Who Will Win The League - 2

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Originally Posted by Letters

I don't think our squad is in dire shape though. I agree about our ownership. Replacing Wenger will solve some problems but not all of them.
And yes, Giroud isn't good enough to win us a title. The hope this year is that Sanchez and Ozil would chip in. Ramsey would find his shooting boots and Walcott would get fit and some consistency.
Alas it was not to be.
But 'by design' implies Wenger deliberately leaves us short and with no chance of the title, I can't see any reason why he'd do that.

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Everybody knows that Giroud isn't good enough for a title winning side, the solution, buy someone who is good enough.

The money is there now Letters, Wenger had no excuses last summer, he was the only Manager of any top 4 club in Europe to not buy an outfield player, just think about it and tell me that it is acceptable?

We shouldn't be relying on if's and but's if we have the resources to improve the team, it's absolutely ridiculous!

Maybe my choice of word wasn't correct but my definition of 'by design' is that he leaves the squad the way it is because he believes in his options.

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Originally Posted by Letters

I don't think our squad is in dire shape though. I agree about our ownership. Replacing Wenger will solve some problems but not all of them.
And yes, Giroud isn't good enough to win us a title. The hope this year is that Sanchez and Ozil would chip in. Ramsey would find his shooting boots and Walcott would get fit and some consistency.
Alas it was not to be.
But 'by design' implies Wenger deliberately leaves us short and with no chance of the title, I can't see any reason why he'd do that.

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Mentally the squad is rock bottom. Technically I'd agree, we are close to having a very good collection of players from which to build a team. It's that "building a team" bit we are a million miles away from. A new manager will be able to do a lot fairly quickly, focus on the basics, start building a team from the decent components we have, further building on that to improve the mentality. The comes the potential brick wall. A new manager will have his own ideas and vision for the types of player he'll want to move that team and squad on.

Wenger is very deliberate about his non-action in the transfer windows. It stems from his delusions. He sees mediocre players as having the potential to become world beaters in a short space of time. Nobody else sees it. When the inevitable unfolds and we are left with a mediocre player who has not delivered, Wenger still doesn't see it. His actions are deliberate, not to try to harm the team but because he is delusional and ultimately incompetent.

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Originally Posted by Letters

I don't think our squad is in dire shape though. I agree about our ownership. Replacing Wenger will solve some problems but not all of them.
And yes, Giroud isn't good enough to win us a title. The hope this year is that Sanchez and Ozil would chip in. Ramsey would find his shooting boots and Walcott would get fit and some consistency.
Alas it was not to be.
But 'by design' implies Wenger deliberately leaves us short and with no chance of the title, I can't see any reason why he'd do that.

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I have to agree. We do actually have a pretty decent squad, and with a manager who knows what he is doing and knows how best to utilise the players would see them performing much better than they currently are.

Get them toughened up, quicker and stop the slow turgid shit, chuck in Ibra or Cavani or such like - would see us winning the league at a canter this season.

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Originally Posted by selassie

Everybody knows that Giroud isn't good enough for a title winning side, the solution, buy someone who is good enough.

The money is there now Letters, Wenger had no excuses last summer, he was the only Manager of any top 4 club in Europe to not buy an outfield player, just think about it and tell me that it is acceptable?

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Well, given how the season is turning out...no, it isn't acceptable. That's why I'm now in the Wenger Out camp. I still think it was reasonable to have some hope and see how the season turned out but I agree, the money is there, he's used some of it - Ozil, Sanchez and Cech were good signings - but we don't have enough up front, it's cost us a chance of the title and that's why he should go.
That doesn't mean everything he did in the years before the new financial deals was an abject failure, but he should now be judged by different standards and while the FA Cups were nice we needed to push on and we haven't.

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Originally Posted by Letters

If 'by design' you mean he thinks we should be good enough then maybe that's so (and maybe he's right, when we lose to teams like Watford and Swansea it's not because our players aren't good enough).
I thought was the implication was he knows we're not good enough but deliberately doesn't try and address that. I'm not sure why he'd do that.
He might not be able to, he might have too much confidence in the players, but I doubt he's deliberately leaving us short because he hates us all or something!

