vargas, Aebischer, Shaqiri
Subs: Mvogo, Kobel, Stergiou, Elvedi, Embolo, Okafor, Steffen, Zesiger, Sierro, Duah, Jashari, Amdouni, Rieder

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Scotland feeling positive, well obviously they're going out again then.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Scotland back 5. :lol:

Pub team

Still hopefully Tierney plays well.

Shop window. :bow:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-0 McTominay.

[Mac76]

Schar :lol:

I'm sure the keeper had that covered

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-1 Shaqiri. :lol:

I missed it.

[Shaqiri Is Boss]

Shaqiri has woken up from his 4 year slumber.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Disallowed goal for Switzerland. :lol:

[Mac76]

Shaqiri has woken up from his 4 year slumber.

It was worth the wait, great strike

[Mac76]

Good first half, let's hope it stays close

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Great save from Gunn.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Tierney stretchered off.

Made of glass.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

How has that not gone in for Scotland?

[Letters]

Is that better? :unsure:

[Mac76]

Yes :)

Really gutted for Tierney, this wasn't to do with him it was one of those freak injuries that could happen to anyone

That's his tournament done, poor lad

[HCZ_Reborn]

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cd110nzxwvko.amp


Difference is Serbia did actually kill ethnic Albanians


They can fuck off, leave the tournament then. No one cares….scumbag country

[HCZ_Reborn]

Come on Slovenia !

[WMUG]

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cd110nzxwvko.amp


Difference is Serbia did actually kill ethnic Albanians


They can fuck off, leave the tournament then. No one cares….scumbag country

And Croats comitted a genocide of ethnic Serbs in WW2 and ethnic cleansing in the 90s. It's not mentioned in that article, but the chanting was actually in Serbo-Croatian so it's unlikely that it was Albanians who started it, though I'm sure they joined in.

Nobody in that region has a clean copy book, especially not Serbia, but I think it's fair enough to draw the line at explicit calls for killing.

If Serbian fans start chanting about killing Albanians and Croats in the next game, then sanction them as well.

[HCZ_Reborn]

1-0 Slovenia Karničnik

[HCZ_Reborn]

And Croats comitted a genocide of ethnic Serbs in WW2 and ethnic cleansing in the 90s. It's not mentioned in that article, but the chanting was actually in Serbo-Croatian so it's unlikely that it was Albanians who started it, though I'm sure they joined in.

Nobody in that region has a clean copy book, especially not Serbia, but I think it's fair enough to draw the line at explicit calls for killing.

If Serbian fans start chanting about killing Albanians and Croats in the next game, then sanction them as well.


The point I’m making is that I’m not going to accept any righteous indignation from Serbia

Plus Id quite happily let the Croats and the Serbs kill each other if that’s what they want

[Mac76]

close from Mitrovic

[HCZ_Reborn]

Serbian fans up to their usual tricks of chucking stuff at players

[Mac76]

bloody hell 1-1

[HCZ_Reborn]

Oh bugger

[HCZ_Reborn]

Even better news, we are playing the same side as we did against Serbia

Doubling down on failure

[Letters]

I hope we win, tbh

[Letters]

Oh bugger
Isn’t that good for us?

[Mac76]

Rubbish shot from Foden

[Letters]

KANE! 1-0

[Letters]

Rubbish shot from Foden

It was, but good work to lead up to it so I’ll let him off

[Mac76]

Tap in for the whale, that's any hope of his being dropped gone then

[Mac76]

Shut up Shearer, Watkins would just as easily have been onto that, as would anyone who can kick a ball

[Letters]

Shut up Shearer, Watkins would just as easily have been onto that, as would anyone who can kick a ball

Dude.
You really need to grow up.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Isn’t that good for us?

We will get through the group no matter what. I wanted Serbia to lose

[Letters]

1-1.

Piss. What a hit though

[HCZ_Reborn]

1-1 oh dear

[Mac76]

1-1 Great goal for Denmark, K*** with the assist

[Letters]

Although, the defence wasn’t exactly stellar.
He had so much time. No-one is closing him down

[HCZ_Reborn]

Although, the defence wasn’t exactly stellar.
He had so much time. No-one is closing him down

It’s the fact that we are a) sitting too deep b) have Alexander Arnold in midfield

[Letters]

Pickford giving the defenders a bollocking.
Quite rightly, they’re not protecting him.

[Letters]

Oh, Foden.
Another excellent run and weak shot.
Don’t feel I can be too hard on him but the lack of end product is frustrating

[HCZ_Reborn]

1-1 HT

[Letters]

So shaky at the back.

