Match Reaction v Spurs

[Niall_Quinn]

The hardest thing to take about this, and the ****s crowing down the road, is that we've done this to ourselves.

Sort it the fuck out Arsenal. For fucks sake.

They're a bigger joke than us - and delighted with the fact. We chase the 4th Place Trophy, they chase the Small Segment of London Cup.

[Niall_Quinn]

Vertonghen was brilliant, defended very well and also got forward well.

He wasn't brilliant - he was ordinary. So was Dawson. That's how ordinary defenders play in an organised system. You could have taken Merts and TV and after a year training with a team that organises the defending they'd be ordinary too. You could take the two spuds and stick them in our team and after a year they'd be a laughing stock. We don't defend. We are bigger than that.

[Niall_Quinn]

jenkinson was shyt. You guys are simple as fook, see someone bombing down the flank putting in nothing balls and think thats a sign of quality. On both goals he could have applied pressure to the ball-carrier but I guess he didnt want to.

If theres a worse right back in the league ive yet to see him.

You're defeating your own argument. When quality declines across the entire team as you have said (agreed) you look for other things to compensate. Players who can at least pass a ball, put a cross in, are prepared to run for 90 minutes, players who give a fuck. That's why he's liked. Nobody is pretending he's a throwback to the great Milan defenders. But he's got the balls so many of our other players lack so he gets a pass on whatever defensive mistakes he makes because, after all, nobody in our team can defend so why single him out? At least he gives us something a lazy, self absorbed **** like Walcott can't or won't offer. Jenks is not a thief, turning up to put the minimum in and pocket the cash. Admire him for that at least because we have precious little else to admire at the moment.

[Niall_Quinn]

So a young kid on whose shoulders the fortunes of a billion quid club has been pinned has a bad day at the office and now it's time to slaughter him? If Wilshere isn't Messi then add every other player in the world to that list of failure (except for Bale who is better than Messi). Wilshere gets hyped by the press because he's English and we've had to put up with overhyped shit like Lampard and Gerrard for years - players who fail at every significant hurdle on the International stage. Believe the hype if you want but don't slaughter the kid because a game of such huge importance got to him.

He's also stepped on a pitch with Barcelona and outplayed the best in the business, again no reason for the hype but don't ignore it either. The kid has huge talent and huge potential and anyone who disputes that has an agenda. Can he carry the likes of Walcott, Giroud, Ramsey and Diaby every game? Why would we expect him to? Nobody could do that, not even Messi. Stick Messi in this Arsenal team and he'd have his off days too, because the shit we have could drag anyone down.

[Letters]

He wasn't brilliant - he was ordinary. So was Dawson. That's how ordinary defenders play in an organised system. You could have taken Merts and TV and after a year training with a team that organises the defending they'd be ordinary too. You could take the two spuds and stick them in our team and after a year they'd be a laughing stock. We don't defend. We are bigger than that.

Innit.

Our famous back 5 wasn't full of world class players (Dixon only got 22 caps for England, Winterburn only got 2, Bould only got 2.)
It was just a very well drilled unit.

[Power n Glory]

So a young kid on whose shoulders the fortunes of a billion quid club has been pinned has a bad day at the office and now it's time to slaughter him? If Wilshere isn't Messi then add every other player in the world to that list of failure (except for Bale who is better than Messi). Wilshere gets hyped by the press because he's English and we've had to put up with overhyped shit like Lampard and Gerrard for years - players who fail at every significant hurdle on the International stage. Believe the hype if you want but don't slaughter the kid because a game of such huge importance got to him.

He's also stepped on a pitch with Barcelona and outplayed the best in the business, again no reason for the hype but don't ignore it either. The kid has huge talent and huge potential and anyone who disputes that has an agenda. Can he carry the likes of Walcott, Giroud, Ramsey and Diaby every game? Why would we expect him to? Nobody could do that, not even Messi. Stick Messi in this Arsenal team and he'd have his off days too, because the shit we have could drag anyone down.

It's not slaughter. He had a bad game and it would be wrong to overlook it when everyone else gets a kick up the backside. Ramsey wasn't even that bad yesterday (when in the middle) and he's getting undue stick for this game. I don't think he slowed down the play yesterday. Wilshere was the one missing runs and delaying the pass. Can't really make exceptions when it's derby day.

[Power n Glory]

He wasn't brilliant - he was ordinary. So was Dawson. That's how ordinary defenders play in an organised system. You could have taken Merts and TV and after a year training with a team that organises the defending they'd be ordinary too. You could take the two spuds and stick them in our team and after a year they'd be a laughing stock. We don't defend. We are bigger than that.

Giroud is an easy striker to mark as well. You're more likely to be surprised by a dodgy first touch over anything else he's offering.

[LDG]

"We must fight now...."

Oh fuck off.

[Niall_Quinn]

"We must fight now...."

Oh fuck off.

I think you are overlooking the fact our energy levels were superb yesterday.

[Power n Glory]

"We must fight now...."

Oh fuck off.

Empty words and tiresome.

His Morpheus/Obi Wan approach to coaching is really pissing me off. There is more to football than spirit, determination, character, mental strength and the rest of the New Age nonsense he repeats game after game. He needs to get a strategy together and apply it to this team. We need organising. No more bollocks about not focusing on our opponents and allowing our players to express themselves on the pitch. We need this team drilled and organised. They need to know how to function as a unit on the pitch. I have no doubt that these guys want to win and are tired of being humiliated but they’re not going to get better without proper guidance and coaching.