Wenger Out?

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

we will never know what will happen until it actually does, so we can sit on our hands scared of what may happen or be bold enough to test the waters - which has to happen at some point anyway.

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Well sure. I guess the issue is what do we have to lose. If we were playing crap football and mid-table then I'd say not much. Right now (and I appreciate that this has not been so all season) we're playing well, showing some fight and seem to be making some progress. Whether that continues remains to be seen.

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Originally Posted by Ach

GW in being fickle shocker

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As fickle as football fans are I don't think anyone has gone from "Wenger is a bumbling idiot" to "Wenger's the greatest genius in football history" because of a few good results. The poll is still quite mixed, far more so than it would have been a couple of years ago when most still backed Wenger. People's mood has shifted quite a lot this season as we've had ups and downs.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Jeez have you been drinking?

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:lol:

Are you pissed again ™

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Originally Posted by Letters

He was certainly sacked after he got them finishing 5th twice in a tow (their best PL finish to that point).
The season after he sacked him they finished 11th.

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Maybe they're just masochists. I guess that's why they become spud supporters in the first place.



[Sadist and a masochist walking down the street. Masochist says to the sadist "Hit me". And the sadist says "No".)

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Originally Posted by Letters

As fickle as football fans are I don't think anyone has gone from "Wenger is a bumbling idiot" to "Wenger's the greatest genius in football history" because of a few good results. The poll is still quite mixed, far more so than it would have been a couple of years ago when most still backed Wenger. People's mood has shifted quite a lot this season as we've had ups and downs.

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What id like to know is who from the thread in the link below has changed their mind and why

http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/sh...t=1206&page=24

Didn't change mine.

Neither did i.

But a few wins has clearly made some people change their mind.

Likewise there might be some who said no last time and want him out now. Doubt it but in the interest of fairness, i thought id put it in. These posters are also more than welcome to explain why they have changed their mind

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

he can achieve the minimum expected of the club, he has done for a while now but the potential is much larger. how many years do you keep saying ‘one more year’. even if was winning everything in sight, at some point he would have to leave (fergie the perfect example) and the club has to look for a manager that can sustain that level.

the youth project, wages etc still do not take away from the fact that wenger makes repeated mistakes on the pitch – something that has nothing to do with anything off the field. there is a chance that another manager may not perform as well but it is just as likely that they would perform as well and perhaps better.

how long can a top club remain just doing the same thing year on year and how many times does the team under wenger have to repeat the same cycle before something new is tried? of course i am talking purely from a football perspective and the off field politics may well impact on the manager situation but the only concrete evidence we have is what we actually see on the pitch and it is clear after another collapse in January that it’s a cycle that can’t be broken under wenger anymore. sad but true.

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Another question to consider is whether Wenger is holding Arsenal back or not . We can't speculate on what is behind closed doors as that is between Arsene and his Directors . Was Arsenal better off before the Wenger era ? Will Arsenal necessarily be much better if Wenger step down ? Will the new manager garantie succes and more achievement more than Wenger ? If we can get positive answers to all these issues , then yes sack Wenger .But it would be regrettable to take a hasty decision which will not work and make Arsenal a middle table team .

I did originally say it was time for him to go because of his failure to buy a striker in January, which gave the impression that the policy was not changing. I wanted positive signs of buying a known striker and perhaps others in the summer with a clearout of the dross. I don't know if it is pressure from RvP indicating that unless something happens in the transfer market, he might not sign, but Podolski looks to be happening and Wenger appears to have said there would be some departures - can't remember the exact quote but it was made a few weeks back - funny thing is that since then, the team has got off it's ass and fought. Surely no connection there? ... ... ... :unsure:

That is why my vote has changed. However, if nothing happens in the summer, then I will feel deceived. Again.

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Originally Posted by Ach

Neither did i.

But a few wins has clearly made some people change their mind.

Likewise there might be some who said no last time and want him out now. Doubt it but in the interest of fairness, i thought id put it in. These posters are also more than welcome to explain why they have changed their mind

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So you're asking for people on the internet to be honest and open, admit that they may have been wrong??

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