[Mac76]

It’s the fact that we are a) sitting too deep b) have Alexander Arnold in midfield

And c) have a moronic elephant in attack who doesn't hold the line up front and provided Denmark with their goal, his tap-in is a disaster, Southgate won't drop him now

Richards is right K*** needs to be dropped for Watkins - Soithgate won't though

[Letters]

:yawn:

[Mac76]

I know the truth can be boring but it's still the truth, and it's not just me, the pundits have talked about nothing else but how bad K***'s been, tap-in notwithstanding

[Letters]

The entire basis for what I’ll charitably call your “opinion” is that he used to play for Spurs.
I can’t be bothered engaging with it.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Kane is hardly the biggest issue for England, the problem is Rice is being asked to do too much, he has no central midfield partner….youve got players like Trippier who demand the ball but have zero pace, and you’ve got Foden being a dickhead. Kane was a muppet for giving away the ball from a throw in but why is Alexander Arnold not stepping up to close the guy down, because he’s not a midfielder that’s why

[HCZ_Reborn]

The entire basis for what I’ll charitably call your “opinion” is that he used to play for Spurs.
I can’t be bothered engaging with it.

Kane hasn’t been good today goal aside, but yes there is an element of it being emphasised to the exclusion of everything else. As if swapping Kane out for Watkins is the magic antidote.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Alexander Arnold muscled off the ball and ref takes pity on him

[Mac76]

Kane hasn’t been good today goal aside, but yes there is an element of it being emphasised to the exclusion of everything else. As if swapping Kane out for Watkins is the magic antidote.

I added it to the two points you made so clearly I'm not saying it's the only thing but tbh it's a lot more obvious than TAA, with whom you have your own negative obsession btw

[Mac76]

The entire basis for what I’ll charitably call your “opinion” is that he used to play for Spurs.
I can’t be bothered engaging with it.

No, it's because he's fat, slow, stupid and as the pundits spent the whole of the HT saying, can't perform his role - am I wrong?

[HCZ_Reborn]

I added it to the two points you made so clearly I'm not saying it's the only thing but tbh it's a lot more obvious than TAA, with whom you have your own negative obsession btw

I don’t dislike him at all he’s a good set piece player and he can give you a good burst of pace but he’s not a central midfielder and it’s clearly having the biggest impact on our cohesion. Even with the run he made just now, awful pass at the end of it

[Mac76]

The lack of a target man holding the line up front is denying us a lot of opportunity to attack, that's a greater issue than TAA

[Mac76]

Southgate's hauled off TAA but he's not the guts to swap out K***

[Letters]

Foden smacks the post!

[HCZ_Reborn]

The lack of a target man holding the line up front is denying us a lot of opportunity to attack, that's a greater issue than TAA

No it really isn’t

We aren’t set up to just keep lumping the ball down the pitch, so we need midfielders available who can receive the ball deep as well as press

[Mac76]

No it really isn’t

We aren’t set up to just keep lumping the ball down the pitch, so we need midfielders available who can receive the ball deep as well as press

As you well know it's not about lumping the ball, it's not having a forward pass on or someone to keep their defenders busy

[Letters]

Gallagher booked for looking like Wesley from The Princess Bride

[Mac76]

Well over frim Ericsen

[HCZ_Reborn]

As you well know it's not about lumping the ball, it's not having a forward pass on or someone to keep their defenders busy

The point is you need it so that those players are getting the ball in a timely fashion

Rice is occupied by putting out fires caused by a shit defence

You only have one full back with any pace. It’s not about defending Kane, it’s about recognising that whilst we have too many other liabilities and lopsidedness, it’s a second or third order concern

[HCZ_Reborn]

Rice been poor as well

[Mac76]

Finally the whale is beached

Come on Watkins get a couple of goals and save us

[HCZ_Reborn]

Don’t get why Saka was pulled.

[Letters]

No, it's because he's fat, slow, stupid and as the pundits spent the whole of the HT saying, can't perform his role - am I wrong?

The fact you started that with

fat - demonstrably untrue
slow - possible but irrelevant. He is not and has never been a Michael Owen, relying on his pace
and stupid - definitely true but completely irrelevant

Makes you hard to take seriously.

He hasn’t been that good in this tournament but a couple of players aside who has really?
If the system isn’t working for Kane then change the system, don’t change Kane. He’s consistently scored goals at every level. He’s England’s top scorer, he’s just broken a bunch of Bundasliga records. Their failure last season is despite him, not because of him. Your failure to acknowledge any of that makes you hard to take seriously. Like the Scottish bloke on here with Saka.

