Middle East consortium 'to bid for Arsenal'

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Originally Posted by Ralpheroo72

The Journo point was the 'caught up in the moment' of following the team. It was how I loved buying every paper on Sunday, so that I could re-live the moment. I miss that, thats all I am saying.

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Fair enough.

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Originally Posted by Joker

People who criticise City and Chelsea etc should realise that under the current arrangements it is impossible for one of the "lesser" clubs to actually break into the elite of football without some serious external investment. The way the league is structured and the rewards distributed (e.g. with UCL revenue) means that those at the top will always remain at the top. You can tell their supporters that they should accept their lot but they can easily counter that by saying we support a club that benefit from the current arrangement which is why we have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo. I'm not denying that Chelsea and City supporters' opposition to FFP is motivated by self interest, but so is Gazidis' support for it. We stand to benefit from any policy that is designed to kick the ladder away from small/medium sized clubs aspiring to reach the top.

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Your argument is like the guy with a broken watch who suggests it can be mended by breaking everyone else's watches. You don't counter the likes of city and the chavs by encouraging more of that shit. You force these anti-competitive cheats to play by the rules. Or at least introduce rules that are in line with planet earth and the conditions faced by any other business. In fact this is a bit like the capitalism versus corporatism argument. To promote capitalism (which in itself is not evil) you must address the the cancer of corporatism. Indeed corporations were initially social endeavours with a limited remit and lifespan before they were hopelessly corrupted. Just as football was a sport before the rapists arrived.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

You are suggesting the fans get with the program and sell their morals, pride and passion for the cheap thrill of artificial success, all at the expense of sport and competition. Some fans will sign up, others won't. Besides, there is no consortium willing to pay three times the odds to buy the club. There may be a fat Russian gangster who needs a money laundering and drug smuggling front but we already know about him and the current leech won't let him in.

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I am suggesting Arsenal get with the times before they get left behind.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

Your argument is like the guy with a broken watch who suggests it can be mended by breaking everyone else's watches. You don't counter the likes of city and the chavs by encouraging more of that shit. You force these anti-competitive cheats to play by the rules. Or at least introduce rules that are in line with planet earth and the conditions faced by any other business. In fact this is a bit like the capitalism versus corporatism argument. To promote capitalism (which in itself is not evil) you must address the the cancer of corporatism. Indeed corporations were initially social endeavours with a limited remit and lifespan before they were hopelessly corrupted. Just as football was a sport before the rapists arrived.

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Originally Posted by Synti Claus

Of course not. I want some trophies. Just some shiny, huge trophies. Who cares how they come? I just need them. You see, I've had a failure of a life and I absolutely need to piggyback on the success of my favourite sports team to compensate for that.

I probably won't celebrate it because I won't have any interest left. I'm just struggling to see the point of it. Even if we lose today, I doubt I'll care much. Watching more out of habit than any real enthusiasm. It's a pretty poor game at the top level but I'm struggling to find a sport to replace the void tbh. Need suggestions.

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If you don't care about losing today then you really are out of the game. This one means something. It has nothing to do with trophies and everything to do with the healthy rivalries that make us what we are. And the memories that connect us. The sort of rivalries that are being squashed by ****s who want to make the whole world the same (as in shit). Football is still there, just drop down a few leagues and watch it for the fun of it.

NLD day and here we are bickering over a bullshit article which clearly was meant to unsettle everything Arsenal.

The scum :bow:

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Originally Posted by Cripps

I am suggesting Arsenal get with the times before they get left behind.

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The "times" are 1% or the rich trying to impoverish the already poor. It's pretty hard to get with it when the 1% are so protective. I think your model involves getting rid of all bar the top 10 clubs who can then engage in a heavily sponsored wankfest. Do we want that? Maybe you do, in which case

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Originally Posted by GB.

No you don't.

You can call it quits and invest your time in something you still give two fucks about.

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Or you can stick a video of Pele on and then go out and have a kickaround with the kids. Football still exists but it's buried under all the shit. Football hasn't changed and it's still accessible to anyone. That thing, with all the flashing lights and whooping idiots isn't football it's just a way for socially dead pricks to hoover up more cash. When they have it all they'll piss off to something else and football will be back on the street where it grew up. Then rinse and repeat but at least the fun will be back for a few decades.

Club have said "it's all bullshit".

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Why not just boycott matches now if football if you've lost the passion for the game?

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Love it or leave it? Vietnam war protesters were given the same option by the "patriots" who loved their country blindly (no matter how much brown people got bombed). Nobody has lost a passion for the game. The passion has been removed from the game. Different thing.