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It's not might, he does and he has no reason to. How many seasons does it take? It goes back to what Selassie originally said.

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Originally Posted by Letters

Well, given how the season is turning out...no, it isn't acceptable. That's why I'm now in the Wenger Out camp. I still think it was reasonable to have some hope and see how the season turned out but I agree, the money is there, he's used some of it - Ozil, Sanchez and Cech were good signings - but we don't have enough up front, it's cost us a chance of the title and that's why he should go.
That doesn't mean everything he did in the years before the new financial deals was an abject failure, but he should now be judged by different standards and while the FA Cups were nice we needed to push on and we haven't.

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It may not have been abject failure but it was poor squad management. For me it goes beyond him being judged on winning the league or whatever, if he at least appeared to be ambitious I think he would have a lot more backing, leaving us short just leaves him exposed to the backlash of fan uproar he is getting now.

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Originally Posted by selassie

It may not have been abject failure but it was poor squad management. For me it goes beyond him being judged on winning the league or whatever, if he at least appeared to be ambitious I think he would have a lot more backing, leaving us short just leaves him exposed to the backlash of fan uproar he is getting now.

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:gp: Going into the season depending on Giroud again was just stupid. If he wasn't going to sign anyone new we should have least made a commitment to keep playing Walcott up front or Sanchez. Play a different sort of striker up top instead of a target man because we already know the limitations when playing with Giroud. He had a very good run in the squad but when the goals started to dry up he should have been swapped out immediately because we've already seen what he's like when in a funk.

I still do not understand why we cannot play two upfront. While I do not rate Theo much, I think both him and Giroud will greatly help each other playing up front. I do not understand statements that say that 4-3-3/4-5-1 is the only playing system because 'thats what every team does' or that 'teams will just crowd the midfield'. If crowding the midfield can nullify good co-ordination and understanding of the opposition, many teams would successfully employ it. I am not saying that we only focus on a 4-4-2. Learn to play according to the situation. If we are at home playing a lesser team, put some runners on the wings and two strikers attacking the ball. Its just baffling how we are so absolutely clueless in games which do not go our way.

This is one of the most important reasons I have wanted Wenger gone since 2009. I hear people constantly talk about how he doesnt spend money and how finances were tight etc etc. Our squad this season, our squad in 07/08 and our squad 2 seasons back were well placed to challenge for the title. What didnt happen every single time is mental preparation for the opposition and proper tactics. We were always second best (or should I say 4th best) in terms of preparation for the big games. Players rarely seemed motivated for some games and it seemed more like a training session rather than a game we needed 3 points. I am sorry to say that throwing money at a problem like this has never helped nor will it ever help. I have said this before and I'll say it for the hundredth time again... you give Wenger Messi and Ronaldo in their prime, and he'll find a way to fuck it up. The problem is very simple and that problem is Wenger.

Saying something 100 times doesn't make it true. We had Bergkamp and Henry in their prime and a strong captain and we won titles.
Wenger has never been a great motivator, he needs a strong captain to help him and we haven't had one since Vieira.

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Originally Posted by Letters

Saying something 100 times doesn't make it true. We had Bergkamp and Henry in their prime and a strong captain and we won titles.
Wenger has never been a great motivator, he needs a strong captain to help him and we haven't had one since Vieira.

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It doesnt make it untrue either. We have Ozil and Sanchez in their primes but we are still losing the title to Leicester city and Spurs. :haha:

I agree about the strong captain part 100%. Since Wenger cannot motivate his own wife to undress on their first night, a strong captain would have made a world of difference. But then again, why would the emperor want someone who may stand up against him? As soon as he got Vieira and other senior players out of the door, he molded the players into a bunch of mentally weak pricks. Any sign of pressure and you are sure that they will find new innovative ways to fail. Spitting image of the manager in the last decade tbh..