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    I want him to win us everything

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    It's ON!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    The originally move from Highbury to the Emirates was for the purpose of competing with clubs like Man Utd and Real Madrid. Not staying in the Top 4. Gazidis has come back out to realign that vision when speaking about Bayern and Dortmund. Some fans are getting it twisted.
    Put PnG on the board !!! - for these "Wengerites" out there read the above carefully. When he & the board promised that the move would mean we'd compete at top level, they forgot to tell us the bit about "not for ten years though!!!".

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    I don't think they did. It was quite obvious we'd have to tighten our belts in the short term.
    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GayPete View Post
    I don't think they did. It was quite obvious we'd have to tighten our belts in the short term.
    If we had to tighten our belts short term, then it would also be quite obvious that we couldn't compete short term - so they were lying. You can't have it both ways. If they said the move was to enable us to compete in a decade I would accept your view but they didn't.

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    It was more the arrival of Abramovich and the other sugar daddies that forced us to tighten our belts to the level we had to.

    Even with the stadium move in progress it still would have been us and the Mancs mainly competing for the title. We would have been able to retain our better players, finish higher in the league possibly winning a few along the way (definitely challenging at least) and not had our prime transfer targets stolen by outrageous bids and contract offers from sugar rich clubs.

    As an additional benefit, wages and transfer fees wouldn't have been inflated to the ridiculous levels they are today. It was more this than the stadium move IMO that fucked us over the most - we were the main casualties of it. Had it not been for it, we would have earned a lot more through more prize money and the knock on benefit of better commercial earnings and had to spend less on wages and transfers.

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    Come on guys, it was pretty much all there in the public accounts every year. It's not like we even had to trawl through ourselves to find the truth of the matter! There were plenty of well-read, reliable Arsenal blogs out there who did all the donkey-work for us, and condensed it down to a few bullet points that you could browse over your morning cup of coffee (not to mention an army of former players, pundits, newspaper hacks and rival fans ramming it down our throats on an almost daily basis). Everyone knew.

    And what's wrong with realigning our vision to be competing with Bayern Munich? Aren't they currently the best team in Europe, with arguably the best blueprint for how to run a top-level club? I can't think of too many better examples that we should be following...

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    Quote Originally Posted by I am invisible View Post
    Come on guys, it was pretty much all there in the public accounts every year. It's not like we even had to trawl through ourselves to find the truth of the matter! There were plenty of well-read, reliable Arsenal blogs out there who did all the donkey-work for us, and condensed it down to a few bullet points that you could browse over your morning cup of coffee (not to mention an army of former players, pundits, newspaper hacks and rival fans ramming it down our throats on an almost daily basis). Everyone knew.

    And what's wrong with realigning our vision to be competing with Bayern Munich? Aren't they currently the best team in Europe, with arguably the best blueprint for how to run a top-level club? I can't think of too many better examples that we should be following...


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    The emergence of Chelsea and then City changed the level of competition in the Prem but we just adopted the wrong strategy to compete with them. Project youth and the wage structure held us back. I know there has been a lot of talk about us being financially limited but it’s not as if we’ve done anything this season that we couldn’t have done 2/3 seasons ago. We spent £40m on one player and the rest were free transfers. I wouldn’t have been impossible for us to spend £25m to £30m on one key player each season would it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by I am invisible View Post
    Come on guys, it was pretty much all there in the public accounts every year. It's not like we even had to trawl through ourselves to find the truth of the matter! There were plenty of well-read, reliable Arsenal blogs out there who did all the donkey-work for us, and condensed it down to a few bullet points that you could browse over your morning cup of coffee (not to mention an army of former players, pundits, newspaper hacks and rival fans ramming it down our throats on an almost daily basis). Everyone knew.

    And what's wrong with realigning our vision to be competing with Bayern Munich? Aren't they currently the best team in Europe, with arguably the best blueprint for how to run a top-level club? I can't think of too many better examples that we should be following...
    Nothing wrong with it but don't you think they were saying that in 2003 about us. In a year when we were "Invincible" & playing some of the best football in Europe they won absolutely nothing. Since then they have changed their managers, adapted to new modern style of play, new training techniques & spent regularly every year by bringing in world class players without paying ridiculous money. Now ten years on we are talking about copying them, doesn't that simply prove that we in relation to competing with the best have actually gone backwards. Simply because we have a manager who will not change his methods that may well have been effective in early 2000's but are now well out of date especially his transfer policies.
    Get him out.

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