Luis Suarez thread

£40-50 million now is like £20-30 million before. More money in the game, means prices go up but we're earning more in the process. I don't see why an arbritary figure should make much difference. In any case, the point is that under Wenger we have always gone down the route of not spending the big sum on one player but buying on multiple positions of roughly the same quality/price. It's hard to say it has particularly helped us in doing so!

Of course he is a complete fruitloop and the threat of further indiscretions is there but if you're going to compare him to Cantona then don't forget the (postive) effect Cantona had on the team. It's crazy that he was signed for just over a million though. As I said before, we'd take Vieira back in an instant and he was a red card liability, every season.

The third paragraph is linked to the first really, we do have more money coming in now, we should be able to afford at least one high price player and another better than decent. I do like Shaqiri but he did barely play for Bayern Munich last season and we already have a surfeit of players like him (good to very good). He was very good when I saw him for Basel. You never try and you never know is exactly right and that's why we've opted for Suarez, which seemed rather unlikely in May. Lewandowski does have more facets to his game than most strikers but again, he doesn't have that dribbling ability like Suarez does.

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Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory

Ah, crap! He's gonna play Suarez on the flanks isn't he? :doh:

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Hence why we've waved goodbye to Gervinho. :wave:

Wherever Suarez plays he's going to go out to the right flank anyway. He'll take half of his shots from the right byline, and the other half from the halfway line.

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Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost...

£40-50 million now is like £20-30 million before. More money in the game, means prices go up but we're earning more in the process. I don't see why an arbritary figure should make much difference. In any case, the point is that under Wenger we have always gone down the route of not spending the big sum on one player but buying on multiple positions of roughly the same quality/price. It's hard to say it has particularly helped us in doing so!

Of course he is a complete fruitloop and the threat of further indiscretions is there but if you're going to compare him to Cantona then don't forget the (postive) effect Cantona had on the team. It's crazy that he was signed for just over a million though. As I said before, we'd take Vieira back in an instant and he was a red card liability, every season.

The third paragraph is linked to the first really, we do have more money coming in now, we should be able to afford at least one high price player and another better than decent. I do like Shaqiri but he did barely play for Bayern Munich last season and we already have a surfeit of players like him (good to very good). He was very good when I saw him for Basel. You never try and you never know is exactly right and that's why we've opted for Suarez, which seemed rather unlikely in May. Lewandowski does have more facets to his game than most strikers but again, he doesn't have that dribbling ability like Suarez does.

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I still think you can find top quality without paying that much, it's only this summer we're getting prices like this but it's also because the player in question just isn't for sale in reality and has 3 years left on his contract.

Suarez will never be a Cantona, he's not a player with that kind of presence ability, he's very good but not amongst the very best. As for Vieira, yes he did get suspended but he's not on the same scale as Suarez, Suarez is more like Barton in addition Vieira brought much more than just his game to the table, his leadership was another facet again Suarez will never be in that class.


We can afford them yes, but I think if we buy one that's our transfer budget all gone, this bothers me as one player really is nowhere near enough. Shaquiri is excellent and since he hasn't played much he'd be available at a reasonable price, there's also players like Gourcuff who would be worth a gamble and of course our old friend Fellaini.

The whole Suarez thing is odd and doesn't sit right with me, something about this just doesn't seem real, nothing is agreed of course meaning we may still end up with nothing but are still wasting valuable time that could be spent trying to sign other players.

Suarez was the best striker in England last season.

I'd say that puts him amongst the best

the only reason we are signing suarez is goals. thats it. we arent looking at him to be a leader, we arent looking at him to go home and meets the players mothers, we are looking at him to score goals. so saying viera brings more then just his game is totally irrelevant, we have leaders for that right now, we just need suarez to put the ball in the net.

hes a world class striker, thats what we have been crying out for since van persie left.

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Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga

I still think you can find top quality without paying that much, it's only this summer we're getting prices like this but it's also because the player in question just isn't for sale in reality and has 3 years left on his contract.

Suarez will never be a Cantona, he's not a player with that kind of presence ability, he's very good but not amongst the very best. As for Vieira, yes he did get suspended but he's not on the same scale as Suarez, Suarez is more like Barton in addition Vieira brought much more than just his game to the table, his leadership was another facet again Suarez will never be in that class.


We can afford them yes, but I think if we buy one that's our transfer budget all gone, this bothers me as one player really is nowhere near enough. Shaquiri is excellent and since he hasn't played much he'd be available at a reasonable price, there's also players like Gourcuff who would be worth a gamble and of course our old friend Fellaini.

The whole Suarez thing is odd and doesn't sit right with me, something about this just doesn't seem real, nothing is agreed of course meaning we may still end up with nothing but are still wasting valuable time that could be spent trying to sign other players.

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Off the top of my head, I can think of a few players who would definitely add value to our team compared to our dross. Cesar, Michu, Fellaini, Diego Lopez(?)- the same dude who liverpool want to sign. Their combined fee would be in the range of 50-60 million quid. I know I'd rather have that compared to just Suarez.
HOWEVER if Wenger is going to splash on Suarez and bring in another 2-3 top players, who am I to complain? I just think that expecting something like that is like expecting to see a unicorn in real life.

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Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga

I still think you can find top quality without paying that much, it's only this summer we're getting prices like this but it's also because the player in question just isn't for sale in reality and has 3 years left on his contract.

Suarez will never be a Cantona, he's not a player with that kind of presence ability, he's very good but not amongst the very best. As for Vieira, yes he did get suspended but he's not on the same scale as Suarez, Suarez is more like Barton in addition Vieira brought much more than just his game to the table, his leadership was another facet again Suarez will never be in that class.


We can afford them yes, but I think if we buy one that's our transfer budget all gone, this bothers me as one player really is nowhere near enough. Shaquiri is excellent and since he hasn't played much he'd be available at a reasonable price, there's also players like Gourcuff who would be worth a gamble and of course our old friend Fellaini.

The whole Suarez thing is odd and doesn't sit right with me, something about this just doesn't seem real, nothing is agreed of course meaning we may still end up with nothing but are still wasting valuable time that could be spent trying to sign other players.

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He's going for that money because that's what the best forwards go for. Falcao, Cavani and Neymar have all gone for that and obviously Bale is going to be ridiculous.

I think you're missing the point about Cantona and Vieira, I am not comparing their ability as players - Vieira could never score goals in the way Suarez can, Cantona would never score 30 goals or more in a season but that's irrelevant and nonsensical; what I was saying is that their influence and ability for a team can overrirde whatever misdemeanours they may do during the season.

I think the time has come for us to stop buying good to potentially very good players personally. We need more than that if we want us to move away from only achieving third or fourth place with no hope in anything else.

I think now is the time to up the bid. Slap in a bid of £45m and see what happens. The fans are turning now and are saying they're not fussed if he leaves. This takes some pressure off the manager and board. They should really sell him now so they have time to re-invest the money.

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Originally Posted by Grebbo

I think now is the time to up the bid. Slap in a bid of £45m and see what happens. The fans are turning now and are saying they're not fussed if he leaves. This takes some pressure off the manager and board. They should really sell him now so they have time to re-invest the money.

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Caught offside were saying earlier we are goin upto 47.5 mil, but thats caught off side ha ha. How those useless excuses for journalists are in the know i'll never know.