Match Reaction v Spurs

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Originally Posted by LDG

The hardest thing to take about this, and the ****s crowing down the road, is that we've done this to ourselves.

Sort it the fuck out Arsenal. For fucks sake.

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They're a bigger joke than us - and delighted with the fact. We chase the 4th Place Trophy, they chase the Small Segment of London Cup.

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Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga

Vertonghen was brilliant, defended very well and also got forward well.

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He wasn't brilliant - he was ordinary. So was Dawson. That's how ordinary defenders play in an organised system. You could have taken Merts and TV and after a year training with a team that organises the defending they'd be ordinary too. You could take the two spuds and stick them in our team and after a year they'd be a laughing stock. We don't defend. We are bigger than that.

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Originally Posted by BOBN

jenkinson was shyt. You guys are simple as fook, see someone bombing down the flank putting in nothing balls and think thats a sign of quality. On both goals he could have applied pressure to the ball-carrier but I guess he didnt want to.

If theres a worse right back in the league ive yet to see him.

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You're defeating your own argument. When quality declines across the entire team as you have said (agreed) you look for other things to compensate. Players who can at least pass a ball, put a cross in, are prepared to run for 90 minutes, players who give a fuck. That's why he's liked. Nobody is pretending he's a throwback to the great Milan defenders. But he's got the balls so many of our other players lack so he gets a pass on whatever defensive mistakes he makes because, after all, nobody in our team can defend so why single him out? At least he gives us something a lazy, self absorbed **** like Walcott can't or won't offer. Jenks is not a thief, turning up to put the minimum in and pocket the cash. Admire him for that at least because we have precious little else to admire at the moment.

So a young kid on whose shoulders the fortunes of a billion quid club has been pinned has a bad day at the office and now it's time to slaughter him? If Wilshere isn't Messi then add every other player in the world to that list of failure (except for Bale who is better than Messi). Wilshere gets hyped by the press because he's English and we've had to put up with overhyped shit like Lampard and Gerrard for years - players who fail at every significant hurdle on the International stage. Believe the hype if you want but don't slaughter the kid because a game of such huge importance got to him.

He's also stepped on a pitch with Barcelona and outplayed the best in the business, again no reason for the hype but don't ignore it either. The kid has huge talent and huge potential and anyone who disputes that has an agenda. Can he carry the likes of Walcott, Giroud, Ramsey and Diaby every game? Why would we expect him to? Nobody could do that, not even Messi. Stick Messi in this Arsenal team and he'd have his off days too, because the shit we have could drag anyone down.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

He wasn't brilliant - he was ordinary. So was Dawson. That's how ordinary defenders play in an organised system. You could have taken Merts and TV and after a year training with a team that organises the defending they'd be ordinary too. You could take the two spuds and stick them in our team and after a year they'd be a laughing stock. We don't defend. We are bigger than that.

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Innit.

Our famous back 5 wasn't full of world class players (Dixon only got 22 caps for England, Winterburn only got 2, Bould only got 2.)
It was just a very well drilled unit.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

So a young kid on whose shoulders the fortunes of a billion quid club has been pinned has a bad day at the office and now it's time to slaughter him? If Wilshere isn't Messi then add every other player in the world to that list of failure (except for Bale who is better than Messi). Wilshere gets hyped by the press because he's English and we've had to put up with overhyped shit like Lampard and Gerrard for years - players who fail at every significant hurdle on the International stage. Believe the hype if you want but don't slaughter the kid because a game of such huge importance got to him.

He's also stepped on a pitch with Barcelona and outplayed the best in the business, again no reason for the hype but don't ignore it either. The kid has huge talent and huge potential and anyone who disputes that has an agenda. Can he carry the likes of Walcott, Giroud, Ramsey and Diaby every game? Why would we expect him to? Nobody could do that, not even Messi. Stick Messi in this Arsenal team and he'd have his off days too, because the shit we have could drag anyone down.

