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There can't be any conclusive proof on something like this, but Dein's insights on Wenger and statements on the money situation have a lot more weight than yours or mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Özim
And if you're going to just flat out accuse him of lying so you can continue to believe what you've already decided to be true then fine, there's no real point in discussing it further.
It's easy to prove yourself right if you ignore anything which contradicts what you've already decided.
I know. That's on record and when Dein was at the club. I'm talking about since Dein's departure. If they still meet and talk after every game then what's the conversation about? Why hasn't Dein set him straight about transfers and spending?Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
Well I thought the implication of what I said was clear enough. That he probably thinks if he couldn't convince him to spend money when he was involved in the club, what chance now that he's not.
Plus I think people who go on about David Dein are crying for the moon. I also would be interested to see what the spending will be like under a new manager, because i remember well enough that George Graham had to pry money away from Peter Hill Wood's clenched fist (in hindsight the smart move on Hill Wood's part).
I don’t know what you know about Dein but reports say he was the one that would assure Wenger it’s ok to spend during the Highbury days. We were never big spenders and it’s reported that Wenger would always be cautious but Dein was the one that would assure him to go for the deal. That’s why it worked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
But that's the point, we didn't go for the players.....that's what Dein was saying that he used to try and persuade Wenger to go for signings that he needed but more often than not Wenger would prevaricate and end up doing nothing.
This is what i mean by crying for the moon, when Dein was still at the club, the signings that might have cost the club more just didn't happen. Yes there were implications of cost in regards to moving to the stadium, but also Wenger himself used to worry and worry about making big signings.
Signings cant and wont help Wenger.
This man is as clueless as it gets regarding tactics and motivation. If it came down to it, I am sure he cannot motivate a pack of hungry lions to go for a hunt..
2nd half of the season table. :lol:
http://i.imgur.com/l7timm9.jpg
Wasn't it Dein who came out with the can't have a world class stadium without a world class team in it either? Now I think the guy was good for Arsenal as he had lots of contacts and wanted bigger things for the club but I think he'll say whatever he thinks he should say rather than the gospel truth (if he said there was plenty of money it would make Wenger look like a fool and he's great friends with him so he's hardly going to say that) and as far as Wenger being in a bad mood I'm sure he was some of the time back in the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Letters
Besides the board and the guy's at the top are famed for now being entirely honest about things, it's part and parcel of being in that position apparently.
Incidentally I'm not accusing him of lying, I just think it's clear that the guys at the top know what they should and shouldn't say, they're well versed in this, well some of them anyway and Dein was one of the smarter ones for sure.
That's hard to look at, i am feeling dizzy....i think i might collapseQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
If you showed Wenger that he'd find an excuse, like bad decisions, injuries, too many games etc etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Wenger is a great one for stats except the ones that really matter.