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Thread: Summer Transfers 2025 Missed Opportunities and Regrets

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    Zinchenko has been loaned to Forest.

    Edu doing us a favour there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Zinchenko has been loaned to Forest.

    Edu doing us a favour there.
    Not sure.

    Would have liked to have him as an option to play central midfield.

    Just imagine watching a match with Merino and Norgaard manning the middle....we've got a lot of boring football to look forward to this season.

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    We’ve got MLS for that hybrid role now.

    I did really like the Zinchenko signing 3 years ago and I think it did contribute to raising our level but the team evolved beyond him so quickly.

    Good luck to him at Forest. Always seemed like a top pro and a good person to have around the club.

    Terrible defender it has to be said though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Zinchenko has been loaned to Forest.

    Edu doing us a favour there.
    Berta did a great job in the transfer window and pulled off a few good exits yesterday when it seemed we were stuck with the duds.

    All we need is a new manager that wants to play football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippy View Post
    Berta did a great job in the transfer window and pulled off a few good exits yesterday when it seemed we were stuck with the duds.

    All we need is a new manager that wants to play football.
    Unconfirmed reports are saying we got 10m for Lokonga, that would be the only bit of business I could praise.

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    It’s a strange one, on one hand I don’t think we should emulate Chelsea because it’s probably best we keep our business dealings legitimate just in case the footballing authorities one day decide to take a serious stand against dodgy practices and corruption.

    On the other hand, Kiwior I think had a back end of last season that should have netted us 30-40 million for him. Ok he didn’t want to stay in England but there are both German and Italian clubs that could have coughed up money near that amount. And unlike Zinchenko I doubt it was about the wages either.

    Whilst European clubs don’t have the spending power of the premier league neither are they as impoverished as is stated. It would be interesting to know how much we touted Kiwior around if we no longer wanted him. Did we no longer want him, were we keeping him to the last moment until we secured this Hincapie chap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    It’s a strange one, on one hand I don’t think we should emulate Chelsea because it’s probably best we keep our business dealings legitimate just in case the footballing authorities one day decide to take a serious stand against dodgy practices and corruption.

    On the other hand, Kiwior I think had a back end of last season that should have netted us 30-40 million for him. Ok he didn’t want to stay in England but there are both German and Italian clubs that could have coughed up money near that amount. And unlike Zinchenko I doubt it was about the wages either.

    Whilst European clubs don’t have the spending power of the premier league neither are they as impoverished as is stated. It would be interesting to know how much we touted Kiwior around if we no longer wanted him. Did we no longer want him, were we keeping him to the last moment until we secured this Hincapie chap.
    Definitely feel like we could have got more for Kiwior. Sounds like he was quite set on Porto and we facilitated that for him rather than tout him around. Nice guys, us.

    Palace were meant to be interested earlier in the window but the Guehi saga dragged on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21_GOONER_SALUTE View Post
    Unconfirmed reports are saying we got 10m for Lokonga, that would be the only bit of business I could praise.
    Think this is hugely unlikely given that Hamburg have rarely spent more than 10m on a player. They are a low budget club and aren’t going to be spending near record money on a deadbeat.

    Whatever we got for him it’s peanuts but that’s probably all he’s worth anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Definitely feel like we could have got more for Kiwior. Sounds like he was quite set on Porto and we facilitated that for him rather than tout him around. Nice guys, us.

    Palace were meant to be interested earlier in the window but the Guehi saga dragged on.
    Still feel Liverpool are making a big mistake supercharging their attack alone, they won't meet sissys like us often, especially when the CL starts.

    Though I guess the plus side is their fans have got entertaining basketball scores to look forward to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Agree about Martinelli. Prime time to sell him was this summer, Madueke and Eze have come in so he should have been moved on really. There’s an art to selling but it also requires some foresight which we lack in spotting when there’s a dip.
    For me this has to be a combination of his big wages (£180K pw), and the manager's continued faith in him. For me, Martinelli encapsulates some of our issues with transfer business. We seem to be overly loyal to some players and write off others too quickly. The former we probably overpay, and seem almost sentimental in not cashing in when they have real value. The latter we bench and watch their value plummet when it is obvious they have fallen out of favour.


    I think that for too long, Martinelli has been picked more because of his tracking back than his proficiency in his principal role. It's a real shame because 2/3 years ago he was considered to have Saka potential. But the fact we have been so lacking down the left (chopping and changing at LB and not finding an effective option at left mid), and what appears to be a lack of footballing intelligence (Martinelli seems to be a player who works on instinct who wilts when he thinks too much) seems to have destroyed his confidence and seen his performances plummet. Since the beginning of 2024 it has seemed obvious that he does not take the right decisions when near to goal, and is not a finisher. This should have been noted by the club, and an exit strategy (including a replacement) finessed. Instead, we are now left with a player who could almost be considered deadwood (given the arrivals of Madueke and Eze and the Trossard renewal), taking up a squad place and being paid wages that are disproportionate to his value.


    Can he be an impact sub? Could his decline be addressed by trying him up front? Our problem now I feel is that our manager is not flexible enough to try something different that might maintain his value.
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