Well the media seem to think that the spuds have got the better player in Simon’s (who Chelsea passed on signing)
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Well the media seem to think that the spuds have got the better player in Simon’s (who Chelsea passed on signing)
Kiwior wanted to play first team football regularly, something we couldn't gaurantee him, therefore a sale was necessary
We need strength in depth in defence, Gabriel can't play every game and Hincapie will give us that plus will have good resale value
= good business :good:
The 'ammers are interested in buying Vieira apparently - would be a great deal for them if they did... :whistle:
Well seeing as they've probably still got a bit of our £100m Rice money, they should be willing to pay £40m ......and who knows, maybe Arteta finally makes a profit from a player he has brought in :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac76
Isak is finally off to Liverpool for a British record 130m.
They’re also likely to sign Guehi too.
:wacko:
We obviously need another forward; I can't quite see how it fits together. We need Guehi as well, almost moreso. If they both do happen then :blink: but it's about time FSG properly released the handbrake.
This just makes the result, and more importantly the performance yesterday hurt more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
The next time we face Liverpool, they'll be properly equipped and have a proper rhythm while we'll be at home with added pressure.
Its really a shame that in our 3rd game against an actual rival (I'm adding Spurs pre season), we couldn't muster a performance that made us look like proper heavyweights.
Like they analysed yesterday, only Sunderland has created less chances than us this season from open play..... we clearly have to embrace the Champagne Stoke tag as it will be repeated more and more often.
Vieira and Lokonga are expected to move to Hamburg.
Viera is a loan with an option to buy and Lokonga is a permanent transfer.
A pittance in terms of money coming back in but at least they’re gone…for now.
It takes a decade of failure for this Arsenal management to realise the manager is a dud. Just as they did with Wenger. 4 more years to go. Hang in there chaps.
Ten Haag has been sacked by Leverkusen after just 2 games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Globalgunner
I really wonder why they even recruited him in the first place, I mean to go from an Alonso team to a Ten Haag contraption is like AW's quote of "caviar to sausages" :lol:
Glad they acted fast, and he becomes the 3rd ex Man U manager sacked in a week.
But yes you are right, our owners also need to wake up, grow a pair, and demand they at least get what they are paying for.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/a...s/cd7y19095rno
Nelson loaned to Brentford with an option to buy.
An option they’ll never take up of course but at least that’s another bum off the books for a year.
Well, while we keep failing to sell or move players on for decent amounts, Chelsea are getting £70m for Jackson from Bayern.
Honestly I am a bit speechless.
And if we’d signed Jackson for even half that amount you’d be apoplecticQuote:
Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE
I don’t know what’s going on for Bayern that they’d even consider such a move. I think there’s something clearly dodgy going on with Chelsea and their player sales.
They are offering to pay more for him than they did for Luiz Diaz, that’s suspect
At least we cant blame this on the manager. Bayern recruitment is done by the executives, so tweety bird is not at fault. Anyways Bayern could stack a team full of 11 Kai Havertz`s and still walk the leagueQuote:
Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE
Sambi sold to Hamburg for... £2.5m
champagne all round
I remember the fa cup tie against Forest three years ago when Arteta hauled Lokonga off and thought it was massively harsh but crikey…I’m sorry but he’s terrible. I remember the following year against Oxford United he was being bullied and outplayed by what was then league one players.
Watching their game against St Pauli on Friday id say Hamburg need all the help they can get, but they don’t need that kind of help :lol:
Fulham have also paid them 22m for Tyrique George, a player with 9 PL appearances to his name.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
I know they’ve got these guys on massive contracts to future proof their value but still something is a bit off.
Signing Jackson wasn't my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
Not long ago Bayern were interested in a Trossard, why couldn't that go further? Or why couldn't we drum up interest in Nelson who had a great loan spell at Hoffenheim at a point in time?
I won't even bother mentioning the strong Martinelli interest they showed earlier as that is clearly going to forever haunt us , especially when we do get rid of him for a pittance.
I like this Tyrique George a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Pretty sure Chelsea are going to regret getting rid of him.
Agree about Martinelli. Prime time to sell him was this summer, Madueke and Eze have come in so he should have been moved on really. There’s an art to selling but it also requires some foresight which we lack in spotting when there’s a dip.Quote:
Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE
Guehi deal collapses.
Finally some good news today as that means their weakness can still be exploited by decent managers who aren't pussies :good:
Liverpool will probably just sign him in January anyway or even for free next summer.
45m for us to shell out next year for Hincapie.
