The fallacy of the long term manager

I don't even remember it.
Well, I do remember that everyone posted SHUT UP ELCHE for a while, I can't begin to remember why.
I'm sure it was funny at the time though.

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Originally Posted by Kano

That's the bugger. Oh and Captain Reynolds, I know you miss him in particular.

Probably still running that hugely successful BigFourForum or something.

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Captain Cockwash :lol: I thought he was still on here...

:lol: that was it. I thought it was Nine still knocking about under a different name. Hmmm.

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Originally Posted by LDG

A couple of seasons back, when we won the first FA Cup. I thought that was a good time for him to go out on a high, and maintain the respect that he deserves for his services to the club.

There is a difference between me thinking he's a "cunt", and what I think is best for the club, however.

I still hold no ill will toward him. I just think it's time for something new, especially as the same mistakes keep getting made. I would like nothing more than for him to prove me wrong and win us the title. I would put my hands up, say I got it wrong, and celebrate it. Will that happen? Unlikely, because I just think we'll make the same mistakes again....it might be next week, it might be after an eight game winning streak, but my money is on us blowing it, when we have it in our hands to win the thing. All previous evidence points to that being the likely outcome....

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Well said. But also I think that often it's sheer frustration that makes some of the feelings about Wenger boil over - even from those (majority) Gooners who actually wish him well at heart. It's the feeling that but for addressing what seem like basic errors he could have recaptured the success he had with us at the start.

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Originally Posted by PGFC

Captain Cockwash :lol: I thought he was still on here...

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I think he pops back now and again, but not so much now Utd are shite.

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Originally Posted by Letters

I don't even remember it.
Well, I do remember that everyone posted SHUT UP ELCHE for a while, I can't begin to remember why.
I'm sure it was funny at the time though.

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Zimm's Downfall :bow:

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Originally Posted by Douglas Reynholm

I'll never top that.

Fucking hell, that was 6 years ago.

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There was some guy called Step or Steve or something, was okay I think...vaguely remember him or her...

I remember some moran called IT. All he ever did was buy you beer and edit your posts into something juvenile and unfunny.

Now there was a twat of truly epic proportions.


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Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw

I remember some stud called IT. All he ever did was buy you beer and edit your posts into something juvenile and funny.

Now there was a hero of truly epic proportions.


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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

I think it was the back end of 10/11 that I really felt Wenger was losing it and I personally thought it would be best to make a change. We lost the League Cup final and bombed out of the title race only winning something like 2 of our last 10 games. That summer we lost Fabregas and Nasri and started the season with a depleted squad and sunk to an all time low with the 8-2 loss. Then we went on that mad trolley dash and I thought Wenger didn't really have a grasp of things anymore.

I love the bloke and I would happily feast on humble pie should we win the league again under him. I don't see it but I live in hope.

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For me, it was the 08/09 season where Denilson played 1000 games for us. There was a game that season where our midfield 4 against Stoke was Diaby Fabregas Denilson and Song. That pretty much had me give up on Wenger having much clue about tactics and formations (of that of a world class manager). Of course, this was a culmination of many horrible decisions but that was the game and the season where I knew that we will not be much of a 'world force' with Wenger at the helm.