Post match v Southampton

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Originally Posted by Goonermerree

We've won two trophies in eleven years, who are we to say that this cup is meaningless, with bigger fish to fry. We don't even have a frying pan!

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Or two in 3 years. #glasshalffull.

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Originally Posted by Globalgunner

Yes they did. They played to the style and methods that we are very used to. They played the same way the senior team plays. The only difference is that Sanchez was not playing to do what others cannot seem to do. Put the ball in the net. We are a team who even with Sanchez has averaged 3 shots (i guess) in each game. This is what we do. Players built and trained for meaningless possession. I can confidently predict that we will not win any game that Sanchez does not play in.

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Would you be satisfied with just the league cup this year?

My bugbear is that there seems to be no forensic analysis of defeats at this club, no introspection, no root and branch review of each failed season. The good ship Arsenal just keeps sailing on. The players out against Southampton should have easily been able to give them a good game but couldnt. They play to instructions. Instructions that take all the spontaneity out of players. Great players become good and good players become bang average at this club. It takes a player of exceptional ability like Sanchez to bail us out each season. Even Wengers macabre methods cannot obfuscate the innate quality of a player like Sanchez who will always do what comes natural

If you look back to when we left Highbury, we have always been blessed with at least 1 exceptional player to haul our asses to CL qualification. Henry, RVP, Fabregas and now Sanchez. How long will this continue, because even having 6 WC players has not been able to see us win the CL and 1 or 2 has not been good enough to see us win the PL.

We see the same thing every season and pretend its new this year because the calender says so. By design or lack of effort we have not won the EFL cup under Wenger. Realistically it is the only cup we could have challenged for this season. Now it is gone.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Would you be satisfied with just the league cup this year?

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I'd be satisfied with tucking it away in the trophy cabinet as a stepping stone to bigger things. What I'm not satisfied with is treating the competition with contempt, blowing it off and all in the name of saving up for something we never achieve anyway. We aren't winning a title unless every last club around us collapses and we can forget the CL. Besides, Wenger has never won this cup. You'd think he'd want to add it to the collection before he leaves the club. In 3, 6, 9, 30 years.

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Originally Posted by Noel_Quinn

I'd be satisfied with tucking it away in the trophy cabinet as a stepping stone to bigger things. What I'm not satisfied with is treating the competition with contempt, blowing it off and all in the name of saving up for something we never achieve anyway. We aren't winning a title unless every last club around us collapses and we can forget the CL. Besides, Wenger has never won this cup. You'd think he'd want to add it to the collection before he leaves the club. In 3, 6, 9, 30 years.

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Be honest. Does winning that cup change your perspective on Wenger? Would it instill more belief in us going on to win bigger things? I highly doubt that anything would change from the fans or players. I can't see Ozil or Sanchez looking to extend their contract if we won that trophy and I don't believe in the springboard effect with this team. We won two FA Cups back to back and with the easiest season ahead of us, still fluffed our lines allowing Leicester to scoop the league title. It's win or bust for us. The baby steps just won't cut it anymore. No more stepping stones.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Be honest. Does winning that cup change your perspective on Wenger? Would it instill more belief in us going on to win bigger things? I highly doubt that anything would change from the fans or players. I can't see Ozil or Sanchez looking to extend their contract if we won that trophy and I don't believe in the springboard effect with this team. We won two FA Cups back to back and with the easiest season ahead of us, still fluffed our lines allowing Leicester to scoop the league title. It's win or bust for us. The baby steps just won't cut it anymore. No more stepping stones.

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No way would it change my perspective on Wenger, I'm at the stage now where that perspective is not going to change.