All that said, I see Kane has just been hauled off :lol:

[HCZ_Reborn]

Fucking Bowen, for all we’ve gained for brining on Ollie Watkins we’ve lost by bringing him on

And fucking Trippier, wins a duel but too slow to catch up with the ball

[Marc Overmars]

Watkins already a much better option for the team than Kane.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Watkins already a much better option for the team than Kane.

Yep only we’ve lost our attacking outlet on the right by swapping out Saka for Bowen

On the left Eze having to come too deep because Trippier is terrible

[Mac76]

Guehi messef up but Denmark made nothing of it

[HCZ_Reborn]

Fuck me Rice has been shockingly bad

Guehi awful as well

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Guehi. :lol:

[Marc Overmars]

This has been quite shit. The team is completely unbalanced but there has been so much dithering and unforced errors.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Why the fuck was Bowen brought on

[Mac76]

The fact you started that with

fat - demonstrably untrue
slow - possible but irrelevant. He is not and has never been a Michael Owen, relying on his pace
and stupid - definitely true but completely irrelevant

Makes you hard to take seriously.

He hasn’t been that good in this tournament but a couple of players aside who has really?
If the system isn’t working for Kane then change the system, don’t change Kane. He’s consistently scored goals at every level. He’s England’s top scorer, he’s just broken a bunch of Bundasliga records. Their failure last season is despite him, not because of him. Your failure to acknowledge any of that makes you hard to take seriously. Like the Scottish bloke on here with Saka.

All that said, I see Kane has just been hauled off :lol:

Indeed and his past record is irrelevant, it's about now, plus a lot of those goals were dodgy pels and tap-ins

[Letters]

We are so shit :doh:

[Letters]

Guehi. :lol:

To be fair, he shat the bed but recovered well

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-1 FT. :lol:

[Letters]

Indeed and his past record is irrelevant, it's about now, plus a lot of those goals were dodgy pels and tap-ins

It is about now, but as I said his record last season suggests he’s not a busted flush.
I couldn’t give a shit how the goals go in.
We were poor today. We were poor with Kane on the field, we were poor when he wasn’t.
It’s so painful watching England in these tournaments. So laboured.

[Mac76]

Dreadful stuff but England are lucky they're in such a soft group, they'll pub their way through for a bit ofc, for me i hope the whole sorry mess is over asap and we can enjoy decent football

[HCZ_Reborn]

As I stated Kane coming off the pitch made hardly any difference, not because Watkins is not necessarily a better option but because the ball isn’t getting up the pitch quick enough

Rice was poor today but ultimately he doesn’t trust Guehi behind him, or Alexander Arnold/Gallagher to the side of him. Equally there’s no overlap between wingers and full backs. Felt sorry for Eze when he came on, zero support

[Marc Overmars]

Bizarre how you’ve got so many players out there who can press from the front and make runs in behind, yet we see none of that for England.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Spain: Simon, Carvajal, Le Normand, Laporte, Cucurella, Gonzalez, Rodri, Fabian, Yamal, Morata, Williams.
Subs: Raya, Vivian, Merino, Joselu, Olmo, Torres, Grimaldo, Remiro, Baena, Zubimendi, Oyarzabal, Jesus Navas, Lopez, Perez, Nacho.

Italy: Donnarumma, Di Lorenzo, Bastoni, Calafiori, Dimarco, Frattesi, Jorginho, Barella, Chiesa, Scamacca, Pellegrini.
Subs: Buongiorno, Gatti, Raspadori, Vicario, Darmian, Bellanova, Cristante, Mancini, Retegui, Zaccagni, Fagioli, El Shaarawy, Cambiaso, Folorunsho, Meret.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Bizarre how you’ve got so many players out there who can press from the front and make runs in behind, yet we see none of that for England.

That’s on Southgate


Next match for me


Pickford, Gomez, Stones, Walker, TAA, Rice, Bellingham, Palmer, Saka, Watkins, Eze

[HCZ_Reborn]

Player ratings

Pickford 6 - Stop punching you prick

Walker 5 - Doesn’t overlap with Saka often enough and gives the ball away too much

Guehi 3 - Not good enough at this level, Rice seems to shit himself on the ball because of this guy behind him

Stones 5 - Not doing enough to protect his centre back partner

Trippier 4 - Fuck off

Rice 5 - Putting out too many fires, although was shockingly casual on the ball himself


Alexander Arnold 3 - Fuck off and Fuck off again


Bellingham 5.5 - Anonymous


Foden 5.5 - Still being a sulking prick


Saka 7 - Our only attacking outlet for much of the game, so obviously Southgate takes him off


Kane 5 - Gets a 5 for the goal, but he’s committed to being the wandering Jew



Subs


Bowen 4 - Cunt

Gallagher 5 - Effort is there but not good enough


Eze 5 - Completely isolated


Watkins 6 - Raw pace would have been an asset to us, shame he hardly saw the ball after five minutes of being on

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Clive Tyldesley commentating, he can have a go at the Spanish players for not singing the lyrics to their anthem again.