Another signing that will probably be off in 2 years time for a 10th of what we acquired him for.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...
Hopefully the damage would have been done before Christmas....one has to take these little wins since a particular Spaniard has decided to take on the role of the Grinch and steal our joy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Were we really expecting Guehi to be the difference between Liverpool being a defensive car crash or not
If we played with any pace and Martinelli wasn’t like one of those abused rescue dogs that keeps its head down constantly (I don’t know why I used this metaphor, makes me sad as I love dogs) we’d have left Van Dijk looking like Pascal Cygan as we have in the past.
Let them sign him in January. They will win the league anyway because we have a control freak sociopath as coach
Sterling is sticking around at Chelsea.
300k a week to turn up and train with the reserves.
Footballers eh, what a life.
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Really sad what he allowed his career to turn into.
Allowed?Quote:
Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE
I don’t think he had any choice in the matter, his legs have gone
I don't think he had any serious injury, or did he??Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
I believe he just let himself go and really isn't interested in competing anymore.
I mean it looked that way when he was with us and couldn't beat anyone properly without fouling them.
Zinchenko has been loaned to Forest. :wave:
Edu doing us a favour there.
Not sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Would have liked to have him as an option to play central midfield.
Just imagine watching a match with Merino and Norgaard manning the middle....we've got a lot of boring football to look forward to this season.
We’ve got MLS for that hybrid role now.
I did really like the Zinchenko signing 3 years ago and I think it did contribute to raising our level but the team evolved beyond him so quickly.
Good luck to him at Forest. Always seemed like a top pro and a good person to have around the club.
Terrible defender it has to be said though. :lol:
Berta did a great job in the transfer window and pulled off a few good exits yesterday when it seemed we were stuck with the duds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
All we need is a new manager that wants to play football.
Unconfirmed reports are saying we got 10m for Lokonga, that would be the only bit of business I could praise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chippy
It’s a strange one, on one hand I don’t think we should emulate Chelsea because it’s probably best we keep our business dealings legitimate just in case the footballing authorities one day decide to take a serious stand against dodgy practices and corruption.
On the other hand, Kiwior I think had a back end of last season that should have netted us 30-40 million for him. Ok he didn’t want to stay in England but there are both German and Italian clubs that could have coughed up money near that amount. And unlike Zinchenko I doubt it was about the wages either.
Whilst European clubs don’t have the spending power of the premier league neither are they as impoverished as is stated. It would be interesting to know how much we touted Kiwior around if we no longer wanted him. Did we no longer want him, were we keeping him to the last moment until we secured this Hincapie chap.
Definitely feel like we could have got more for Kiwior. Sounds like he was quite set on Porto and we facilitated that for him rather than tout him around. Nice guys, us.Quote:
Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn
Palace were meant to be interested earlier in the window but the Guehi saga dragged on.
Think this is hugely unlikely given that Hamburg have rarely spent more than 10m on a player. They are a low budget club and aren’t going to be spending near record money on a deadbeat. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE
Whatever we got for him it’s peanuts but that’s probably all he’s worth anyway.
Still feel Liverpool are making a big mistake supercharging their attack alone, they won't meet sissys like us often, especially when the CL starts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
Though I guess the plus side is their fans have got entertaining basketball scores to look forward to.
For me this has to be a combination of his big wages (£180K pw), and the manager's continued faith in him. For me, Martinelli encapsulates some of our issues with transfer business. We seem to be overly loyal to some players and write off others too quickly. The former we probably overpay, and seem almost sentimental in not cashing in when they have real value. The latter we bench and watch their value plummet when it is obvious they have fallen out of favour.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc Overmars
I think that for too long, Martinelli has been picked more because of his tracking back than his proficiency in his principal role. It's a real shame because 2/3 years ago he was considered to have Saka potential. But the fact we have been so lacking down the left (chopping and changing at LB and not finding an effective option at left mid), and what appears to be a lack of footballing intelligence (Martinelli seems to be a player who works on instinct who wilts when he thinks too much) seems to have destroyed his confidence and seen his performances plummet. Since the beginning of 2024 it has seemed obvious that he does not take the right decisions when near to goal, and is not a finisher. This should have been noted by the club, and an exit strategy (including a replacement) finessed. Instead, we are now left with a player who could almost be considered deadwood (given the arrivals of Madueke and Eze and the Trossard renewal), taking up a squad place and being paid wages that are disproportionate to his value.
Can he be an impact sub? Could his decline be addressed by trying him up front? Our problem now I feel is that our manager is not flexible enough to try something different that might maintain his value.