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I want him to win us everything :d
It's ON!
Put PnG on the board !!! - for these "Wengerites" out there read the above carefully. When he & the board promised that the move would mean we'd compete at top level, they forgot to tell us the bit about "not for ten years though!!!".Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
I don't think they did. It was quite obvious we'd have to tighten our belts in the short term.
If we had to tighten our belts short term, then it would also be quite obvious that we couldn't compete short term - so they were lying. You can't have it both ways. If they said the move was to enable us to compete in a decade I would accept your view but they didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by GayPete
It was more the arrival of Abramovich and the other sugar daddies that forced us to tighten our belts to the level we had to.
Even with the stadium move in progress it still would have been us and the Mancs mainly competing for the title. We would have been able to retain our better players, finish higher in the league possibly winning a few along the way (definitely challenging at least) and not had our prime transfer targets stolen by outrageous bids and contract offers from sugar rich clubs.
As an additional benefit, wages and transfer fees wouldn't have been inflated to the ridiculous levels they are today. It was more this than the stadium move IMO that fucked us over the most - we were the main casualties of it. Had it not been for it, we would have earned a lot more through more prize money and the knock on benefit of better commercial earnings and had to spend less on wages and transfers.
Come on guys, it was pretty much all there in the public accounts every year. It's not like we even had to trawl through ourselves to find the truth of the matter! There were plenty of well-read, reliable Arsenal blogs out there who did all the donkey-work for us, and condensed it down to a few bullet points that you could browse over your morning cup of coffee (not to mention an army of former players, pundits, newspaper hacks and rival fans ramming it down our throats on an almost daily basis). Everyone knew.
And what's wrong with realigning our vision to be competing with Bayern Munich? Aren't they currently the best team in Europe, with arguably the best blueprint for how to run a top-level club? I can't think of too many better examples that we should be following...
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Originally Posted by I am invisible
Priiiidddddy much!
The emergence of Chelsea and then City changed the level of competition in the Prem but we just adopted the wrong strategy to compete with them. Project youth and the wage structure held us back. I know there has been a lot of talk about us being financially limited but it’s not as if we’ve done anything this season that we couldn’t have done 2/3 seasons ago. We spent £40m on one player and the rest were free transfers. I wouldn’t have been impossible for us to spend £25m to £30m on one key player each season would it?
Nothing wrong with it but don't you think they were saying that in 2003 about us. In a year when we were "Invincible" & playing some of the best football in Europe they won absolutely nothing. Since then they have changed their managers, adapted to new modern style of play, new training techniques & spent regularly every year by bringing in world class players without paying ridiculous money. Now ten years on we are talking about copying them, doesn't that simply prove that we in relation to competing with the best have actually gone backwards. Simply because we have a manager who will not change his methods that may well have been effective in early 2000's but are now well out of date especially his transfer policies.Quote:
Originally Posted by I am invisible
Get him out.
The only reason Wenger wants to stay is because he wishes to serve up more of the last 8 years. He gets paid like a champion while winning nothing. Blaming everything and everyone except himself. None of Kroenke's US teams have won anything since 2001. He is on a losing streak since rocking up here too. A non success oriented owner with a self indulgent manager. Perfect storm.
The longer we stick with Wenger the more we will miss out on great potential like the current Juve manager. ? Let him takes greatness elsewhere, if he dare
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Originally Posted by Globalgunner
smells
It's only smellz
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Originally Posted by LDG
Wenger :bow::bow:
Always rated him. :coffee:
yeh he's wonderful - just been played & passed off the pitch by a team that were a game away from non-leage when Wumger was last winning anything. 10 years on whose gone forward us or them?
Were we watching the same game, as I seem to recall that we won and are now 2 points clear on the top of the League. Was always going to be a difficult game, but we come home with 3 points in the bag.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dein-machine
At the end of the day, the points you take from the game is what matters. How many times has Arsenal played fancy football, only to draw or lose? Personally, I like this new talent of grinding out results when needed (and we can still win with pretty football at times also).
It's pretty obvious that you are dead set on Wenger to go. However, who do you think would be available to take the reigns that would provide the same attraction for Players as Wenger (remember, Ozil chose Arsenal because of Arsene)?
Classic wumming.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dein-machine
EDIT: Shit wumming.
Please not the "top of the league" shit - Southampton are 4th Ffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zerlathon
With the good players we already had & a shit load of money in the transfer window do you honestly think someone like Laudrup couldn't have given us a similar start this year. The difference would be that for a supposed top european club we wouldn't be playing with such a wafer thin squad when it comes to quality.
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Originally Posted by Dein-machine
Cripps/10
You mentioned him by name. :faint:Quote:
Originally Posted by GayPete
This, my signature which had that reference got deleted quietly :haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Who?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
CrispsQuote:
Originally Posted by GayPete
I like crisps.
Crisps :lol:
Awful potato-based snack.
Pringles/10
Sour Cream and Onion Pringles :bow:
Harsh, very harsh on Cripps.Quote:
Originally Posted by GayPete
Even he would be elated now we're top of the league.
Pringles :sick:.
Where are the Wenger out brigade right now? :lol:
Bit early but another month like this and we'l start to really look like champions in the making.
PL games cant come soon enough and all with so many players still to come back.
The idea of sacking wenger surely seems very silly and shortsighted.
I was one of the Gooners that was critical of Wenger. Many of us acted out of frustration and I feel that our criticism of Wenger acted as a catalyst for Arsene and the board to strengthen the team. The acquisition of Ozil could well have acted as a lightening rod for many of our players. We showed ambition by getting a world class player and writing a cheque for an unheard of + 40 million pounds. The players in turn started to perhaps believe even more in their respective abilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Ogg Monster
So, we are still here to push and cajole Wenger to strengthen even further so that we can heap scorn on the spuds, manure, chavski et al.
Early days still and I think it is late October into early November where we have a tricky run don't we? Still only 6 games gone in the league.
Dortmund
Palace
Chelsea
Liverpool
Dortmund
Man U
Southampton
That is a tricky run with the exception of Palace who don't seriously look like they can trouble us. Southampton have really impressed me though and have been good value for their good start so far. Things can change very quickly, which is not to say that I'm not positive (at this point in time), but we can still very much finish 5th and win nothing.
Regardless of the opposition, the funny part is looking ahead at the fixtures and thinking "Ah, fuck, we're at home".
Team needs to stand up and be counted during that run, if all our players haven't been burnt out at that point that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice
We have started very well but we have started well in seasons before. Only to perform badly in November recover then fall away again Feb/March until the title has gone when we win the last few games to make it close.
I think getting CL qualification sorted as soon as possible is key as we want to be able to focus on the league. Win next two home games and we are more or less there.
As has been said it is way to early to say a corner has been turned.
What I like about this team is that, so far they are quietly getting the needed results, even tho they are no where near the finished article. There's a lot more to come from this team, the main thing is getting players back from injuries, and keeping them healthy.
We won't really see the best out of Ozil, without Carzorla and Theo, I think those two, especially Carzorla will be so important to Ozil. Cause a player with the quality of Santi, will immediately be on the same wave length as Ozil.
This coming month and half will tell us, what this team is capable off. I was really nervous about Swansea, it was our first real test, and for most part I was happy with what I saw. Wenger is doing an understanding job so far.
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Originally Posted by Josh_Gooner