[HCZ_Reborn]

Clive Tyldesley commentating, he can have a go at the Spanish players for not singing the lyrics to their anthem again.

Did he actually do that?

Moron

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Williams should score!

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Did he actually do that?

Moron

Oh yes he did! :haha:

[Marc Overmars]

That’s on Southgate


Next match for me


Pickford, Gomez, Stones, Walker, TAA, Rice, Bellingham, Palmer, Saka, Watkins, Eze

I would actually consider that kid from Palace next to Rice

[HCZ_Reborn]

Spain the better side, playing some good football as well, just missing the finishing touch

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Calafiori OG!

OG in this tournament. :bow:

[Letters]

1-0 FT

[HCZ_Reborn]

Not a classic by any means. Italians very poor, Spain looking a bit knackered last twenty minutes….lots of good football but lacking the finesse. Needed OG to step up once again

[Letters]

Dreadful stuff but England are lucky they're in such a soft group, they'll pub their way through for a bit ofc, for me i hope the whole sorry mess is over asap and we can enjoy decent football

I generally enjoy tournaments more when we are out. Then you can just relax and enjoy it.
Unfortunately we are now “contenders”, although we aren’t playing like it right now.

[HCZ_Reborn]

I generally enjoy tournaments more when we are out. Then you can just relax and enjoy it.
Unfortunately we are now “contenders”, although we aren’t playing like it right now.

Knowing that we could win the thing if we had picked a slightly different squad and didn’t have a cretin as coach is infuriating. The only comfort is in knowing Southgate is gone after this tournament, even the pundits are turning on him.

We need a competent midfield partner for Rice and upgrade in defence and I honestly think we’d win the World Cup.

[Letters]

I know the buck stops with the manager, but you can’t blame him for international footballers getting basic things wrong. As much as Mac’s little obsession with Kane is tiresome, that loose pass which led to the equaliser yesterday was feeble. And it wasn’t all Kane’s fault, no one else was closing down.
The players have to take some responsibility too.

[HCZ_Reborn]

I know the buck stops with the manager, but you can’t blame him for international footballers getting basic things wrong. As much as Mac’s little obsession with Kane is tiresome, that loose pass which led to the equaliser yesterday was feeble. And it wasn’t all Kane’s fault, no one else was closing down.
The players have to take some responsibility too.

This is not just the last two games we are talking about though, there has been this tendency to retreat into our shell and not have an avenue to stem the tide since the guy became head coach. We do have some very skilled attacking players arguably the best attacking players in the tournament. And we play so deep, stand off etc…that’s a tactical thing…the commentators yesterday all pointed out that there was no team pressing…and then you look at the substitutions and how many of them simply didn’t work.

Eze completely left on his own because he didn’t have a full back capable of overlapping, we took off Saka who had been our best attacking player and replaced him with Bowen.


Rice is being expected essentially to function as both a number 6 and a number 8.


Kane is clearly not helping he’s not coming short to receive a pass or occupy defenders, he seems preoccupied with playing in midfield.


I think we have undeniable talent and a better coach would have found a way to either play a system that gets the best out of all of them, or have the strength of character to drop players who don’t fit into the system. Southgate does neither

[Mac76]

Calafiori OG!

OG in this tournament. :bow:

wasn't able to watch last night but just saw highligts, Spain had a ridiculous number of chances but yes another OG :lol:

[HCZ_Reborn]

wasn't able to watch last night but just saw highligts, Spain had a ridiculous number of chances but yes another OG :lol:

I would probably say that of all the own goals in this tournament that was the biggest unforced error. He wasn’t under pressure, he had time to clear it.


Spain were quite wasteful….they created plenty of good chances and the result (if not the scoreline) was reflective that they were the better side by some distance, but will need to be more clinical against better team.


Would like to see Spain vs Germany 1/4 final

[Mac76]

Slovakia 1-0 up at HT against Ukraine - the goal was a result of shite defending by, yes you guessed it, our friend Zin :lol:

[Mac76]

1-1- Zin assist :lol:

poor defending though

[HCZ_Reborn]

Yaremchuk turns it around

FT Slovakia 1-2 Ukraine. Group E is very open

[Mac76]

1-0 to Austria, they've started strongly

[HCZ_Reborn]

Yep Poland barely got out of their own half, all Austria

[HCZ_Reborn]

:lol: and now the poles equalise

[McNamara That Ghost...]

