Wenger must go end of the season

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25-01-2012, 10:56 AM
Alpha

Wenger must go ? hmmmmm.....maybe yes..maybe no..simple to say it after a disappointing result which has at least revealed a new jewel . But the question is : Who will replace him and keep Arsenal at the same level ? I remember when Man U thrashed Arsenal 6-1 there were same feeling and people called for Wenger's head . A certain Thierry Henry played in that game and ended up getting the whole Man U team scared for life afterward. Alex Ox Chamberlain will surely be the next " Thierry Henry" and not Walcott . He will scare defenders . But he needs Wenger to achieve that . Wenger must go ? You may say yes and its your right but I say NO and its my right .
25-01-2012, 11:06 AM
Coney

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Originally Posted by Alpha

Wenger must go ? hmmmmm.....maybe yes..maybe no..simple to say it after a disappointing result which has at least revealed a new jewel . But the question is : Who will replace him and keep Arsenal at the same level ? I remember when Man U thrashed Arsenal 6-1 there were same feeling and people called for Wenger's head . A certain Thierry Henry played in that game and ended up getting the whole Man U team scared for life afterward. Alex Ox Chamberlain will surely be the next " Thierry Henry" and not Walcott . He will scare defenders . But he needs Wenger to achieve that . Wenger must go ? You may say yes and its your right but I say NO and its my right .

I would have gone with that way of thinking - did go along with that for the last few years - in the belief that in time we would recover the situation. However, the master plan that Wenger seemed to have has not acheived the result. I was OK going along with it - the idea of building a new team with new young talent, forming something that could last for several years at the top was a nice idea. However, the last couple of years have shown it is just not going to work. There was no backbone in the team when things went wrong, some players were being given far too long and far too many chances to see if they would finally perform.

When we got to the end of the last season and Wenger said we would have to change the approach then I was still OK with that. However, the words have not been matched by actions. I don't say this because of the 8-2 at manu, or even losing to manu at home as well. The problem is that we are still failing in the same area. Not losing to other top teams sometimes - all the top teams do that. What has caused us to fall short year after year is the failure to show consistent results against the 'lesser' teams. The odd glitch is not important - all top sides throw an occasionaly wobbler and lose to someone that on paper they should have trashed. However, we are failing to do this time and again and this has been going on for years. And the common obvious factor to me is failing to finish. We do fancy footwork and piss around with the ball with great impressive displays sometimes, but when it comes to the crunch, i.e. putting the ball in the net, we are just not doing it. And sadly, the league is based on points and that means scoring more goals than the other team.

Which is what I said in the previous post. Wenger seems to be doing nothing about this situation and shows no sign of doing it. For that reason, I'm out.
25-01-2012, 11:18 AM
Fats

Regarding the possible managerial swap between Wenger and Maureen. Out of the 2 managers who do you think would be more succesful in a seasons time if they did swap?
25-01-2012, 11:20 AM
Kano

wenger. as maureen wouldn't have any money to spend.
25-01-2012, 11:22 AM
Coney

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Originally Posted by Fats

Regarding the possible managerial swap between Wenger and Maureen. Out of the 2 managers who do you think would be more succesful in a seasons time if they did swap?

It sickens me to say this, but I think Moronio would be more brutal with who stays/plays and who goes. He would clean out any negative vibes in the dressing room. Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind.
25-01-2012, 11:24 AM
Olivier's xmas twist

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Originally Posted by MaxPeck

I'm coming round to that thinking. Wenger is still a top manager and would be a success at other clubs. However, I think that the situation we have is now tired and will not be revitalised until the manager is replaced. What should have happened (and was promised) this summer does not seem to taking place - the fact we have not gone out at the start of this window to buy the striker/goalscorer we desparately need says it all, I think. There was a case for waiting during August to see how the Nasri/Cesc thing would pan out, but the results to the end of December made it clear that we need to get a finisher to assist RvP with the workload. That being the case, given we supposedly have the money, we should have bought a significant finisher in the first week and had that done and dusted.

I don't mind so much about the fullback situation - that we have 4 injured at once is unlucky and once they recover, we should be broadly OK. The lack of firepower up front which has been the case for years is what gets me. Bendtner, Chamakh and Walcott continue(d) to fail year after year but nothing is done to sling them out and try someone else. We need strikers with a natural confidence and that is not something you can do in training. I am coming to the conclusion that in terms of regular goalscoring, you've either got it or you haven't. And we need to buy a player - well, two would be better - who have got it. And the attacking midfielders are the same situation. Arshavin, Rosicy might have had it but they certainly show no sign of it now, so time to get rid and replace.

If people like 'arry can get players that are confident in front of goal, what the hell are we doing?

This, Wenger deffo needs a change because the situation he is not in right now is not healthy. Im not saying he be a sucess in madrid but i think it wouldbe good for him to go there and play his way of footie too.

And with madrid you know how their board work, so AW would have to do well or he'd be out. right now at Arsenal he is stale and we need freshness not a man with ideas that don't work anymoreor have not for years.

like GB said we may not get any better with someone new but its worth a try tbh and if were in the Europa i don't see the harm tbh.
25-01-2012, 11:25 AM
Olivier's xmas twist

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Originally Posted by Fats

Regarding the possible managerial swap between Wenger and Maureen. Out of the 2 managers who do you think would be more succesful in a seasons time if they did swap?

Wenger he already has a good team there would not need to do much tweeking where as JM would need to do alot and imo evenif he came it be a while before we won anything under him while this board are still in place.
25-01-2012, 11:26 AM
Fats

Exactly. I know people would be against Maureen but he would sort this club out. He wouldnt stand for the crap that we have had to put up with.

Time has come for a huge clear out of average players. The team would be more organized and play better football.

From a fans point of view I cannot see any problems with his appointment.

The board however never accept him and would never go for him as boss we know that for sure.
25-01-2012, 11:27 AM
Fats

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Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner

Wenger he already has a good team there would not need to do much tweeking where as JM would need to do alot and imo evenif he came it be a while before we won anything under him while this board are still in place.

Wenger would fail in madrid and be sacked within a season
25-01-2012, 11:31 AM
Coney

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Originally Posted by Fats

Wenger would fail in madrid and be sacked within a season

Whether true or not, for us, that would be irrelevant.

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