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It's not slaughter. He had a bad game and it would be wrong to overlook it when everyone else gets a kick up the backside. Ramsey wasn't even that bad yesterday (when in the middle) and he's getting undue stick for this game. I don't think he slowed down the play yesterday. Wilshere was the one missing runs and delaying the pass. Can't really make exceptions when it's derby day.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

He wasn't brilliant - he was ordinary. So was Dawson. That's how ordinary defenders play in an organised system. You could have taken Merts and TV and after a year training with a team that organises the defending they'd be ordinary too. You could take the two spuds and stick them in our team and after a year they'd be a laughing stock. We don't defend. We are bigger than that.

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Giroud is an easy striker to mark as well. You're more likely to be surprised by a dodgy first touch over anything else he's offering.

"We must fight now...."

Oh fuck off.

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Originally Posted by LDG

"We must fight now...."

Oh fuck off.

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I think you are overlooking the fact our energy levels were superb yesterday.

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Originally Posted by LDG

"We must fight now...."

Oh fuck off.

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Empty words and tiresome.

His Morpheus/Obi Wan approach to coaching is really pissing me off. There is more to football than spirit, determination, character, mental strength and the rest of the New Age nonsense he repeats game after game. He needs to get a strategy together and apply it to this team. We need organising. No more bollocks about not focusing on our opponents and allowing our players to express themselves on the pitch. We need this team drilled and organised. They need to know how to function as a unit on the pitch. I have no doubt that these guys want to win and are tired of being humiliated but they’re not going to get better without proper guidance and coaching.

We have been fighting and showing great spirit all season. It's got us nowhere of course, but that's what we've been doing. Apparently.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Empty words and tiresome.

His Morpheus/Obi Wan approach to coaching is really pissing me off. There is more to football than spirit, determination, character, mental strength and the rest of the New Age nonsense he repeats game after game. He needs to get a strategy together and apply it to this team. We need organising. No more bollocks about not focusing on our opponents and allowing our players to express themselves on the pitch. We need this team drilled and organised. They need to know how to function as a unit on the pitch. I have no doubt that these guys want to win and are tired of being humiliated but they’re not going to get better without proper guidance and coaching.

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Yup.

Back to basics for the last ten games. We have enough quality in the ranks to get a good haul of points. But lets be hard to beat first.

Meh, who am I kidding. We all know what's coming anyway :(

It is very difficult to know how we lose this match. We dominated but lack little bit perhaps composure in the final third. Of course with defending, I did not see it, I will have to look again.

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Originally Posted by LDG

Yup.

Back to basics for the last ten games. We have enough quality in the ranks to get a good haul of points. But lets be hard to beat first.

Meh, who am I kidding. We all know what's coming anyway :(

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Back to basics. :lol:

I'm sure that's been the tagline at this point for the past 4 years when we've bombed out of everything.

There's not much to say anymore, Wenger has fully morphed into Wenget and there's no way back.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

It is very difficult to know how we lose this match. We dominated but lack little bit perhaps composure in the final third. Of course with defending, I did not see it, I will have to look again.

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Not sure I'd call pass, pass, pass dominate.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

He wasn't brilliant - he was ordinary. So was Dawson. That's how ordinary defenders play in an organised system. You could have taken Merts and TV and after a year training with a team that organises the defending they'd be ordinary too. You could take the two spuds and stick them in our team and after a year they'd be a laughing stock. We don't defend. We are bigger than that.

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Sorry I don't agree, he came forward with real purpose and also made last ditch tackle a number of time, they even singled him out during the match. He's a quality player and the kind of player we should have been after, it's not just the system that's flawed it's the quality of players we have as well.

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Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga

Sorry I don't agree, he came forward with real purpose and also made last ditch tackle a number of time, they even singled him out during the match. He's a quality player and the kind of player we should have been after, it's not just the system that's flawed it's the quality of players we have as well.

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we were after him - unfortunately wenger wanted him as a DM rather than a CB and he wasn't interested.

luckily we had diaby to step in.

This guy might be the answer to our troubles, he was once before and now we're looking for defenders might be worth a punt:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...laws-flat.html

Jeffers. :lol:

The first sign Wenget lived within.

Whatever happened to the search for a "fox in the box" anyway, it's not been mentioned for many years.

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Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga

Whatever happened to the search for a "fox in the box" anyway, it's not been mentioned for many years.