1-2 Austria, Baumgartner!

[Mac76]

Good goal

[Letters]

Bum Gardener :d

[Letters]

Decent save from Szcscscsney, but he should have scored

[Letters]

Pel to Austria

[Mac76]

Decent save from Szcscscsney, but he should have scored

I always thought it was 'Sir Chesny' that's how Alan Green always said it :lol:

and now he's given away a pelanty :haha:

[Letters]

Which they score. Szczczczney arguably should have been sent off.
Although there wasn’t that much contact actually

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Ches. :lol:

[Mac76]

great save Sir Chezny

[Letters]

Poland are getting a right spanking here :lol:

[Mac76]

Austria look pretty handy tbh

Poland have France next but if France beat the Dutch tonight they might coast that potentially

[HCZ_Reborn]

Austria look pretty handy tbh

Poland have France next but if France beat the Dutch tonight they might coast that potentially

If France beat the Dutch, the Netherlands-Austria match might be a fierce contest

[HCZ_Reborn]

Anyway Mbappe only on the bench for France, interestingly Deschamps has decided to start with an extra midfielder instead bringing Tchouameni into the starting XI


Dutch don’t impress me, very mediocre team

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Netherlands: Verbruggen; Dumfries, De Vrij, Van Dijk, Ake; Schouten, Reijnders, Simons; Frimpong, Depay, Gakpo
Subs: Bijlow, Flekken, Geertruida, De Ligt, Wijnaldum, Weghorst, Van de Ven, Veerman, Blind, Malen, Brobbey, Maatsen, Zirkzee, Bergwijn, Gravenberch

France: Maignan; Kounde, Upamecano, Saliba, Hernandez; Kante, Tchouameni; Dembele, Griezmann, Rabiot; Thuram.
Subs: Samba, Areola, Pavard, Mendy, Camavinga, Giroud, Mbappe, Kolo Muani, Zaïre-Emery, Fofana, Coman, Clauss, Konate, Barcola

[Mac76]

I see the Dutch have had the sense to leave thwir resident Spud on the bench

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Saves from either keeper early on.

[Letters]

Two proper sides :bow:

[Letters]

The trouble with France is they always try and walk it in the net :lol:

[McNamara That Ghost...]

How have France conspired not to score?

[Letters]

How have France conspired not to score?

They made a complete mess of that.

Nice to see two teams who actually want to attack. Take note, Southgate

[HCZ_Reborn]

They made a complete mess of that.

Nice to see two teams who actually want to attack. Take note, Southgate

Feel utterly depressed that I vividly remember the last time these two played each other in a major tournament. Euro 2008….4-1 to the Dutch

[Letters]

Reijnders
Is that what the royal family call the simplified UK version of baseball? :unsure:

[Letters]

Feel utterly depressed that I vividly remember the last time these two played each other in a major tournament. Euro 2008….4-1 to the Dutch

I remember the “Hand of God” goal :oldboy:

[Letters]

Saliba :bow:

[Mac76]

Dull first half, the moment Germane Genius said at the beginning "we're in for a real treat" this game was doomed

[HCZ_Reborn]

I remember the “Hand of God” goal :oldboy:

First international tournament I remember is Italia 90 and Stuart Pearce and Chris Waddle missing pels

Has Rooney suffered a stroke ?

[Mac76]

F**k me how lardy is Rooney now!? what a gutbucket

[Letters]

F**k me how lardy is Rooney now!? what a gutbucket

He was never exactly slight!

[HCZ_Reborn]

Looks more like he’s under steroid treatment

[Mac76]

I honestly thought it was some rugby player at first

[Mac76]

Jesus this is so boring

[Mac76]

Phew the players are back

[Letters]

This isn’t a great game given the quality out there

[Letters]

Bloody hell. France made a mess of another one!

[Letters]

1-0 Netherlands!

[Letters]

Nope. Offside :haha:

[HCZ_Reborn]

Netherlands score but chalked off

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Didn't think it was

[Letters]

Oh that’s bullshit :lol:
Yes he’s standing offside but that goal is going in whether he’s there or not.

[Mac76]

So typical the British VAR guys taking ages

[Marc Overmars]

Harsh decision that.

[Mac76]

Tbf i do think the whole 'not interfering with play' thing is BS, if someone's off they're off