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Too busy trying to find the ultimate "twat at the back" I think.

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Originally Posted by LDG

Too busy trying to find the ultimate "twat at the back" I think.

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which should be every self respecting mans mission in life.

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Originally Posted by LDG

Too busy trying to find the ultimate "twat at the back" I think.

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Bitch on the pitch.

We have 11

Jeffers :lol:

The sad thing is he would walk in to this Arsenal 11

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Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz

which should be every self respecting mans mission in life.

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:haha:

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Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga

Whatever happened to the search for a "fox in the box" anyway, it's not been mentioned for many years.

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We settled for a chicken instead.

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

It is very difficult to know how we lose this match. We dominated but lack little bit perhaps composure in the final third. Of course with defending, I did not see it, I will have to look again.

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This has been almost every game this season, even in games we win.

The midfield is almost there(needs to replace Arteta, Diaby, Ramsey) for most part. But our strike core , and defenders are poo.


We got away with suspect defending in past seasons, because we had a midfield that could dominate any team not name Barca, and we had people who score. Don't have that anymore.

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Originally Posted by LDG

Too busy trying to find the ultimate "twat at the back" I think.

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:haha:

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FOOTBALL
Police confirm they have launched an investigation after an Arsenal supporter threw a banana at Gareth Bale during Sunday's north London derby at White Hart Lane.

A Met Police spokesperson said: "Police are investigating after a banana was thrown on to the pitch from the away section of supporters during the Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal match at White Hart Lane on Sunday, March 3. There have been no arrests. Enquiries continue to try to identify the suspect."

Arsenal have vowed to ban the culprit for life.

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He's probably hoping he is caught so he's banned. Lucky ****

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Originally Posted by Cripps

He's probably hoping he is caught so he's banned. Lucky ****

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Wonder what the charges will be?

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Originally Posted by BoringBoringArsenal

Wonder what the charged will be?

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No feeding the animals in the zoo charge

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Originally Posted by LDG

Too busy trying to find the ultimate "twat at the back" I think.

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What about the "**** up front", plenty of those to chose from as well.

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Originally Posted by BoringBoringArsenal

Wonder what the charged will be?

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ape-sault and battery?
mon(k)ey laundering?
hitting a **** with a banana?

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Originally Posted by Gooner23

What about the "**** up front", plenty of those to chose from as well.

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Or the wanker in the centre.

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Originally Posted by Marc Overmars

Or the wanker in the centre.

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It's got to rhyme :angry:

#wonkeydonkey

The last syllable does tbf.

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Originally Posted by Cripps

He's probably hoping he is caught so he's banned. Lucky ****

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Looney bin. This is distracting the police from their primary roles, which are revenue generation for the government and victimising victims. Assault with a deadly banana, what will they think of next? Something insane like arresting white collar criminals or senior paedophiles (just kidding).

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Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn

You're defeating your own argument. When quality declines across the entire team as you have said (agreed) you look for other things to compensate. Players who can at least pass a ball, put a cross in, are prepared to run for 90 minutes, players who give a fuck. That's why he's liked. Nobody is pretending he's a throwback to the great Milan defenders. But he's got the balls so many of our other players lack so he gets a pass on whatever defensive mistakes he makes because, after all, nobody in our team can defend so why single him out? At least he gives us something a lazy, self absorbed **** like Walcott can't or won't offer. Jenks is not a thief, turning up to put the minimum in and pocket the cash. Admire him for that at least because we have precious little else to admire at the moment.

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I dont see jenkinson as a particularly hard worker.

"Effort" is just the phantom stick football fans use to prop up the players they like and beat the players they dont, and as its quite hard to measure they get away with it. Its actually cowardly, just say you have a crush on jenkinson for whatever reason and that you dont like walcott. There is zero evidence to suggest jenkinson outworks others but I am confident no other premiership side would touch he as he is technically inept.

Notice how even when he is shyt, wilshere is "the only one trying". Did he work any harder than monreal or arteta yesterday or any other day? People see what they wanna see.

blancmange/10

I think the only surprising thing for me yesterday was Wilshere playing so poorly. Everything else went as expected.